Master Debater Options

[Tung]

Debate about who is the better debater on cB.

Top Choices
- Nate (NoSex)
- Steven
- Kryogenix
- Fae (Spirited Away)
- Josh (Uronacid)
- Sammi (ersatz)
- Nicki (paperplane)
- JC (brooklyneast05)
- Tamacracker
- Brandon
- Podo (monster)
- Sumiaki

State the pros and cons, and give your side, as to who distinguish themselves out of all the rest. Why is __ better than __.

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[EddieV]

This topic is sorta debatable because of biased opinions. I mean I agree with a lot of things Tamacracker says however I don't like his approach towards it.

[NoSex]

This topic is sorta debatable because of biased opinions. I mean I agree with a lot of things Tamacracker says however I don't like his approach towards it.

Well, debate is often less about what you say and more about how you say it. The powers of persuasion, unfortunately, are not slaves to reality. But, that's why you have to have competent contributors and detractors... without all of us yelling at one another, this wouldn't be half as fun, interesting, insightful, or rewarding.

[*Steven*]

shut the f**k up nate go suck more liberal cock you douchebag

[illriginal]

Well, debate is often less about what you say and more about how you say it. The powers of persuasion, unfortunately, are not slaves to reality. But, that's why you have to have competent contributors and detractors... without all of us yelling at one another, this wouldn't be half as fun, interesting, insightful, or rewarding.

Nailed it on the money.

Sucks that if someone tells truth in a debate all it takes is a curse word to screw it up. And I notice with some of the debates here on this forum, they almost become laughable. They fall off topic, they become flaming arguments, it becomes too personal, and people generally misinterpret things. I don't like debating with people who put words in my mouth or twist what I say, or get on a whole different level than needs be.

And most of all, I dislike debating with females (no offense, no woman-hater)... females tend to have all those attributes that I've mentioned, and those are the types of attributes that ruin the fundamentals of debates. And we all know that men and women think completely differently than each other.

[Simba]

This topic is sorta debatable because of biased opinions. I mean I agree with a lot of things Tamacracker says however I don't like his approach towards it.

I'd be inclined to agree...

I really haven't been here enough anymore, huh. Who's Sumiaki?

[EddieV]

In other things, I don't agree with anything NoSex says, but his approach is slightly better.

[*paperplane*]

Nailed it on the money.

Sucks that if someone tells truth in a debate all it takes is a curse word to screw it up. And I notice with some of the debates here on this forum, they almost become laughable. They fall off topic, they become flaming arguments, it becomes too personal, and people generally misinterpret things. I don't like debating with people who put words in my mouth or twist what I say, or get on a whole different level than needs be.

And most of all, I dislike debating with females (no offense, no woman-hater)... females tend to have all those attributes that I've mentioned, and those are the types of attributes that ruin the fundamentals of debates. And we all know that men and women think completely differently than each other.

You're a f**king idiot.

I say that not because I'm a woman, but because I think ad hominem arguments are awesome because I'm a woman. Duh.

[illriginal]

You're a f**king idiot.

I say that not because I'm a woman, but because I think ad hominem arguments are awesome because I'm a woman. Duh.

Exactly. And nothing is worst than fallacy in a debate. And I can agree that females tend to have logical fallacy, thus creating unneeded arguments.

That's why men tend to let their women just win the argument, because there's no right in a man's word.

[superstitious]

And most of all, I dislike debating with females (no offense, no woman-hater)... females tend to have all those attributes that I've mentioned, and those are the types of attributes that ruin the fundamentals of debates. And we all know that men and women think completely differently than each other.

You have read Fae's posts, right? Because your theory would definitely exclude her. I respect that you have an opinion on the matter, but I don't respect your opinion.

shut the f**k up nate go suck more liberal cock you douchebag

You're a f**king idiot.

Those comments are entirely unnecessary and really uncalled for. I'm pretty liberal in my approach to moderating here, but please at least make an attempt to be civil, especially in this forum. It's in the forum rules, which are listed above (and are visible even as I type this response).

I would say that Nate (NoSex), Fae(Spirited Away), Sammi (ersatz) and Brandon are the best Debaters, in my opinion. They present their arguments logically and don't push their opinions on others.

[illriginal]

You have read Fae's posts, right? Because your theory would definitely exclude her. I respect that you have an opinion on the matter, but I don't respect your opinion.

Was that Fae who claimed our country is not in recession, when it clearly is? If so... I rest my case.

[superstitious]

Was that Fae who claimed our country is not in recession, when it clearly is? If so... I rest my case.

Is that an opinion given by females exclusively? Or does the fact that she's a woman automatically disqualify her from being a legitimate debating partner?

