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Posted by: freeridefight Mar 29 2008, 05:44 PM
Since the running of Hillary Clinton, I was wondering if any other woman would make it to the process of running and the posistion of the Oval Office.
I know many supporters of Obama say that Hillary would not make a good president, but like the idea of having a woman as President. So, what would you think of Oprah as a President? Thoughts on any of that process.
You can also elaborate if you do/do not think Oprah would be a good President, who would be?
Posted by: Steven Mar 29 2008, 06:09 PM
stfu
Posted by: ms-jojo Mar 29 2008, 06:15 PM
Maybe President Oprah would give gifts to everyone!
Posted by: Bishinobi Mar 29 2008, 06:22 PM
She'd probably be all like BLACK POWER!!!!
I used to want Condoleeza Rice for prez
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 29 2008, 06:53 PM
uh no. oprah is a talk show host. since when does that qualify you for being the president?
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 29 2008, 07:01 PM
Fu*k you
She is kinda more than a talk show host. She has been pioneer in helping people around the world.
whatever people. Try and start a freakin conversation in here and not be asian or a popular poster and you get no where
Posted by: CODiENE Mar 29 2008, 07:03 PM
^seriously Oprah? u must be on drugs
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 29 2008, 07:10 PM
whatever people. Try and start a freakin conversation in here and not be asian or a popular poster and you get no where
helping people still doesn't qualify you to run this country.
being a popular poster or not being asian (
) isn't why people are disagreeing. it's because of your suggestion that a rich talk show host should run our economy and military.if you think it's a good idea then support your claim and tell us why you think so. that'll be a big improvement. it is after all the debate forum.
Posted by: Be-Faithful Mar 29 2008, 07:12 PM
don't know who is opra
but i agree with brooklyn G
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 29 2008, 07:19 PM
being a popular poster or not being asian (
) isn't why people are disagreeing. it's because of your suggestion that a rich talk show host should run our economy and military.if you think it's a good idea then support your claim and tell us why you think so. that'll be a big improvement. it is after all the debate forum.
ok.
Oprah, on one hand has the resources to help her own economic decisions. Look at her status now. She knows how to run money. Also, if she couldn't do it by herself, then she could find the help to do it.
Military wise, why would she need to run it. She is all around an amazing communicator, and can settle differences.
Posted by: ms-jojo Mar 29 2008, 07:52 PM
She is kinda more than a talk show host. She has been pioneer in helping people around the world.
whatever people. Try and start a freakin conversation in here and not be asian or a popular poster and you get no where
I didn't mean any disrespect. The gift-giving was seriously what I first thought about when I read your post.
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 29 2008, 08:10 PM
sorry. wasnt to you. was to steven
Posted by: MissHygienic Mar 29 2008, 08:14 PM
I doubt as a talk show host, she has any political aspirations. I have never seen anyone of the sort on her show, ever. She doesn't strike me as the type of person to run campaigns or even have any interest in government affairs. She's a person who is run by emotions and impulse, not logic. Have you seen her show that premiered her road trip with her best friend? She can hardly do anything for herself without the help of others.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 29 2008, 08:41 PM
how old are you?
Posted by: sourire Mar 29 2008, 09:29 PM
That's rather naive to say. Is she going to invite Al-Qaeda onto her show and talk it all out?
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Mar 29 2008, 11:47 PM
Thing I like about Oprah is that she cares about Education in this country. Now that's what I like about her. I would say she wouldn't be good president or a bad president...maybe a good motivative speaker or something.
Posted by: JokeInsideJoke Mar 29 2008, 11:50 PM
i still do. that woman is so smart!
i would trust her to lead America before i would trust hillary
oOoOoOOo im game for that.... maybe she will buy everyone a car when the turn 16!!!!
that would be magical!!!
im excited just thinking about it!
to bad it shall never be
Posted by: Tungster Mar 29 2008, 11:54 PM
i would trust her to lead America before i would trust hillary
oOoOoOOo im game for that.... maybe she will buy everyone a car when the turn 16!!!!
that would be magical!!!
im excited just thinking about it!
to bad it shall never be
yah, just stay back in the sandbox
as for this topic, epic fail my friend ryan. and yes it's because you aren't asian.
