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Posted by: Kay- Nov 18 2008, 09:20 PM

Yes, I think there's already a topic on this but those are from a really long time ago. As you all know Marc Emery (the prince of pot) ran for Mayor of Vancouver in 1996 and ever since he's been fighting for legalization for marajuana in Canada. And he owns his very own shop in Vancouver with a vapour lounge in it.
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/5310.html
The link above shows you that on Nov 15th 2008 Cannabis Activists are getting elected all across BC.
I live in Vancouver and I'm a huge supporter of Marc Emery. Im so glad that he is still fighting for legalization. I've been to his shop many times before and I've met Marc Emery himself there. He's a really nice guy and I think with time marajuana will be legal here.
What do you guys think of legalizing marajuana?

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 18 2008, 09:25 PM

I dont think marijuana should be legalized, people have cannablis cards here in the US but end up addicts and potheads, we should legalize hemp though, if we want any sort of energy reform independence.

Posted by: Tomates Nov 18 2008, 09:28 PM

They recently legalized Medicinal Marajuana in my state. I think its really un-necissary to be honest. I had juniors in my class go "im so excited that proposal 1 passed!" which tells you there that it will probably be abused.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 18 2008, 09:36 PM

i disagree, medicinal marijuana should be definitely be legalized in all states in my opinion. even if people abuse it, i still think it should be legalized for medicinal use. i have a semi severe chronic back problem, and i'm in pain just about everyday and take pretty heavy prescribed pain killers that i'm basically addicted to. i can't just up and stop taking my dosage anymore without withdrawing. if being provided with a non physically addicting treatment helped then i don't care if some idiot teenagers somewhere abuse it as long as it's helping people in pain who have to cope with things like this on a day to day basis. is it really fair to everyone who would use it responsibly to not get to because someone else will abuse it? i think that option should be there for those it helps.


as far as legalizing it in general. i wouldn't say i'm 100% for that because i don't think i have all the facts. i definitely support decriminalizing it, and i probably support legalizing it in general. why is alcohol legal but marijuana not?


yeah and for the record, i don't smoke. so it's not like i'm one of the smokers who is like YEAH WOOHOOO. i don't now, and i highly doubt i would if it was legal since it being illegal isn't why i don't anyway.

Posted by: Hedonism Nov 18 2008, 09:40 PM

I think Marijuana should be legalized.
Maybe, though, there should be an age limit to purchase it.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 18 2008, 09:48 PM

Please learn to write, spell, and punctuate before posting in debate again.

There are few states in which people can acquire cannabis cards, as medical marijuana is
still illegal in the vast majority of states.

Marijuana is not physically addictive, so no, people will not "end up addicts." In fact, by legalizing marijuana, people would likely have reduced access to harder drugs, as they wouldn't have to go to dealers who could potentially encourage them to try other things, therefore eliminating a lot of the reasoning behind the "gateway drug" theory. As for people becoming potheads, is everyone who's ever drank an alcoholic? No. Moderation is key, and it is not the government's place to ban substances that are not particularly harmful when used safely. Weed is far less dangerous than alcohol, really; it doesn't make people violent, it's not physically addictive, you can't OD on it, etc etc.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1039647/ on the subject is pretty interesting.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 18 2008, 09:49 PM

cancer patients who cant eat get an appetite

pain reliever

more that i dont know of


LIES YOU CAN OD, JUST AFTER SMOKING LIKE 5000 POUNDS OF IT

Posted by: paperplane Nov 18 2008, 09:59 PM

Even if there were not real medical benefits, I'd still think it should be legalized. Yes, people should be able to get high if they want. If no one else is getting hurt, it is not the government's problem. People go on and on about how they want a small government, and then support government bans on things like marijuana or () gay marriage. It's completely illogical. You shouldn't be asking what the benefits of legalizing something are, you should be asking how we benefit from having it illegal.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 18 2008, 10:08 PM

not to mention taxing it would be a small boost for the economy

Posted by: paperplane Nov 18 2008, 10:12 PM

Yeah, definitely better that than to continue wasting money by including pot in the the "war on drugs."

Posted by: NoSex Nov 18 2008, 10:25 PM

1. freedom is actualized:
we live in a country that proposes to be free. the contents of our minds are a primary aspect of personal freedom. if the government is telling us we cannot control the contents of our minds through the use of drugs, than we can't say we're a free country.
2. the black market is defeated:
the drug war has only made selling drugs more profitable, in an effect, this has added to the proliferation of drugs (making them more accessible to everyone). if we legalize drugs (especially harmless drugs like cannabis) we can eliminate a black market that supports organized crime all over this nation & supplies criminals with the power & money to operate. this will lower associated crime (remember, black market disputes can't be taken to court. if someone snags your scag, you shoot them).
3. innocent people are allowed to live:
over fifty percent of our prisons are full of non-violent drug offenders. these people don't deserve the sentences that they are given. further, they are a costly aspect of our policy; we pay to imprison them & everyone pays when they are torn form their work, their lives, & their families.
4. medicinal benefits:
medical weed already helps millions of people all over the world; we need to jump on the bandwagon already.
5. we end the drug war:
less needless spending & effort & time on a worthless (& offensive) war against the american people.
6. etc.:
you suck for not thinking of any of these.

IF EVOLUTION IS A CRIME ONLY CRIMINALS WILL EVOLVE!

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 18 2008, 10:25 PM

sorry smartass

Posted by: MatMan1490 Nov 18 2008, 10:32 PM

Actually, Marijuana has been documented to have some theriputic effect, for patients with glaucoma, and for those dealing with the pain of Chemotherapy, or wieght loss associated with HIV/AIDS.

It can have positve effect, just like cough syrup, for some people, and for that reason, I think it should be legalized and taxed. The tax money could then be used to fund research, and detoxification and intervention.

It 'can' be useful, but, most folks don't want to even consider legalization, for fear of setting a dangerous precedent.

