Should Germany have been blamed for World War I? |
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 Apr 4 2009, 09:06 PM
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Do you all think that Germany should have been blamed for the FIRST (1) World War? Why?
This post has been edited by mipadi: Apr 5 2009, 08:32 AM
Reason for edit: Edited title - no need for an ambiguous, mysterious title
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Apr 4 2009, 09:13 PM
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No. Gravrilo Princep should be blamed. Research him a bit and you'll find out why.
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Apr 4 2009, 09:16 PM
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Germany shouldn't took full blame. USA has flaws too.
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Apr 4 2009, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(Beenly @ Apr 4 2009, 08:16 PM)  Germany shouldn't took full blame. USA has flaws too. But the US didn't have anything to do with the war until towards the end. |
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Apr 4 2009, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 09:18 PM) But the US didn't have anything to do with the war until towards the end. Exactly. The us just assisted the British. I think they sould take full blame. WHo else could have done anything?! They were the ones who invaded belguim and started the war. |
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Apr 4 2009, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Apr 4 2009, 08:32 PM) Exactly. The us just assisted the British. I think they sould take full blame. WHo else could have done anything?! They were the ones who invaded belguim and started the war. Austria-Hungary was the cause of the war. I don't know what history class you're taking, but it's not right. |
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Apr 4 2009, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:35 PM) Austria-Hungary was the cause of the war. I don't know what history class you're taking, but it's not right. I agree. But imo, if it wasn't for Germany's instigations between austira-hungary and serbia, their disregard for other countries' well being and safety, and their unrestricted submarine warfare, the war wouldn't have involved so many nations to even be considered a "World War." |
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Apr 4 2009, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Apr 4 2009, 08:39 PM) I agree. But imo, if it wasn't for Germany's instigations between austira-hungary and serbia, their disregard for other countries' well being and safety, and their unrestricted submarine warfare, the war wouldn't have involved so many nations to even be considered a "World War." I agree. Germany didn't start it, but they definitely didn't help anybody. It would have stayed one of Europe's many little outbreaks if Germany wasn't such a dick about the whole thing. |
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Apr 4 2009, 10:19 PM
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I don't think they should be blamed, nor do I thin they should have been punished as much as they were. Maybe if they weren't ordered to pay for the reconstruction of the allies then they would have never been desperate enough to put Hitler to power. Thus evading another world war.
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Apr 4 2009, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 09:13 PM) No. Gravrilo Princep should be blamed. Research him a bit and you'll find out why. I'm surprised you didn't say Kaiser Wilhelm instead. |
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Apr 5 2009, 01:07 AM
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So if you're lonely
You know I'm here waiting for you I'm just a cross-hair I'm just a shot away from you And if you leave here You leave me broken shattered, I lie I'm just a cross-hair I'm just a shot,then we can die I know I won't be leaving here With you |
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Apr 5 2009, 01:22 AM
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^ I had to think about that one for a good 2 minutes haha
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Apr 8 2009, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 4 2009, 11:51 PM) I'm surprised you didn't say Kaiser Wilhelm instead. He was pretty manipulative in seeking vengeance, but I wouldn't blame him entirely. |
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Apr 9 2009, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 8 2009, 10:40 AM) He was pretty manipulative in seeking vengeance, but I wouldn't blame him entirely. I wouldn't entirely blame one person, but I brought him up for a couple of reasons.- It's no secret that he wanted Germany to be viewed as a powerful country, but I think it's tough to say whether or not he wanted to achieve this with or without conflict. I'd like to say that he wanted to make Germany a world power without conflict, but then I'd have no way to explain why he worked to increase and mobilize the German military. For the record, I would not want to actually be able to say that. - He urged Austria-Hungary to attack Serbia as a way of revenge for the assassination of the archduke, which resulted in Britain, France, and Russia joining the war. - He simply did not know how to control the military that he built up. I suppose one could argue that this helped the allied countries. - He left Germany in a desperate state which lead to the rise of Hitler (who Wilhelm actively supported, even though Hitler was angry at him for "failing" Germany) and we all know what happened when Hitler didn't get into art school... |
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Apr 10 2009, 05:32 AM
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no i blame chuck norris for sleeping during this time when he could've stopped
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Apr 10 2009, 09:12 AM
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Why do I feel like half the people in this thread have never taken a history class?
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Apr 26 2009, 02:31 PM
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Nah.. just white people
jk (semi serious... maybe) |
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Apr 26 2009, 04:35 PM
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DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
 I'm white and German. Ooh, scary.
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Apr 26 2009, 04:40 PM
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me too broski, name when immigrants came over was johanson/von stauff or something liek that/hesse and im sure a few others, i just don't know them :]
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Apr 26 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 26 2009, 05:35 PM) I'm white and German. Ooh, scary.Damn we can't have children together, sorry. 
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Apr 26 2009, 04:56 PM
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DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
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 Take it back! ewwwwwwQUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 26 2009, 04:40 PM) me too broski, name when immigrants came over was johanson/von stauff or something liek that/hesse and im sure a few others, i just don't know them :] stauf=accumulating, haha, from accumulating? At least those names don't have a lot of letters in them. My last name has 13 :(
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Apr 26 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 26 2009, 05:56 PM) ^ Take it back! ewwwwwwstauf=accumulating, haha, from accumulating? At least those names don't have a lot of letters in them. My last name has 13 :( I will not! 
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