Posted by: ms-jojo Mar 29 2008, 11:59 PM
Honestly though, I don't think Oprah would make a very good president. And everyone's pretty much covered everything... I can't see her making any wise military decisions ("Let us be friends!" is what I see her saying), and Oprah being a great motivational speaker has nothing to do with her leadership skills.
(btw, whenever I think Oprah, I think of MadTV making those brilliant imitations of her)
But I still stand by what I said about her giving away gifts. But whatever, I'm not American anyway.
... which goes to show how little I know about American politics. =P
Posted by: JokeInsideJoke Mar 30 2008, 12:01 AM
why is it that most the time i post something that you don't like, or whatever the problem is that you have with me or my posts, you always tell me to 'go back to the sandbox' ? what the f**k is so bad about the sandbox?!
Posted by: ms-jojo Mar 30 2008, 12:03 AM
^ I don't think he means that there's something wrong with the Sandbox, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: JokeInsideJoke Mar 30 2008, 12:04 AM
then what exactly does he mean?
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 30 2008, 12:05 AM
the sandbox is for pointless topics and pointless posts. figure it out or take this convo there, cause we're getting back on topic here
and no, oprah still isn't a good presidential nomination
Posted by: Tungster Mar 30 2008, 12:08 AM
Also, Oprah would have a double whammy. What I mean is, people are already hesitant to have a woman as President, and yet alone African. She's BOTH female and black.
I know race and sex shouldn't matter, but that's how it just is.
Posted by: Tamacracker Mar 30 2008, 01:47 AM
f**k Oprah =\
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Mar 30 2008, 01:48 AM
lol
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 01:48 AM
as for this topic, epic fail my friend ryan. and yes it's because you aren't asian.
AHA knew it.
ok I admit kinda stupid topic. All I've eaten today is reeses.
but seriously, black and a woman. think about it.
booyah
Posted by: Tamacracker Mar 30 2008, 03:36 AM
lolAnd you're pretty damn fine.
Posted by: LoveToMySilas Mar 30 2008, 06:46 PM
If Hilary doesn't make it to president, I doubt Oprah will either. She just seems to put her face on everything...like magazines.
Posted by: Kayc05 Mar 30 2008, 07:04 PM
If Obama wasn't running I'd be pro Hillary; she's a very smart woman & she has a few good issues that she'd like to address as president but I just don't like the way she ran her campaigning; I don't stereotype this election by race or gender because I could honestly care less...Moreover, Oprah is one of my favorite icons but I don't think she should run for president. She's a wonderful woman as well and has done so much with her success and I think she's doing fine with what she's doing and plans to do & I know presidency isn't one of them. Her endorsing Obama was great though.
Posted by: Fist Mar 30 2008, 07:34 PM
i think opera will spend way too much money JUST FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
i notice she done so much more for black than any other race.
but i still like her for what she had done with so much money.
Posted by: Kayc05 Mar 30 2008, 07:47 PM
i notice she done so much more for black than any other race.
but i still like her for what she had done with so much money.
That statement sounds so racist; many black people would beg to differ, alot of people hate me for liking her because they say she helps all the white people & she put her school in Africa instead of America...and if you watch her show, you'd know that most of the guests are equally mixed between whites and blacks and other and a lot of whites have benefited from her show and more whites support her
Posted by: Fist Mar 30 2008, 07:56 PM
oh okay. that's what you see then.
;]
but still, she's a wonderful person.
I SPEND TOO MUCH TIME WITH MY ASIAN FRIENDS THAN I SPEND TIME WITH MY FRIENDS THE SAME COLOR AS ME.
is that a racist remark too?
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 30 2008, 08:25 PM
like?
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 08:30 PM
Oprah? That is the most unlikely thing ever. Just because you are the most powerful black woman does not mean you are a key candidate for presidency.
You didn't even support why other than she give people stuff.
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 08:37 PM
actually, remember Hurricane Katrina? Lots of white people too.
who got a car? Everyone there was white.
YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR
Posted by: Steven Mar 30 2008, 08:38 PM
who got a car? Everyone there was white.
YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR
What the fuck are you talking about? I understand you can relate with the Katrina victims, what with 90% of west virginia being inbred, but seriously, what do you know about Katrina? Did you see the news? That's too bad. Come to Houston and you'll see all the victims raising our crime rate, whites and blacks alike. Whites didn't get preferential treatment.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 30 2008, 08:39 PM
did you like record it and play it back scanning the audience for minorities?
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 08:40 PM
who got a car? Everyone there was white.
YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 08:40 PM
how old are you?
ok break this down.
Hurricane Katrina= white people too. She helped them
Episode where she gave everyone a car= helping white people again. See all the white women having heart attacks?
all better?
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 08:42 PM
She wasn't helping white people, she just gave cars to those that helped in the disaster. Two totally different things.
Posted by: chocokissez Mar 30 2008, 08:42 PM
...
Come to houston, you'll see.
Posted by: Steven Mar 30 2008, 08:43 PM
ok break this down.
Hurricane Katrina= white people too. She helped them
Episode where she gave everyone a car= helping white people again. See all the white women having heart attacks?
all better?
I've got 3 years on you, son.
I doubt Oprah gave out a million cars.
Who the f**k cares if there are white people? As far as I'm concerned, all the victims of Katrina were greedy assfaggots.
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 08:45 PM
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 08:48 PM
I doubt Oprah gave out a million cars.
Who the f**k cares if there are white people? As far as I'm concerned, all the victims of Katrina were greedy assfaggots.
did you miss the conversation?
*We were currently discussing how Oprah either helped black people more/helped other minorities.
and I was adding that she helped other races.
Posted by: Steven Mar 30 2008, 08:50 PM
*We were currently discussing how Oprah either helped black people more/helped other minorities.
and I was adding that she helped other races.
You're still a f****t, f*g.
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 08:51 PM
She doesn't need to be president based on the sole fact of how much help she gives out, the end.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 30 2008, 08:52 PM
calm down
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 08:53 PM
debate form=add something to the convo.
alright if not president, turn into a govenor?
Arnold did it.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Mar 30 2008, 08:54 PM
yeah but oprah doesn't even show interest in doing that...or anything involving politics
Posted by: chocokissez Mar 30 2008, 08:55 PM
It's california.
Plus who dosen't love the governator?
California isn't down for the count yet so i guess he's doing okay?
Oprah would mess it up, IMO.
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 08:58 PM
sorry. What I'm trying to say is that despite if she showed or did not show interest in politics, would she be a good president and I guess now govenor.
Posted by: MissHygienic Mar 30 2008, 09:01 PM
No. Plain and simple. The people who would be behind her are all of the widowed housewives whose kids are all grown-up and spend their time collecting cats to rot in the basement and sewing.
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 09:03 PM
gtfo
jk
First time I make a topic and my idea's are changing on the subject.
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 09:05 PM
Why do you think that, just because she gives gifts or whatever your rebuttal is, she would make a good president/governor? There are plenty of people that give, but that doesn't mean they should obtain the status. I don't see how just because someone like Oprah does a lot for the world, why that automatically makes her a person that could sit in a political position.
Posted by: freeridefight Mar 30 2008, 09:12 PM
That wasnt my rebuttal.
A. Its not that she gives gifts, she helps people. Isn't the whole idea of presidency if a person to represent the U.S. and help it? Seems like shes done a lot for the world, she might be able to concentrate it down.
B. Yes, there are people who could be qualified to do it. However, they have not reached the status of Oprah.
I am not putting her on a pedestal, just throwing a suggestion. Especially since the presidency is becoming up for grabs.
Posted by: Spencer Mar 30 2008, 09:13 PM
So, because of Oprah's status, she should be president, yeah?
Posted by: Steven Mar 30 2008, 09:21 PM
K back.
Okay Oprah would make a terrible president. What political backing/interest/knowledge does she have on the matter? What would she do about everything, make everyone go "green", yank our troops out immediately, cripple our economy, take all our money and give it to the poor, completely control what people are and aren't allowed to do because she knows best? No thanks. I'll stick with someone more conservative who lets me make my own mistakes.