Seems rather narrow minded to me. Feel free to actually read a study on the effects of marijuana use, it could be a great help, but, without actually considering it, it isn't even being put up for discussion.

Posted by: manic Nov 18 2008, 10:53 PM

I'd love to be able to smoke a joint and go on about my daily activites. Yes, it would be great.

Posted by: applejaxkz Nov 18 2008, 11:15 PM

Marijuana does have some medicinal effects, which is why I believe it should be legalized. But I don't want to hear people saying "Oh it'll get abused and wah wah wah." What do you think people do with Alcohol. Sure legalize it, even if they make dumb ass laws like; you have to be 21, or in a designated area and etc.

Posted by: Kay- Nov 19 2008, 05:16 PM

It also prevents alzheimer's

Posted by: applejaxkz Nov 19 2008, 09:29 PM

It also destroys your short term memory, and problem solving skills.

Posted by: AimatmeRam Nov 19 2008, 09:37 PM

Agreed entirely!
Nothing wrong with weed.
Too much is bad.

Posted by: Tomates Nov 19 2008, 09:38 PM

I know someone who is a cancer survivor and is a junior in high school right now. The one thing she said when we were discussing this topic was "When i had cancer i was given all these drugs and the last thing i would need or want is another drug". Im aware medicinal marajuana can actually help my relieving the pain and increasing the appetite, but its one more drug and i think most patience dont want to keep taking and taking drugs.

I think the thing that bothered me most though about legalizing it was how the people who can have it are legally allowed to grow it, and it just bothers me how i hear and see high school students using it and how my former friend is using it now and is f*cking her life over overall now.

Posted by: SharperMyspace Nov 19 2008, 10:17 PM

Those are NOTHING compared to what Tobacco can do to you.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 19 2008, 10:32 PM

What does that quote have to do with anything? Marijuana would be a natural replacement for other pharmaceuticals, not "one more drug." It's effective, and could be used instead of taking other addictive chemicals. You obviously have no conception of what cancer patients want or need, and you really have a lot of growing up to do. But we're going by anecdotal evidence here, my aunt had cancer and my mom would buy weed for her. Because it is helpful in making people feel better. We need to prioritize people's health and well being over pharmaceutical companies.

Things should not be banned just because they have the potential to be abused. The people who will f*ck up their lives will f*ck up their lives regardless. I don't understand why "conservatives" feel that "personal responsibility" applies to economy, but not to anything that might approach "moral" territory. If cannabis were to be legalized, it would have an age limit like alcohol and cigarettes, and therefore probably not reach more high school kids than it does now. But as an adult, I should be able to get high off of a relatively harmless drug if I so choose. So long as I don't drive stoned (which is still much, much better than drunk driving) than it is really no one's business but my own. If I choose to "f*ck my life over" with it, that's my prerogative. Personal responsibility, personal responsibility, personal responsibility.

You really need to grow up.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 19 2008, 10:38 PM

^yeah what she said.


i think you missed my point. my point being that i'm physically dependent on the pain medicine i take now, and there's not really anyway around that because that's just the reality of high strength pain medicines, narcotics. it wouldn't be "one more drug", but really it would be one less drug, because it would be a replacement that isn't physically addicting. i don't want to keep taking and taking drugs, just like other people don't want to. so if there is an alternative they should be able to take advantage of that.

so i don't think you're looking at it like people in pain look at it. i would be willing to bet if you're friend said that, she doesn't know much about marijuana in the first place. it's probably a lot safer than any drugs she had to take.


and yeah, if we're going to ban everything that has the potential of being abused we'd have to ban the majority of drugs in the first place. so that makes no sense at all. we might as well ban tylenol, i mean people can abuse that!

Posted by: misoshiru Nov 19 2008, 10:59 PM

Marijuana was legalized in Massachusetts. Just felt like pointing that out.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 19 2008, 11:48 PM

It is so annoying when people write that.

I dont think it should be legalized because it is a drug. For medicinal purposes, thats fine. Of course people are going to abuse it.. people abuse laws all the time. Ya, there are some benefits to legalizing it, but I dont want any drugs to be legal. Alcohol and drugs are different. That is why alcohol is legal.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 19 2008, 11:54 PM

You cannot be serious.

Caffeine is a drug.
Nicotine is a drug.
Aspirin is a drug.
Ephedrine is a drug.
Xanax is a drug.
ALCOHOL IS A DRUG.
etc. etc. etc.

Jesus f*cking Christ.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 20 2008, 12:21 AM

Aspirin is a medicine. Ephedrine is a medicine. Xanax is a medicine.

Even putting marajuana into the same category as caffeine makes you an idiot.

Marajuana is in the same category as hard drugs, the kinds that shouldnt be legalized... Come on.

Alcohol is a beverage. Having one beer doesnt make you drunk. Taking one drag of marajuana makes you high. Why would we want to legalize something that gets people high??

Posted by: paperplane Nov 20 2008, 12:30 AM

CAFFEINE IS A DRUG. You said you don't want marijuana legal because it is a drug. A MEDICINAL DRUG LIKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS EXCEPT ALCOHOL WHICH IS STILL A LEGAL DRUG. So yeah, they're in the same goddamn category.

IT IS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS HARD DRUGS LEGALLY, BUT NOT EFFECTIVELY. (and actually, that's not really even true- cannabis is a class C drug.)

If those other things are okay because they can be used as medicine, then by that logic pot should be too. You've just disproved your own point. Xanax is highly addictive and quite often abused. By most measures it is far more harmful than weed. And alcohol is ALSO A DRUG and still legal.
(You will notice benzodiazepines (xanax) and alcohol and tobacco all higher than cannabis on the chart.)



