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Should America Lower the Drinking Age?, 21 to 18? |
Dec 7 2004, 10:45 PM
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E! Online Group: Member Posts: 302 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,082 |
Legal Drinking Ages
http://www.icap.org/publications/report4.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age (<-- theres an external link on the bottom of this page which leads to another page stating legal drinking ages for countries) /edit |
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Dec 7 2004, 10:48 PM
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RiKACHANtEL Group: Member Posts: 3,876 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 51,230 |
i think its fine where it is...
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Dec 8 2004, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Dec 7 2004, 10:07 PM) American teens are basically forced to binge drink by the law. It's much easier to avoid getting caught binge drinking then having a six pack at home for gradual consumption. There is no drinking age in Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, and Romania for sure (or China), and I don't think there is one in most of the rest of Europe iether. American teens are not forced to drink, period. American teens who disobey the law see binge drinking as a much more logical choice, but they shouldn't be drinking in the first place. If they didn't drink (or drank moderately, like wine at dinner parties), wouldn't that make things better? |
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Dec 8 2004, 07:03 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 8 2004, 5:10 PM) American teens are not forced to drink, period. American teens who disobey the law see binge drinking as a much more logical choice, but they shouldn't be drinking in the first place. If they didn't drink (or drank moderately, like wine at dinner parties), wouldn't that make things better? i totally agree with you but theres still the issue about the liver still being under-deveolped. |
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Dec 8 2004, 07:28 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 8 2004, 5:10 PM) American teens are not forced to drink, period. American teens who disobey the law see binge drinking as a much more logical choice, but they shouldn't be drinking in the first place. If they didn't drink (or drank moderately, like wine at dinner parties), wouldn't that make things better? They can't moderately drink because it's easier to get caught, as I've explained unrefuted earlier. |
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Dec 8 2004, 08:02 PM
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yerp! Group: Member Posts: 3,489 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,454 |
QUOTE(smile4me @ Dec 5 2004, 10:30 PM) Should the drinking age be lowered in the United States? I think no. What does it matter, anyway? People drink illegally. In fact, more teens drink illegally than adults do. |
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Dec 9 2004, 10:14 PM
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cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE([f) eleeza,Dec 8 2004, 8:02 PM] What does it matter, anyway? People drink illegally. In fact, more teens drink illegally than adults do. adults have the option to drink... its legal for them to drink lol just wanted to correct you on that note. QUOTE its not going to be lowered no matter what ... and if teens really want to drink that badly, then there must be somethign seriously wrong with them there is nothing wrong with them.... its everyone else. Teens start to drink because they are depressed/upset/peer-pressured/curious to do it. i know i tried cause i was curious how it felt... and so many teens do it cause they are peer-pressured then they start to like it. so its not somthing wrong its just the other things that affect them. |
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Dec 11 2004, 06:42 PM
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High Voltage!∞ Group: Official Member Posts: 4,728 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,157 |
Of course not...21 is young enough
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Dec 11 2004, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Dec 7 2004, 10:07 PM) American teens are basically forced to binge drink by the law. It's much easier to avoid getting caught binge drinking then having a six pack at home for gradual consumption. There is no drinking age in Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, and Romania for sure (or China), and I don't think there is one in most of the rest of Europe iether. Technically, there is. The age of 16. But, like I was told, if a kid can reach the dollar slot, and get a beer from the machine, they won't care. Edit: And with the mentality of not being able to drink unti you are 21, compells people to want to do so more. Sort of a reverse psychology. |
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Dec 11 2004, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 833 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 57,463 |
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!! The drinking age in France is friggin' 16 (I think, or is it 15?). >.<
If you can legally take care of yourself at the age of 18, you should be able to drink legally at that age as well. |
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Dec 11 2004, 10:36 PM
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define our lives for us. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 11,656 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 43,293 |
no.. no lowered.
drinking is bad for your health... and can kill you. it's for y'all's safety. if someone chooses their path to growing up to drink, that's their problem to disobey the law. laws are there to protect you, for you own safety, but some of'em just cross the line. |
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Dec 12 2004, 01:20 AM
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E! Online Group: Member Posts: 302 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,082 |
the US has already tried teh age of 18.
that led to a huge amount traffic related crash fatalities. they raised the drinking age, and the number dropped considerably. adolescents can become addicted to alcohol more easily than adults. adolescence being "the period of physical and psychological development from the onset of puberty to maturity" this would be roughly between teh ages of 10 and 19. the brain is not fully developed yet, and addiction, as previously stated, is more likely compared to a fully grown adult. lowering the drinking age would just make it easier for ppl. \edit QUOTE And with the mentality of not being able to drink unti you are 21, compells people to want to do so more. Sort of a reverse psychology. But if we lower it, that reverse psychology will then be placed on an even younger group. |
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Dec 12 2004, 01:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,087 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 36,491 |
well what is it now? isnt it like 19? or 21? well i dont know. haha but lots of teenagers drink illegally anyways. actually a lot of preteens drink illegally anyways not me though *goody good*
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Dec 12 2004, 03:26 AM
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Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
I personally think it's fine where it is.