Posted by: Kayc05 Mar 31 2008, 12:59 AM
;]
but still, she's a wonderful person.
I SPEND TOO MUCH TIME WITH MY ASIAN FRIENDS THAN I SPEND TIME WITH MY FRIENDS THE SAME COLOR AS ME.
is that a racist remark too?
That's completely different...I could care less about the whole issue &/or who you spend time with...I'm saying your comment about Oprah was a racist statement b/c you just blantanly stated she'd only help blacks & you put it in all caps & made the statement without any fact of what she currently does now...because if you go by everyone she's ever helped, blacks wouldn't even be top the list & that's just being real; I honestly don't even think she'd attain the status she has if she just helped blacks which is why she didn't & doesn't; she appeals to the majority & minority & that makes her a great person...quite frankly I think race shouldn't even be an issue concerning presidency; I know she wouldn't want to run for president; everyone thought she wanted to run for president once she gave the speech about Obama, negative; she's fine just being Oprah & helping who she chooses to help because its her perogative & her money
Posted by: Sumiaki Mar 31 2008, 02:56 AM
Before I state my decision, would Oprah be teamed with a Vice President Dr. Phil?
Posted by: doiink Mar 31 2008, 03:08 AM
people who give a rat's ass about education.
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Apr 2 2008, 10:24 PM
thanks.
Posted by: Tungster Apr 2 2008, 10:26 PM
he was april foolsing you.
Posted by: ChaseTheDragon Apr 2 2008, 10:27 PM
Oprah would make a better candidate than pretty much everyone else running.
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Apr 2 2008, 10:30 PM
still catching feelings i see.
Posted by: Tungster Apr 2 2008, 10:31 PM
that's exactly it. how'd you know?
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Apr 2 2008, 10:33 PM
the remark.
BTW...March 30 isn't April fools.
Posted by: whoahitznikki Apr 3 2008, 12:32 AM
heckkk no she's replacing one of my fav. channels just cus having her own talk show & being rich isn't good enough -___-".
Posted by: BadCraziness Apr 3 2008, 02:24 AM
oprah is such a ho.
okay, first she does a show where she gives EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE an SUV.
two months later, she does this show on how global warming will destroy us all, shows us some footage of some drowning polar bears, and tells us everyone who doesn't drive a hybrid car is a sadistic penguin-slayer.
and there's that The Secret bullshit. She promoted a documentary that claims that you can literally change reality by wishing. We’re not talking about the power of positive thinking - we’re talking about the ability to create a magical unicorn that farts rainbows by merely thinking about it. Maybe she can end poverty in America and bring back our dead soldiers if she wishes hard enough.
laaaaaaamelamelame.
Posted by: Sandraaa Apr 3 2008, 03:21 AM
HAHA. HAHA. LOL at the comments. I prefer Bill Gates.
Posted by: CruelDemeanor Apr 3 2008, 02:14 PM
okay, first she does a show where she gives EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE an SUV.
two months later, she does this show on how global warming will destroy us all, shows us some footage of some drowning polar bears, and tells us everyone who doesn't drive a hybrid car is a sadistic penguin-slayer.
and there's that The Secret bullshit. She promoted a documentary that claims that you can literally change reality by wishing. We’re not talking about the power of positive thinking - we’re talking about the ability to create a magical unicorn that farts rainbows by merely thinking about it. Maybe she can end poverty in America and bring back our dead soldiers if she wishes hard enough.
laaaaaaamelamelame.
How is Oprah a Ho?
Posted by: RissyMel May 3 2008, 01:19 AM
"Pedophile, you could be a pedophile, you probably already are."
rofl, I had to.
I think she'd make a good president.
or world dictator even!
haha
Posted by: freeridefight May 3 2008, 05:27 AM
rofl, I had to.
I think she'd make a good president.
or world dictator even!
haha
thanks. at the time I thought it would be a good idea, but now I think govenor would be the best position. (I was surprised how bashed the idea got)
Posted by: doughnut May 3 2008, 07:32 AM
okay. she's a motivation speech maker. she can't however, lead a country. if she was president she would probably spend the united states' money, which is already decreasing due to the war, and buy citizen a car. heck, everyone in the world if she can afford. then 2 months later she'd be all regretting cuz she has just made the global warming issue worse.