Edit for the edit:
Um, no, it is all relative. The more you drink, the more drunk you get. The more you smoke, the higher you get. One hit will not necessarily get someone high. Most people don't get high their first time (or few) smoking. Someone with a higher tolerance will not get high off one hit. One sip of beer may not get someone drunk, but one sip of something with a higher alcohol content could get someone with a lot tolerance drunk. It is a beverage that would get people drunk? Why would we want to legalize something that could get them drunk- when that could make them violent, mess with their judgment, become addicted to it, and could die of alcohol poisoning? Why not legalize something that could HELP PEOPLE MEDICINALLY and who the f*ck cares if they get high? Why is it the government's place to say it's not ok to get high, or that it's ok to take this one drug that you could get high off of but not this other one?

Or just go back a page and read the benefits Nate listed.

Posted by: fameONE Nov 20 2008, 12:36 AM

Has anyone else noticed that Nate dropped an ETHER bomb on this thread? He cut out the fat and got right down to common sense and common knowledge.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 20 2008, 07:31 AM

why are people so insistent that it's a hard drug? i don't get this. is it just because you only remember what they beat into your head in 4th grade about all drugs being the most awful things in the world? because you need to get the f*ck over that by now. drugs are BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD when you're little because little kids can't differentiate or comprehend differences like this anyway, so there isn't much else to tell them. you need to grow up and do some research though if you're over 16 and you still think weed is a terrible drug that your going to become physically dependent on and kill you.

i don't understand

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 20 2008, 08:49 AM

Maybe legalizing some substances in marijuana would not hurt, and these should be available to people with licenses or with some kind of knowledge of drugs, not to the entire population to get high off of.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 20 2008, 12:04 PM

Why? Who, pray tell, is hurt by people getting high?

And now look, you have to understand why they feel the need to differentiate between the real thing and "chemically refined by-products that could be taken by mouth." It's not because it's a more effective medication. It's not so people don't get high. It's because pharmaceutical companies cannot make money off of a natural product that people can grow themselves. It's all about conforming to lobbiests' demands. Why would you want to take the synthetic version of something when you could take the natural one?

Posted by: YukkaPukka Nov 20 2008, 01:16 PM

I think that if it's legalized. people wont be so "hyped" about doing it anymore. I also think it'll become more expensive, and nobody will have the money to buy it anymore.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 20 2008, 04:14 PM

Ya except that caffeine makes you more alert, while marajuana makes you less alert.


Drugs are bad, brooklyn, and thats why they try to make it clear to children from a young age. Marajuna is the less toxic of all hard drugs, for sure. Besides making you sluggish and lazy, I dont think it has any adverse side effects. But, doing one drug could lead to another and lead to gateways to more drugs. Its not a good idea to make marajuana legal because it is a hard drug.

Anyways, I already said medicinal purposes for marajuana are fine.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 20 2008, 04:40 PM

It's not really accurate to say that cannabis decreases awareness. It increases concentration. But regardless, that hardly makes caffeine less of, or cannabis more of a drug. There are different kinds of drugs, but they are still all drugs.

No, it's really not a hard drug. The gateway drug theory only holds any weight because it's not a hard drug. If it were, it would not be the drug that people try before they move on to trying other, harder drugs. Why not ban cigarettes, then? Reinstate prohibition? (lol) Most hard drug users first try tobacco or alcohol, and the majority of them are also smoke cigarettes. And oh, yeah, these things really don't have many (if any) medicinal uses. However, an advantage to legalization- as I have already stated- is that marijuana smokers would not have to buy weed from dealers who also sell harder things, which would decrease access. Dissolving the black market would be very beneficial.

You can't just ban things because people might want to try other more harmful things. Or because they make people less attentive...seriously, let's ban getting fewer than 8 hours a sleep a night, then.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 20 2008, 04:51 PM

yeah nicki covered my response again. i was going to say that it's contradictory to claim it's a hard drug, and then claim it's a gateway drug at the same time.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 20 2008, 05:39 PM

bitch, you need to stfu and hit the blunt, hard drug my ass, acid is a hard ass drug.

Posted by: NoSex Nov 20 2008, 06:00 PM

the price will drop due to the decreased cost of production & distribution & a market model closer to perfect competition. unless, somehow, taxation is stupid as f*ck on it, weed will become substantially cheaper if legalized & sold by firms.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 20 2008, 08:40 PM

if you legalize marijuana the cost will skyrocket for killer weed, and it will be regulated by the government. They want there cut of the profit. dude, rock on or shit, out & under

Posted by: Joss-eh-lime Nov 20 2008, 08:44 PM

dont legalize it because its needed for medical reasons.
it just isnt necessary for a productive society.
yeah a selcect few people actually need it for medical reasons. they most likely will get it for that reason. legalize it and it will be around kids, and people who just dont want to be near it.

Posted by: Hedonism Nov 20 2008, 09:38 PM

Why the hell does this bother you as well ?
You seem needlessly argumentative.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 20 2008, 10:23 PM

and alcohol isnt?

Posted by: paperplane Nov 20 2008, 10:30 PM

So everything legal has to be necessary for a productive society?

Posted by: MiSSP Nov 20 2008, 10:35 PM

They should just legalize it in all states, some states are starting to legalize it anyway for medical use. People are going to get their hands on it regardless so it really doesnt matter.

Posted by: NoSex Nov 20 2008, 10:35 PM

killer weed? i have no idea what you're talking about. like, dank shit? nah dawg, you have no idea what the f*ck you're talking about. the reason any drug is expensive right now is because of the problem of supply - it's a risk to produce & distribute drugs illegally. if the production & sale of drugs is no longer illegal, the risk will disappear, & many more entrepreneurs will enter the market... this will increase competition (& given lower production costs already) & dramatically reduce the price of the product. duh.




you're a heartless bitch. you know what we don't need in a "productive society?" shit heads like you! people who have no compassion whatsoever for his or her fellow human beingsss... even further, people who have no compassion because of their own self-righteous, moronic, & subservient ignorance! you need to read a book!





drug dealers don't check for i.d. you f*cking idiot.



i don't want to be near your dumb ass... but that's just something we all sort of have to deal with in a free country. word up moron.

