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Forums _ News _ LA popos bring gun to a knife fight

Posted by: smash Sep 6 2010, 11:15 PM

At one point, police in riot gear faced off with a shouting throng near a series of memorials hung from a fence by the sidewalk where the man was killed on 6th Street. He was identified by friends as Manuel Jamines, 37, a Guatemalan immigrant who came to Los Angeles seven years ago.

"He was not a criminal," said Juan Velasquez, who said he is from the same village as Jamines.

Julio Martinez, 57, said he was walking along 6th on Sunday when he saw officers from the LAPD's bicycle unit fire their weapons at Jamines, who was not armed, according to Martinez.

"I did not see a knife in his hands," Martinez said, adding that he heard two gunshots.

LAPD Capt. Rigo Romero said officers recovered a knife from the scene and that detectives were investigating the killing.

"Our investigation is going to be transparent," he said. "We take every force investigation very, very seriously."

At one point, protesters got into a shouting and shoving match with a store security guard, who fled to his car and sped away as people hurled objects and kicked at his vehicle.

As the crowd gathered at the corner, Guatemalan Consul General Pablo Garcia Saenz arrived to ask that people protest peacefully and assure them that his staff was in contact with the LAPD. His assistants said that a community meeting was planned for 7 p.m. Tuesday at the Guatemalan Consulate.

"We do not want any more violence," Saenz told the crowd in Spanish.,0,1457952.story

police are completely in the wrong on this one. they could have shot him in the arm to get dude to drop the gun. there was no need to shoot him in the head, especially not twice.


Posted by: ButtsexV2 Sep 7 2010, 03:17 PM

if you're shooting someone, you shoot to kill. shooting to maim is cruel.

Posted by: serotonin Sep 7 2010, 03:46 PM

QUOTE(ButtsexV2 @ Sep 7 2010, 03:17 PM) *
if you're shooting someone, you shoot to kill. shooting to maim is cruel.

but he could have lived. i have no idea who was in the wrong, but if the man was holding a knife in a non threatening manner, even if the police felt threatened, they could have shot his arm and got him to drop the knife. if the police were being threatened / attacked, shooting to kill as a method of self defense is reasonable.

but still, i'd rather be shot in the arm than the head. my arm will heal, death will not.

Posted by: ButtsexV2 Sep 7 2010, 07:11 PM

if I knew who was in the wrong I would have had a less general comment. someone could be lying on either side.

the real question is, if you're going to take out one (possibly unarmed) minority, why not take out the other?

Posted by: serotonin Sep 7 2010, 08:55 PM

Oh I don't know, perhaps the possibility of innocence?

Posted by: ButtsexV2 Sep 7 2010, 09:47 PM

you mean the possibility they totally ignored with the first guy?