Posted by: RissyMel May 3 2008, 11:52 AM
But she could easily gain control of the world, she brainwashes all the mothers that watch the show, they do it to their families and BAM she rules everything.
ahha
Posted by: Glitteria May 4 2008, 05:28 PM
Only I can say:
xDDDD
Posted by: 1angel3 May 16 2008, 09:34 PM
Honestly anyone is better than Bush. I think Oprah would make a good president if given a chance. I don't know what she can and can't do as far as making military decisions or what not. She probably could make a good military decision, we really don't know. I know this much, she's a caring and giving person, she cars about the poor and kids need in education and that's what this country needs more right now. Oprah is very talented, so why would you think she would run a country the same why she run a show? She's smarter than that. You have to give her more credit than that.
Posted by: Sandraaa May 20 2008, 03:28 PM
^ Yeah, that post is seriously a joke. Just because you're caring and bla bla doesn't make you competent to be the president of AMERICA. I am not American and heck I don't want to be one but I know this for sure, Oprah won't do as well as you think.
I care about the poor, but do you see me as a candidate of the Belgian prime minister post?
Posted by: Spirited Away May 21 2008, 01:05 PM
And where are your facts? I'm just curious here because you mentioned facts. I'm sure she's helped a lot of people, but do you have their demographic information?
The foundation of her status is based upon the many housewives passing their time hugging the Telly. With that said, I like Oprah, even tho I am not a housewife. She's a rarity amongst celebraties because there aren't much negative publicty attached to her name.
That's nice; you're a rarity as well. From what I've seen/hear/watched/read, African Americans are generally the loudest in pointing out the racial gap at any level of government. If you don't believe this for a fact, all you have to do make a search using any kind of reputable source of news you'd prefer. Not just African Americans make this criticism, of course, but they are the most noticeable. Thus it is quite apparent that race DOES matter, whether or not you or anyone thinks should not. Denying that fact with ideals will only put more junk in our crowded and very cluttered closet, which can burst out, forcefully and violenty any day.
As for looking at Oprah or any other woman running for presidency: May the best man win.
Posted by: 1angel3 May 23 2008, 06:00 PM
I care about the poor, but do you see me as a candidate of the Belgian prime minister post?
How do you know? Lets forget about how much a given and caring person she is. How do you know she won't make a good president? I'm not saying she will make a good president and I'm not saying she would make a bad president because I really don't know. Also I'm not saying because she's a given person and caring person, that would make her a good president but it wouldn't make her a bad president.
Posted by: Sandraaa May 26 2008, 12:20 PM
^ The most ridiculous post I've read so far. No need to even start a debate with you.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie May 28 2008, 07:55 PM
You got to be kidding me even Obama would make a better president and he has about as much experience in politics as a college kid at driving.
Someone tell me when did giving out free stuff become the only prerequisite to become president? Whatever happenened to knowing how to do the job before you got it?
Posted by: 1angel3 May 30 2008, 10:45 PM
Okay don't insult my intelligences because we have different opinions on this that doesn't give you a right to do so. I don't think you're worth debating with either. I just ask a question. How do you know she won't make a good president?
I just want an answer.
Posted by: Glamourouz May 30 2008, 11:32 PM
The foundation of her status is based upon the many housewives passing their time hugging the Telly. With that said, I like Oprah, even tho I am not a housewife. She's a rarity amongst celebraties because there aren't much negative publicty attached to her name.
That's nice; you're a rarity as well. From what I've seen/hear/watched/read, African Americans are generally the loudest in pointing out the racial gap at any level of government. If you don't believe this for a fact, all you have to do make a search using any kind of reputable source of news you'd prefer. Not just African Americans make this criticism, of course, but they are the most noticeable. Thus it is quite apparent that race DOES matter, whether or not you or anyone thinks should not. Denying that fact with ideals will only put more junk in our crowded and very cluttered closet, which can burst out, forcefully and violenty any day.