Posted by: applejaxkz Nov 20 2008, 10:54 PM

Not once did I say anything about tobacco. Sit down and raise your hand next time.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 20 2008, 11:41 PM

she/hes implying that cigarettes are legal and do more damage to you when marijuana isnt

Posted by: kryogenix Nov 20 2008, 11:51 PM

OKAY MISTER TECHNICAL SCHOOL JUST BECAUSE YOURE GETTING A PIECE OF PAPER THAT MEANS JACK SHIT THAT YOU PAID TOO MUCH FOR DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN GO AROUND BOSSING PEOPLE AROUND TELLING THEM TO RAISE THEIR HAND NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU LEAVE DEAD AND BLOODIED ALONG THE WAY, JUST SO LONG AS YOU CAN MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF AS AN INVESTIGATORY JOURNALIST, NO MATTER HOW MANY FRIENDS YOU LOSE OR PEOPLE YOU LEAVE DEAD AND BLOODIED AND DYING ALONG THE WAY.

itt: you're an idiot

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:20 AM

okay just to give you an analogy of how stupid you sound,

CATS are felines
LIONs are felines

you want lions to be let out in the f*cking public? hope this analogy feeds your f*cking brain
does that answer your damn question? all Im insisting is that if you wanted to use marijuana as a legal drug, then just use it properly, dont let it get in the hands of people who are going to abuse it.



the f*cking reason this country is in a economic crisis is BECAUSE of lobbyist demands. Even with GM and chrysler, they try to meet lobbyist demands and they neglect the importance of making cars better. thats why American cars are shitty as hell compared to asian imports. If you want to conform to lobbyist demands, your not going to get jack shit done. Legalizing Marijuana is a f*ckin last minute desperate as hell ditch move, your not making patients healthier, your making them feel better (there is a difference). Its the same thing as cars, while Asian countries and england are advancing in stem cell research, Americans are looking towards marijuana to be their saving grace and while brazil is energy independent and advancing faster then any other country in the world, AMericans are still dependent on OPEC, its the same damn thing, lobbyist dont help the people, they only help money hungry corporations.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 21 2008, 09:26 AM

Calm the f*ck down, neither of those posts were in response to you. The first one was in respone to where Dosomething888 said, "I dont think it should be legalized because it is a drug...I dont want any drugs to be legal. Alcohol and drugs are different. That is why alcohol is legal." So it was far from stupid of me to point out that alcohol is in fact a drug. And that there are plenty of other legal drugs. Seriously, look at the context.

Are you even literate? Pharmaceutical companies lobby AGAINST legalization, because it would decrease their profit, not for the good of the people.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:32 AM

sorry, its just so f*cking frustrating, when I try to make a point, people are always f*cking bashing it, I try to respect everyone's post, but Im not going to be told what to do or be disrespected, and yes Iam literate I must have misunderstood your post, but either way, Im independent on this issue, what Im implying is that if it gets passed, make sure their is a limit of some sort, if it dosent get passed, them oo well.

Posted by: paperplane Nov 21 2008, 09:36 AM

Well, you realize, this is why I picked on your typing. If you want people to understand what you're saying, you need to explain it coherently. But please, don't feed me this crap about not getting respect when you're going out of your way to argue with my perfectly valid points.

If it were to be legalized, there would be an age limit on it, just like alcohol and cigarettes. Dealers don't ID, stores do.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 10:52 AM

that doesn't even make sense in the instances that marijuana would be used for medicine. feeling better is the reason to use it. the legal medicine i take now for my back doesn't make it better, it reduces the pain. it's not making me healthier it's making my life easier. there isn't going to be medicine that is going to make it better, ever, because it'd take spinal surgery.

there's a difference, but it's completely irrelevant in most if not all cases it would be used medically in. it's like saying we shouldn't use pain killers, period, because they aren't healing the problem.

so how's it a desperate as hell ditch move?

Posted by: MiSSP Nov 21 2008, 10:56 AM

How many people can you say actually die from marijuana. None.
Im talking about from the drug itself not the " im going to go jump off a building because i was high" type of death.
And thats why it should be legal so that doctors can prescribe it and give the patient the right amount, level of thc for whatever reason they need it.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 10:58 AM

^seriously. it's stupid as hell. that's why this abuse argument makes no sense to me. you can go abuse the marijuana and it's not going to kill you from just abusing it itself. you can go abuse the medicine they currently assign for most of these medical reasons and you'll f*cking overdose and die.

so it's completely backwards sounding to me to say we shouldn't legalize it becuase it might get abused, even though we have the more dangerous abusive medicine legalized now.

Posted by: MiSSP Nov 21 2008, 11:03 AM

It doesn't even have to be prescribed for people to overdose you can f*cking overdose on some damn ibuprofen.

I just really want to know some reasons why it shouldn't be legalize because the reasons some people are giving on here is ahh let me say bullshit...SO when someone comes up with a reason besides ppl will abuse it and its "BAD" let me kn0 =)

Posted by: heartquasm Nov 21 2008, 11:37 AM

exactly.

i was about to write a long essay about how everybody's reasons were either 1) not correct or 2) stupid. but then decided to get high instead.

jk, but still.

Posted by: mipadi Nov 21 2008, 11:58 AM

What do you mean by this?

Do you mean simply that you don't need marijuana to be productive? Our society manufacturers and sells a lot of things that make life more enjoyable, but don't contribute to productivity. I drink a lot of Mountain Dew. I like Mountain Dew, but it's not necessary for me to be productive. Neither are movies or music, but it sure as hell makes life more fun to have movies to watch and music to listen to. Xboxes aren't necessary to be productive, either, but I sure do enjoy playing the Xbox from time to time.