[illriginal]

Is that an opinion given by females exclusively? Or does the fact that she's a woman automatically disqualify her from being a legitimate debating partner?

No. Non of that. I'm simply saying that if it was her who tried to tell me and the rest of us that there's no recession as a fact then I rest my case in terms of why I don't like to debate with her.

And I should have been more specific, I believe that "generally" speaking, women are not good for debates because of the fallacies they bring to the table.


And best of all, their lil friends go off agreeing with them which only shows who's the sheeple and who are the independent thinkers.

[Simba]

Man, sometimes it can be hard whether you guys are being serious or sarcastic around here.

[superstitious]

No. Non of that. I'm simply saying that if it was her who tried to tell me and the rest of us that there's no recession as a fact then I rest my case in terms of why I don't like to debate with her.

And I should have been more specific, I believe that "generally" speaking, women are not good for debates because of the fallacies they bring to the table.
And best of all, their lil friends go off agreeing with them which only shows who's the sheeple and who are the independent thinkers.

Ah. I should clarify that my italicizing of "her" was merely to point out that she was female. Damn internet and loss of context.

I like "generally" speaking better. I know, it seems like such a silly little thing, but my opinion of you as a debater would completely diminish if I were to think that you didn't debate with certain individuals based solely on their gender.

[*Steven*]

Was that Fae who claimed our country is not in recession, when it clearly is? If so... I rest my case.

It was her. I agree with her, though. Economic downturn =/= recession. People made some stupid choices, some really stupid choices, and there are people who are hurting. There are plenty of people who are doing just fine. I've felt nothing of this "recession". Anyways, we'll just see how things turn out :)

[illriginal]

It was her. I agree with her, though. Economic downturn =/= recession. People made some stupid choices, some really stupid choices, and there are people who are hurting. There are plenty of people who are doing just fine. I've felt nothing of this "recession". Anyways, we'll just see how things turn out :)

Can you give me an example of a recession prior to the one that I as well as many many many many many other economists agree exists today?

Look up the word recession, that's exactly what's been goin on for a few years now. Specially with the fact that the war in the Middle East is costing us 12 billion dollars a month. =\

We can't call this a downturn, unless you plan on calling every day a down turn for economy. Downturn only happens once per period, not consistently, if that's the case, then it is called, "recession". Technically speaking.


downturn

A decline in security prices or economic activity following a period of rising or stable prices or activity. Even strong bull markets are subject to occasional downturns.



This isn't happening, because the fact of the matter is, every time the stocks (generally) go down 10 points, it goes up 5 points... this is like gas prices. Every time the gas goes up 20 cents, it drops 10 cents, then rises another 20 cents, and drops another 10 cents... the gas is "increasing". There's no upturn in the stocks and anyone who's claiming their is, is a lethargic lying devil.


By the way I listen to 610AM (which is a right-wing republican/conservative radio channel)... economy is always the open argument of the morning. And they put a lot of economists on their radio show which all agree that the economy is going through a recession slowly but surely.

[Heathasm]

not to be a jackass but i think everyone up there is a great masturbater debater. i really enjoy reading all of their posts

well except for podo and jc

[Tung]

I appreciate the debate about recessions, but this thread isn't about that. If you want to debate about that, go to the recession thread.

Heather, care to explain why Podo and JC aren't good?

[illriginal]

I appreciate the debate about recessions, but this thread isn't about that. If you want to debate about that, go to the recession thread.

Heather, care to explain why Podo and JC aren't good?

My bad, I'm just soooooo pissed that I let Fae win that lil debate about economy when I should have stood my ground. ::pout::

[*paperplane*]

Rebecca, that was a joke.

I could take Tamacracker's debating more seriously if he wouldn't judge other people's abilities on broad generalities such as gender, that aren't actually applicable any more applicable to the girls who post in debate here (all three, four of us?) than the guys.

[NoSex]

shut the f**k up nate go suck more liberal cock you douchebag

You love me.

P.S. The idea that women are worse at debating because women, inherently, present more fallacies is, in and of itself, a fallacy. It's a hasty generalization.

[EddieV]

Women do tend to win most arguments though.

[*paperplane*]

That has nothing to do with their tendency to use a lot of logical fallacies.

[brooklyneast05]

i duno what all the talk about women is about, especially with fae being one of the best here. nate and fae are my favorites. nate is the only person who's posts i come away from feeling like i've learned something. i like steven's debates when he's being serious. he can make some really good points. as much as i'd like to hate on tamacracker, i won't because he sparks more debate. he would be a lot better if his delivery was better. my delivery isn't that good either though.

i like reading all the posts by the debate regulars, especially because there's only a handful who keep that forum going.