As for looking at Oprah or any other woman running for presidency: May the best man win.
I have better things to do with my time than to prove to someone the majority of who Oprah helps...sorry...you can look up the demographic information yourself if it matters so much to you; I just know blacks don't top that list & if you talk to some blacks yourself, because I can't prove that it's the majority either nor care to, they don't even like Oprah. I'm a rarity when it comes to a lot of things but anyway, of course race matters (it's pretty evident in this current election) & it will always matter to society as a whole, but I'm not concerned about what other people or any race thinks, I only account for me, myself & I & what I stand by & believe...
Posted by: brooklyneast05 May 30 2008, 11:41 PM
^i like oprah
lmao. i'm with you.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie May 31 2008, 08:25 AM
You got to be kidding me right? I know it may be hard for you to understand ( no offense ) seeing how you lact political intellect but, being a politician on any level requires experience in law dealing with international security, and such and such. Obama has a little McCain has a alot and Oprah has ZERO.
The other problem is her personality and lifestyle is not one a president would have. I never saw a president have his own silly talkshow of famous celebraties right before he had to give a speech on the economy.
And another thing, who in their right mind would support a candidate jusy because they have a talk show and give out free stuff.
Most important reason why you shouldnt vote for her is because shes a Democrat of course
Btw, I dont know why I am replying ither shes not worth debating but, with little chance I can convert her to the right way :)
Posted by: 1angel3 May 31 2008, 01:20 PM
McCain is too old, he need to retire. As far as Oprah goes, we all know that she has no desire to run for president. I was just making a point. If you don't agree with what I said then that's your right. I don't consider you stupid because of it. Please don't insult my intelligences like that. Please!
The other problem is her personality and lifestyle is not one a president would have. I never saw a president have his own silly talkshow of famous celebraties right before he had to give a speech on the economy.
Reagan was a simple movie star and he become president. Think before you speak! As far as your personal attacks on me, I am proud to support democratic ideas even though I'm not old enough to vote. Just because your point of view does not agree with my point of view does not make me stupid. That's the problem with some people.
And another thing, who in their right mind would support a candidate jusy because they have a talk show and give out free stuff.
The same people who voted for Reagan
Most important reason why you shouldnt vote for her is because shes a Democrat of course
I'm growing up in a Democratic house and I see nothing wrong with it.
Btw, I dont know why I am replying ither shes not worth debating but, with little chance I can convert her to the right way :)
If you feel you're wasting your time then I feel that you're wasting my time as well, go talk to someone who agrees with you.
Simple as that.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie May 31 2008, 05:00 PM
Your not even old enough to know Reagan and growing up with Democrats doesnt speak very highly of what you know about him.
I am sorry you miscontrued my pronouns 
, I was not making a personal attack on you unless you are Oprah and planning on running for president . Notice the Direct Object in the sentence titled "president"
I will cease this because clearly from your comment on his age you have been brainwashed already
But, before I go I will say that it is much more exciting debating someone who disagrees instead of debating someone who agrees with you
I added some smilies to ease your emotions I hope they serve their intended effect
Posted by: 1angel3 May 31 2008, 06:40 PM
Your not even old enough to know Reagan and growing up with Democrats doesnt speak very highly of what you know about him.They do teach History in school. Democrats know well enough Reagan mess up this country. That man was so old he couldn't tell wallpaper from trees.
I am sorry you miscontrued my pronouns
, I was not making a personal attack on you unless you are Oprah and planning on running for president . Notice the Direct Object in the sentence titled "president"Do you mean "misconstrued"? You was attacking my intelligences. Saying I lack political intellect. That's what I was referring too.
I will cease this because clearly from your comment on his age you have been brainwashed already
I'd rather be brain washed then brain dead
But, before I go I will say that it is much more exciting debating someone who disagrees instead of debating someone who agrees with you
Okay I agree with you on that.
I added some smilies to ease your emotions I hope they serve their intended effect
Yeah let you tell it.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie May 31 2008, 09:00 PM
Key word Democrats, to Republicans like me with my values he did a great job.