Then again, if people aren't happy, they aren't going to be productive, either -- so maybe anything that makes people happy is productive. But I digress.

At any rate, I don't mean to make assumptions, but I fear you're implying that anyone who smokes marijuana is unproductive. And that's simply not true. Don't believe the lies: many pot smokers are functional, productive members of society.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 21 2008, 05:59 PM

just to give you remind you, your f*cking incompetent shit stain, how the f*ck can you compare weed to lions? ROFL they are kittens at best, so sit your ass down and suck on daddys cock

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 07:09 PM

read the f*ckin post and fix your incompetent shitty as grammar, then suck your own inexistent cock then talk

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 07:22 PM

you didn't reply to my post of actual content asking you a question about your argument but you replied to his. good job.

Posted by: cakedout Nov 21 2008, 07:29 PM

look whose talking you ugly fat ass f*ck, what, did you accidently swallow all those cocks you sucked? go back to getting off watching your dad jerk off your dog

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 07:38 PM

^^ if you honestly have to revert to sucking cocks as a last minute effort to save yourself from looking like an idiot, then next time just post something relevent to the thread, or just ask for forgiveness, dont go around acting stupid

well marijuana dosent need to be used to get the same effects, as I stated in a post earlier, chemical by products from marijuana are used to make treatment for cancer patients. Also I called it a last minute ditched move because I thought paperplane's post was talking about pharmaceutical companies using lobbying to get marijuana, which if it were pharmaceutical companies actually doing that, then it would look like a desperate move. People already take marijuana legally through cannabis cards, and making marijuana legal to the public would undermine what having a cannabis card actually means, because although I do not have stats, Im pretty sure that although marijuana relieves pain, the people who actually need it is almost close to zero, Im 16 JC and although you said that, if anyone is over 16 and thinks marijuana is "bad" then they are technically immature, I dont think marijuana is as bad as what people think, the only reason why I have issues with marijuana is because 99% of my friends who drop 130 pills (average) found their roots from pot and people who use marijuana are probably going to experiment for a better high and I think the addictive side of it is more dangerous then the technical treatment side of it, which is what I fear because I have personal experience.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 07:48 PM

Wow, do you not enough of a life that you have to carry on telling people to suck your cock? Get over it.

Ya, marajuana doesnt kill people but it has been known to keep people in a slump, keep them from graduating high school cause they are sneaking off to smoke it. And dont even say well .. "If we legalize it they wont have to miss school" cause I can gaurantee that if weed was legalized, they would have to restrict it to homes. No one wants their kids around cigarette smoke, let alone weed smoke. No way we would have people smoking it in parks, in front of movie theatres, around children.

Cigarettes and Marajuana are different. Many people look down on marajuana way more than cigarettes. Cigs have been legalized for a long time and they already have been banned from reataurants and even some bars.

And you think that marajuana would lend to a more functional society? Having marajuana lagalized.. people smoking it on street corners. That will definetely add to the look of the US. Ya, right.

And I really hope paperplane can look past the few grammatical mistakes I did make. God forbid she doesnt understand what I wrote.


And the whole killer weed thing, My dad wrote that. HAHAHA. He thought your guys responses were funny.. he laughed when he read "dawg."

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 07:50 PM

thank you :] you are like the only person who seems to be understanding both sides of anything on createblog :]

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 07:53 PM

why do we need to mess with chemical by products when we can just smoke it and get the effect? i don't to pay for some company to make me some chemical byproducts and charge me 4 times the price when i could just smoke the actual thing and get relief.




i'm still confused about that but i'll go reread you guys conversation on that



it's not legal in all states that i know of...



not really, because of my last statement



why do you think almost zero people need pain relief? how does that make sense?




well i have personal experience with being in pain having to take real addictive drugs! you have personal experience...with weed? or what, i'm confused by what you meant you have personal experience.

i think if you're 16 and you don't understand there are diffferent levels of drugs, then you're immature, yes. that's what i meant. i don't care about your friends though. if your friends do that shit, then they are idiots. no offense, this is just how it is. why do i need to be addicted to pain killer if i could be smoking something way less toxic/addicting/ect just because some idiot kids make bad decisions? who cares about them, they have parents for a reason, they should do their jobs.

i don't care if stupid people make stupid decisions. i don't know why others have to be held back because of that. i don't want to be limited by dumbass kids somewhere i don't know.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 07:55 PM

Oh, wow. Thanks:) I never get positive feedback on here.. okay maybe like once? But I dont remember the instince specifically.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 07:57 PM

i don't think it keeps them in a slump, i think their own personality/self keeps them in one. i've known people who smoke who are normal, fine hardworking people. i think lazy people are lazy in general and will continue to be regardless.

i wouldn't want people smoking it in parks, around children, ect...just like i don't want them smoking cigarettes like that. i'd assume that the same smoking regulations about smoking in public places would apply as they do now to cigarettes. i'd hope so anyway.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 08:00 PM

Ya, I dont agree with you. I think everyone has the same chance of stopping smoking if they want. No one is less lazy or more lazy. They have the choice to get off their ass and go to school or go and get a job. But... some people just like to live with bare minimum and rely on others or the govt. for things.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 08:04 PM

well actually since it is a by product it would be cheaper, because its a by product not a product made from actual marijuana leaves, when I say I have personal experience I mean testing it, but I never did it anymore afterwards, just once, but even adults make stupid decision because not everyone might look at this issue the same way as you and if cannabis cards are not legal in all states then I think this issue should be an issue on the state government level , not national level and I say the zero percent thing, because I believe the developments of modern medicine in other countries and even the US is higher then using marijuana for relief,
(the US only a bit higher). We raise awareness for cancer and raise millions of dollars because we want improvements in modern medicine to end cancer and I simply think that using marijuana is a huge step back because other medicines (might not have as powerful of an effect as marijuana) have already been developed for treatment, and almost everyone on CB probably participated in some event for cancer treatment and or drug awareness, and Im just not trying to be hypocrite by legalizing marijuana, when all my life (after my personal experience) I have been opposing of it.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 08:06 PM

yeah i don't know, i don't think i get what you're whole statement has to do with marijuana though.

did i say everyone didn't have the same chance of stopping smoking? i don't get where that came from, but i do think some people are more lazy than others. i think that's their choice to be that way obviously, but it's still how it is. some people are lazy and some people aren't. if you're a lazy idiot who smokes all the time then that's your choice to be that. it doesn't mean everyone who ever smokes is that way. plenty of smoking people have jobs and don't live off the government...