When you're 21, you're pretty much "an adult" now.. so you SHOULD be able to make your own decisions wisely.. yet not all of us can be wise even at that age. I think it has to do with maturity more than age. But it's fine where it is. You don't want little kids drinking what they please. |
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Dec 12 2004, 08:43 AM
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MCMXC a. D. Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 69,715 |
In Europe, they let the children run free, drinking as they please. But-
They cannot drive until they can afford driver's ed. Which is terribly expensive over there. I had hear it to be around as high as 2,000 euros. So.. If you can Drink and Not drive, or Drive, and then go out partying drinking.. all that crap... Which is safer? Having some kid, sloshed on the side of the road.. or a bunch to stupid drunk driving kids? |
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Dec 12 2004, 11:44 AM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
*cough* germany's law is 16, driving is 18.
my french teacher said they introduce them to drinking earlier so they are used to it and aren't getting so drunk by the time they drive, but i dunno if that's true. just saying. cause some people are saying different things. |
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Dec 12 2004, 12:07 PM
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E! Online Group: Member Posts: 302 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,082 |
QUOTE(Kriegsgefangene @ Dec 12 2004, 8:43 AM) In Europe, they let the children run free, drinking as they please. But- They cannot drive until they can afford driver's ed. Which is terribly expensive over there. I had hear it to be around as high as 2,000 euros. So.. If you can Drink and Not drive, or Drive, and then go out partying drinking.. all that crap... Which is safer? Having some kid, sloshed on the side of the road.. or a bunch to stupid drunk driving kids? theyre both bad. and thats why the law is fine where it is.. |
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Dec 12 2004, 12:09 PM
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MCMXC a. D. Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 69,715 |
QUOTE(Vaguely Aware @ Dec 12 2004, 11:44 AM) *cough* germany's law is 16, driving is 18. my french teacher said they introduce them to drinking earlier so they are used to it and aren't getting so drunk by the time they drive, but i dunno if that's true. just saying. cause some people are saying different things. I have the same teacher as you, but TWICE IN A ROW :P. she is cool. French 2 and German 2/3. Easy stuffs. Yeah. Drinking is around 16 in Europe and Asia, for the most part. And they don't seem to have too many deaths by cars related to drunk driving. More from the Auto Bahn |
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Dec 12 2004, 02:27 PM
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define our lives for us. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 11,656 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 43,293 |
QUOTE(teeners__15 @ Dec 12 2004, 1:48 AM) well what is it now? isnt it like 19? or 21? well i dont know. haha but lots of teenagers drink illegally anyways. actually a lot of preteens drink illegally anyways not me though *goody good* totallyyyyyyyy. they're bad! haha... drinking.. i bet they're doing that to be "cool" bleh.. of subject. i think it's perfectly fine the way it is. if it was lowered, more peple would freely drink and people would die more easily because of drunkness. and if it's raised up then people would still die because everybody basically drinks illegly [sp] |
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Dec 12 2004, 06:07 PM
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my <3 is in Ohio Group: Member Posts: 899 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,599 |
the thing is they can't really say people this age will be able to be responsible with alchohol (sp?) it's the attitude, responsibility and maturity of the person.
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Dec 12 2004, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,953 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 52,702 |
no..........but no one cares, everyone is drinking at age 15
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Dec 12 2004, 06:31 PM
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I'm your worst nightmare... Group: Member Posts: 391 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 56,600 |
i think the age should be lowered to 18. thats when u can go into the military. and if you are old enough to kill, then you should be old enough to drink
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Dec 12 2004, 06:47 PM
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Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 7 2004, 9:37 PM) in europe, alchohol is used during conversations; consumption is for social purposes and (from what I hear), it is done responsibly. can you believe that the drinking age in the Netherlands is lower than the driving age (not entirely sure of this fact, I have a friend from there who says drinking age is 16, driving is 18) I've heard the same thing. Italians, in particular, introduce their children to wine at a young age as to give them an appreciation for it. Also, I personally think underage drinking a reverse psychology type of thing; the reason why teenagers drink is because it's against the law. If the law made it so that teens could drink, it wouldn't be taboo, and no one would want to drink that much in the first place. |
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Dec 12 2004, 07:55 PM
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MCMXC a. D. Group: Member Posts: 106 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 69,715 |
QUOTE(MissMata @ Dec 12 2004, 6:47 PM) I've heard the same thing. Italians, in particular, introduce their children to wine at a young age as to give them an appreciation for it. Also, I personally think underage drinking a reverse psychology type of thing; the reason why teenagers drink is because it's against the law. If the law made it so that teens could drink, it wouldn't be taboo, and no one would want to drink that much in the first place. That is basically what I had posted up there, a bit ago. Yes.. the drinking age is younger than the Driving age. They would rather have some kid sloshed on the pavement, than a bunch of them driving around drunk. My German/French teacher had spent a couple years in Europe, and had also been an exchange student. She knows all about it. |
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Dec 12 2004, 10:45 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
well, if kids are accustom to drinking before they are driving, will not they be more responsible drinkers?
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