Yes I did (note to self never rush checking blogs during commerical breaks lol)
Sorry to say this bluntly but from my first reaction it seemed like a fact. Just the way you worded it sounded to me like a just some teenage fan of Oprah prasing her because shes a role model. I must be getting old.
Posted by: 1angel3 Jun 1 2008, 02:07 PM
Reagan didn't do anything. He didn't even write his own speeches. All he did is sign stuff when they told him to. He was just a puppet.
Yes I did (note to self never rush checking blogs during commerical breaks lol)
Sorry to say this bluntly but from my first reaction it seemed like a fact. Just the way you worded it sounded to me like a just some teenage fan of Oprah prasing her because shes a role model. I must be getting old.
Yeah you're, it's okay, and god loves you and so do I
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie Jun 1 2008, 02:37 PM
A great many people like Obama dont write their own speeches.
Posted by: 1angel3 Jun 1 2008, 03:28 PM
Reagan didn't do anything though.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie Jun 1 2008, 06:24 PM
It was Regan who got Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall.
It was also Regan who prevented Muammar Gaddafi’s terrorism from spreading for Libya.
I was also Regan who won by a land slide in the 84 elections.
Posted by: 1angel3 Jun 1 2008, 07:05 PM
It was also Regan who prevented Muammar Gaddafi’s terrorism from spreading for Libya.
I was also Regan who won by a land slide in the 84 elections.
It was Reagan who raise the retirement age from 65 to 67
It was Reagan who took a lot of money from preschools.
He just wasn't no good
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie Jun 1 2008, 09:53 PM
It was Regan who tried to save our already poor social security system.
If you are referring to S1965 by Robert Stafford that didnt hurt the preschools it promoted education. I dont know who told you that he was taking money away.
Posted by: doughnut Jun 2 2008, 08:42 AM
whoever reagan is doesnt make oprah a good president.
Posted by: Sandraaa Jun 2 2008, 10:51 AM
I just want an answer.
I am truly sorry if you thought I insulted your intelligence. Oprah hasn't got presidential qualities. I don't mind the woman, I sometimes watch her show (but they've been overplayed in Belgium that I get tired). I love how she attacks pedophiles, murderers, whonot. I love how generous and caring she is. Dude, I could name thousands of her qualities, but she can't be a president. I 'know so' just as the way you know that you and I will definitely suck as presidents. I personally think you like her too much, you can't even see how wrong this idea is.
Anyway, I'm truly sorry for coming out rude. I hate people thinking I'm mocking them ><
OMG, JC IS WITH HER! OMG. Dude stfu.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Jun 2 2008, 12:36 PM
dude stfu.
Posted by: 1angel3 Jun 2 2008, 09:20 PM
If you are referring to S1965 by Robert Stafford that didnt hurt the preschools it promoted education. I dont know who told you that he was taking money away.
No what I'm talking about happen in the 80s when Reagan was president. I ask my dad about it and he said he couldn't have been in the 60s because the Civil rights movement happen in 50s and 60s and in 1965 Lynden Johnson was president.
Anyway, I'm truly sorry for coming out rude. I hate people thinking I'm mocking them ><
OMG, JC IS WITH HER! OMG. Dude stfu.
I appreciate your understanding of my feelings. Also Oprah is not presidential consideration of mine as well. My point was this in America we are told as children that we can be anything that we want to be and so can Oprah. Can she really win? No I doubt it but she has the freedom to run if she wanted too. If Barack Obama was running against Oprah I would vote for Obama. Now that's reality. I hope you understand better what I was trying to say. You have a nice day.
How you know that if you don't know who Reagan is? He was a bad president, Oprah can't be any worse, he was just as bad as Bush but the only differences was overall people love him. He was a lovable idiot.
Posted by: Voterepublicanordie Jun 3 2008, 05:15 AM
S1965 is the name of a Congress Bill that Regan passed that did stuff for education increasing funding for a teacher training program I believe to be exact.
Posted by: Sandraaa Jun 9 2008, 12:38 AM
Still a f**ktard, I see.