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 08:06 PM

I just asked my brother is we should legalize it, He said hell yes.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 08:07 PM

Thats true.


I double posted. Sorry. Please dont warn me. Again.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 08:09 PM

i don't think it's a step back though. i'm not saying lets stop all research on medicine and cures and just smoke weed instead. i'm saying why not let people use it as a relief until we have something else? you see what i mean? i'm not saying it's a cure for something or should stop technology. it just seems like if we have it and it works for some people why not let them use that.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 08:15 PM

yea, I wasnt implying lets stop development Im just saying that society has been fine with illegal marijuana up until now, why legalize it now? what would be the difference? because the only people who will actually take marijuana when prescribed to them are going to be the idiots, I know for a fact that if I had a disease and my doctor prescribed marijuana, then I would ask for something different, cause I dont like it and I know its detrimental to my emotional health, even if it improves my physical health.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 08:26 PM

you apparently haven't comprehended basically anything i've said. why legalize it now?

read carefully

BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WANT PAIN RELIEF, ECT, WITHOUT BEING f*ckING PHYSICALLY DEPENDENT ON THEIR CURRENT PRESCRIBED MEDICINE. MARIJUANA IS NOT PHYSICALLY DEPENDENT. THE MEDICINE I TAKE NOW IS MORE DANGEROUS AND ADDICTIVE THAN MARIJUANA. SO, I WOULD BE AN IDIOT APPARENTLY FOR WANTING SOMETHING THAT'S LESS HARMFUL TO ME?


i'm with kevin and nicki now. stfu

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 08:27 PM

Thats a good point. Why legalize it now? I think it is because of how liberal the US is becoming.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 08:32 PM

yeah because something being one way means it should never change.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 08:35 PM

trust me, there are probably many different types of pain relievers that are safer than marijuana,the medicine that these people are taking probably have alternatives, then why not ban the medicine their taking right now? why legalize marijuana insteading of banning what they are currently taking? always trying to find relief instead of actually trying to tackle the issue would be more irrational in my opinion. Also there might be a reason that the FDA approved of whatever medicine your talking about and the reason they approved that medicine and made marijuana illegal is probably not even pointed out in this thread anyways and we are probably arguing over a broad statement without the facts, so for anyone in this thread to call anyone wrong would be irrational.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 08:38 PM

I never said that, Im completely for change like gay marriage, Im not a conservative, unless you can prove to me that there is not a single treatment of relief that is safer then marijuana, then I'm not going to agree with you.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 09:01 PM

I was wondering how long it was gonna take.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 09:08 PM

until what? until i got tired of saying the same thing over and over? it's absolutely ridiculous and missing the point to say all this crap about how we need to prove there is no possible other medicine to use before we let medical patients use something that's not even more harmful than what they are already using.

it makes no sense to have this incredibly high standard for something so lightweight

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:12 PM

well dont you want to support your statements and at least give evidence that marijuana is necessary? it does make sense to have incredibly high standards because not everyone is JC:]

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:15 PM

and obviously if it were lightweight, we wouldnt be having this convo right now

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 09:17 PM

what the f*ck are you talking about?

it doesn't have to be necessary to beneficial. i've given an example f*cking a million times over. it wouldn't be necessary that i use it becuase i have medicine now that i already use, so it's not NECESSARY. but it would be NICE and BENEFICIAL and POSITIVE to use something NOT ADDICTIVE.

why are you so hung up on it having to be NECESSARY as in there isn't any other choice before you're for it.

it is lightweight, that's why it's not ranked as a hard drug. ffs. if you think it's a hard drug you're an idiot, we already went over that.


stop double posting

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:23 PM

how many people is it actually beneficial for? have you ever thought about how many people might not find this beneficial?
if its just nice, is there really a reason to legalize it? no. its nice to the 2% of the population of cancer patients who actually use it.
you have to realize that there is going to be huge opposition which dosent make it a lightweight issue, you honestly dont expect society to agree with you do you? So if we let it pass, you think people are going to go quietly about the issue? Its a wrong move and we all know that, either
a) the government changes everyones perspective about the drug,
or
b) keep the law, the way it is.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 09:30 PM

it's not only for cancer patients....wtf? where the hell did you come up with that

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:32 PM

edit: not limited to cancer patients

Posted by: heartquasm Nov 21 2008, 09:32 PM

What about candy? What's candy good for? All candy does is contribute to the obesity of this already obese country. Is it beneficial? i think not.



You're forgetting about the alcohol Prohibition, aren't you. Read up on your history, son.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 09:36 PM

Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have got to be joking.

Candy is not like a drug in the slightest.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:36 PM

is candy detrimental to your emotional health? I think not
and for alcohol, that was passed after people's perspective of alcohol changed so there was a new normal, as of right now making marijuana legal would startle alot of people, eventually one day marijuana will be legal but right now is to premature (same case as alcolhol) and we are talking about medicinal uses for marijuana, which alcohol and candy have no relationship with.

Posted by: heartquasm Nov 21 2008, 09:40 PM

no we're not. we're talking about legalizing marijuana. nothing in the title or the OP does it says we're talking about marijuana specific to medical cases.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 21 2008, 09:42 PM

exactly, so if marijuana does not have a need to be used for medical cases what does it need to be used for? getting high?

Posted by: heartquasm Nov 21 2008, 09:51 PM

yeah. what's wrong with that? getting high is fun. if you're gonna use that as an argument, maybe you might want to take a second to petition the banning of cigarettes and alcohol while you're at it.

anyways, i'm not going to repeat stuff that's already been said in the thread, as i feel like that's a waste of time.

you complained earlier about people disrespecting you, yeah? maybe if you grew a brain and learned how to read and interpret information and other peoples' arguments, you'd realize that you're going around in circles and just not getting it.

the end.

i'm done. grow up a little before you decide to play with the big kids. thanks.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 21 2008, 09:56 PM

Ya cause the immature ones are staying away from drugs :/

Posted by: Joss-eh-lime Nov 21 2008, 10:10 PM

no..but its not like legalizing marijuana will have benefits..
however, it quite possibly could be detrimental.
what are some legitimate benefits of legalizing it besides "medical" reasons?

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Nov 21 2008, 10:19 PM

read the thread?

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 22 2008, 12:38 AM

just because you have to be immature about the fact that you wont respect the fact that youf post were complete bullshit dosent make anyone a "big kid" get over yourself seriously.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 22 2008, 01:04 AM

1. If we actually lived in a country that was free, then why do we have any leglislation at all, we might as well say murder is beneficial, because we could be killing people who could have been a threat and that would be considered constitutional?

2. The black market is necessary. Mafias and black markets have always played a strategic role to the economy and private industries which is why this country's government hasnt put a stop to it. If we really wanted to destroy the black market, we would have, but they can be beneficial in other ways.

3. 50% is big number which, I do not agree with, but whether they were illegal drug offenders, or illegal computer hackers, there will always be innocent people who are offended of something. Legalizing Marijuana does not get rid of the fact of being at the wrong place at the wrong time, or simply having bad luck, its just reality.

4. I believe stem cell research will be more beneficial, so why was it vetoed?

5. this needless war actually will help stimulate jobs and will help preserve jobs.

6. Thank you for thinking besides just the techincalitites of this debate and rather looking at it as a whole, you make debating fun, not frustrating :]

Posted by: MiSSP Nov 22 2008, 08:54 AM

Erm, because ovbiously some of the medicine that is out isn't helping very much. =)
And pills? no thats not safer than marijuana. You can't overdose on weed, ya dig?

Posted by: mipadi Nov 22 2008, 10:10 AM

Murder is different. If you murder someone, you are encroaching on their right to live. You don't have an inalienable right to unilaterally take away the rights of others. Murder could be beneficial, but we already allow murder in certain specific cases (e.g, self-defense).


Black markets obviously don't pay taxes, so how is this in any way beneficial? I suppose you could say that this market "creates jobs", but it's not like anyone really sees the benefits of such markets. Legalizing marijuana, on the other hand, would generate tax revenue and create jobs. I don't think the creation of jobs is necessarily a compelling reason to legalize marijuana, but claiming that the underground drug market is important for the economy isn't a compelling reason to keep marijuana illegal.


You're missing the point: Most drug offenders are not violent. Most are not threats to society. They're just people who wanted to do something on their own private time, but the government stepped in and arbitrarily decided that they're not allowed to do something that's not harming anyone else. Therefore, we spend millions of dollars (maybe even more -- I don't have statistics handy) and a majority of prison space to imprison people who are no threat. Do we really want -- or need -- to be spending that kind of money to lock these people up? Furthermore, merely prosecuting these cases takes up time and money in the court system which could be better spent addressing "real" cases.


Fallacy of false dilemma: the choice isn't "either we legalize marijuana or we allow support cell research". We could easily do both. For the record, I think we should support stem cell research.


I don't think we need to infringe on the personal rights of Americans in order to create jobs. If jobs are important, legalize marijuana, then use the money saved from fighting it, and the money saved from incarcerating non-violent drug offenders, and use it to build dams or bridges or roads, or remodel schools, or develop alternative energy sources, or something else that will create jobs and be helpful to society.

Posted by: Aberisk Nov 22 2008, 11:18 AM

thank you for answering my questions, thats all I needed :] and actually about the black market, its not beneficial to society directly, its beneficial to private industries who use then for support, which in turn out government will use private industries. As a family who owns buisnesses, I have always been taught that black markets play a crucial role in making bigger fortune 500 companies survive along with the mafia, catch me please if Im wrong. and for innocent drug offenders: Yes they are doing it on their own time, but I wouldnt plead them 100% innocent, there would have been a reason these people appealed to police and all Im saying is that whether we legalized marijuana or not, something is always going to be illegal that people are going to want to do it and in turn there will always be innocent people in prisons, not just drug offenders. As for stem cell research, I just thought that is anything was going to be legalized, we should legalize that first, but your correct and I agree about passing stem cell research

Posted by: cakedout Nov 22 2008, 09:25 PM

BItch stfu you donkey f*cking ass licker

Posted by: applejaxkz Nov 22 2008, 09:43 PM

You're so cute with your caps lock. And what the f*ck are you even talking about lol. "Raise your hand" next time. ROFL

Posted by: heartquasm Nov 22 2008, 10:20 PM

go watch zoolander

/edit and stop spamming, you assholes.

Posted by: Hedonism Nov 22 2008, 10:44 PM

I think it's quite selfish for people to prohibit the use of marijuana for medicinal reasons, because "pills are safer".
Wtf seriously?

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 23 2008, 03:56 AM

why havent you been warned?
Your warning level deserves to be at like 99.9% and then it can get to 100% and you will be blocked from posting. That would be awesome.

Posted by: kryogenix Nov 23 2008, 04:02 AM

Aww does your pussy wussy hurty wurty?