Posted by: Spirited Away Jun 11 2008, 12:38 PM
My word, I do believe you're a hypocrite. You asked Fist to present facts to support her statement and yet you won't give any for your own claims... because you have better things to do? Like Fist didn't have better things to do than to give you want you want? And if you DO really, in truth, have better things to do, why are you on Createblog in the first place?
This proves that you, and the rest of you, definitely don't care about what others think. It's not okay for someone to talk without evidentiary support for their facts, but it's totally okay for you to do it.
LMAO... I take it back, you're a hypocrite and are in abundance.
Sorry for the late reply, I don't visit these forums as often as I used to.
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 29 2008, 03:16 PM
She is kinda more than a talk show host. She has been pioneer in helping people around the world.
whatever people. Try and start a freakin conversation in here and not be asian or a popular poster and you get no where
I dont think anyone like Oprah is qualified to be president. Nor do I think anyone who is in the celebrity spotlight is qualified to be president. I dont like how as time has gone by, media has expanded and became warped and the reasons why we vote for a president have changed.
When I look at a presidential nominee, I look at their political experience, what they have done in their career, where they are going, and what they stand for.
Even suggesting Oprah as president is ridiculous.
Posted by: coconutter Jul 29 2008, 03:57 PM
That's like having Steven Colbert run the country, although it would be funny, we'd probably all die.
Posted by: mipadi Jul 29 2008, 04:34 PM
"Do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war? ... He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians." - Dr. Strangelove (1964)
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 29 2008, 09:50 PM
okay
Posted by: mipadi Jul 29 2008, 09:53 PM
Okay.
To elaborate, my point is that experience does not necessarily make one a good politician. Ted Stevens is the most experienced Republican Senator, and he's been indicted on charges of corruption. Strom Thurmond was an experienced, but corrupt, politician as well.
In fact, I'd rather have someone who wasn't a lifelong politician in office. They might actually be more likely to resist the status quo in politics.
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 29 2008, 10:08 PM
To elaborate, my point is that experience does not necessarily make one a good politician. Ted Stevens is the most experienced Republican Senator, and he's been indicted on charges of corruption. Strom Thurmond was an experienced, but corrupt, politician as well.
In fact, I'd rather have someone who wasn't a lifelong politician in office. They might actually be more likely to resist the status quo in politics.
No matter how many experienced politicians have made mistakes like that, Im sure there is an equal number of inexperienced politicians who have made the same mistakes. You listing off a few currupt politicians to me does nothing. Experience is an extremely important thing when running.
Posted by: mipadi Jul 29 2008, 11:02 PM
So you say, but you have yet to really elaborate.
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 30 2008, 06:56 PM
Because the more experience you have in politics the more you are aware of foreign policy, national issue and how the system works.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Jul 30 2008, 07:48 PM
what about when you have a system that doesn't work? a bunch of experience in a broken system isn't saying much to me at the moment.
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 30 2008, 08:27 PM
The US system isnt broken. And dont you think having experience in a system is better than having none at all? The US system isnt so bad where it would hurt the candidate to have experience in it.
Posted by: brooklyneast05 Jul 30 2008, 08:44 PM
barack obama isn't some random person off the street with NO experience at all. how is that question even valid?
Posted by: mipadi Jul 30 2008, 09:43 PM
Really? Are people like George Bush really more aware of foreign policy? Of domestic issues?
Okay, maybe they're more aware of how "the system" works. But the political system is just a giant machine of corruption anyway, so I don't much mind if my political leaders know how it works or not.
And yes, when corporations and special interest groups control the government, I think the system is broken.
Posted by: dosomethin888 Jul 31 2008, 02:11 AM
I wasnt implying anything at all about Obama. I was just expanding. I know Obama has experience
Posted by: freeridefight Aug 6 2008, 04:05 AM
When I look at a presidential nominee, I look at their political experience, what they have done in their career, where they are going, and what they stand for.
Even suggesting Oprah as president is ridiculous.
The Media's representation of her has been quite accurate. Just because the media warps many lives of celebrities.
Yes, many of our reasons have changed I agree. However, look at her past. She would be a MUCH BETTER candidate than many that have ran for office. Nader for instance. Yes, she may not be the most applicable for office, but she would do much better than what we have now.