Posted by: cakedout Nov 23 2008, 07:19 AM

stfu ou ugly pile of bull dung, i wanna take a dunmp on your chest and make you suck the fart outta my annnus

Posted by: giraffe Nov 23 2008, 07:26 AM

go jerk off to twilight. lol wtf is dis. a band of ugree people

Posted by: tyrocks00 Nov 25 2008, 02:21 PM

no question it should be legal. why shouldnt it be? havent heard a good argument for it

Posted by: Joss-eh-lime Nov 26 2008, 04:29 PM

actually, alcohol is even more detrimental than marijuana.
so instead of legalizing weed, we can just ban alcohol and call it a day!

Posted by: paperplane Nov 27 2008, 12:41 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_alcohol

yeah f*cking right

Posted by: dosomethin888 Nov 27 2008, 08:45 PM

You cant be serious.

Posted by: Joss-eh-lime Nov 28 2008, 01:32 AM

^half joking, half serious.

Posted by: NoSex Nov 28 2008, 03:02 PM

if your argument is that weed is harmful to society & the individual... you have to recognize that, statistically, alcohol consumption is exceedingly more harmful for both &, as such, should be banned.

Posted by: dafto Dec 1 2008, 01:04 AM

I agree with the alcohol comment.

It is a proven fact you can die from consuming too much alcohol, never once has anyone overdosed on weed.... just saying.

as far as legalizing it, it's a great idea. It would do so much for the economy. Marijuana is a highly untapped industry that so many partake in, if taxed, the government would make billions, thus helping to alleviate the economy in this time of need.

Everything is fine in moderation, and it being put to use to alleviate pain in medical situations is far safer than say something like oxycotin or vicodin or valium.

Posted by: alison-apples Dec 1 2008, 11:03 PM

...

I didn't read through this all. I didn't care to.

I've done it before. It's not the best. I don't do it often at all, I don't even like doing it.

All I know is that it's safer than cigarettes, safer than alcohol, and a lot safer than many prescription medications.

It's beneficial to some, a form of escapism for others (internet and WoW being other, less productive forms of escapism,) and something others would just keep out of their lives.

Teenagers would probably be less likely to do it if it wasn't illegal. The illegality of it is tempting in itself.

Yes, there should be an age limit.

But it's harmless compared to some of the stuff that's legal here.

Posted by: kryogenix Dec 2 2008, 09:43 AM

I hope you choke.

Posted by: alison-apples Dec 2 2008, 07:37 PM

I'll try. ;]

Posted by: Comptine Dec 13 2008, 09:57 PM

Weed got decriminalized in MA. That means, instead of going to jail for processing it, you get fined. Now, it's a civil matter.

Kinda. Smoking weed actually INCREASES your chances of cancer and various diseases. However, since most people don't smoke it as consistently as cigarettes, the effects are diminished.

If marijuana was legalized, the government can have a claim on its production and growth. Which means, all those drug dealers that are offering weed would probably go out of business since people can just go to a store to pick it up. In addition, the product itself would be kind of healthy. On the streets, weed gets cut with a host of different things, which increases its toxicity.

Legalizing it would also generate a whole new bulk of revenue. Either through government production or through the elimination of the incredibly wasteful manpower/resources we spend by sending law enforcement out to capture marijuana dealers/growers/users. Also, government production can control how much THC is in the actual weed. So people can still smoke it but the mental effects could be decreased.

And as for medical marijuana, it has less harmful side effects than other prescription pain killers. Marijuana won't be used as a miracle drug. It's mostly pain relief, as Brooklyneast pointed out. In the proper dosages, the psychological addiction effects are lowered.

Posted by: goingbananas Dec 21 2008, 02:50 AM

Can someone please explain to me if I carry around marijuana in my hand, it is illegal, but if I have a prescription for marijuana, it's okay?

Posted by: MolecularStudios Dec 21 2008, 02:37 PM

Its legal in California if you have terminal cancer or some other terminal disease.
It supposedly dulls the nausea of chemo, and gets your appetite back again.

Posted by: cakedout Dec 21 2008, 05:01 PM

i can say my back and wrists hurt from my doctor and automatically get a 6 month write up for marijuana, you dont need cancer

Posted by: goingbananas Dec 22 2008, 05:20 AM

who is that guy on your siggie?
what is his name?
where can i find him?
lmfao!!!

Posted by: blueragedesigns Dec 23 2008, 04:12 AM

I agree. I don't personally smoke. (I used to).
But I know a shit load of people that do it. A few family members, mates etc.

There's nothing wrong with it. If it where to be legalized then yes, it would be setting innocent people free. As someone said previously.
On some people it has a bad effect. But they abuse it.
My idiot boyfriend thinks that people get agro on it. But it's the opposite. Apparently (According to my brother, who is an unreliable source) There have been no deaths due to being wasted aside from bad reactions. Yet if you look at the death toll / *Bad things that happen* in accordance with alcohol, well, There are categories Drink driving, Random street brawls, family violence (Although to be fair you don't have to be drunk to be a wanker mother / father / uncle / aunt etc etc). And people look at Marijuana as a worse substance? It's so stupid. The govt would make money on tax for it (Like they did with making prostitution legal (I'm from NZ )) So I still don't really see the problem. It'd stop money being wasted on paying for the people who "Broke the law" by carrying it and going to court, have hearings etc, paying for their "accommodation" (Jail(which btw they get sky (Cable) Which I don't get even))). So it's a win win. They make money, stop losing so much by paying for the court trails etc, and we get to smoke / eat / drink for what ever reason people do it for.

Btw it also has healing properties. On cancer. Something about cancer of the eye.. I think. Don't take my word on it. But it DOES have healing properties on something that's very unwanted.

Posted by: blueragedesigns Dec 23 2008, 04:24 AM

That's only on some people. Personally I think it did that to me. Hence why I stopped. But my mum used to be a heavy smoker, before she had me. And somewhat after. (She's the bestest mum ever, don't judge her she's not like one of 'em druggie parents, she had jobs etc, cleaned cooked a normal person, just did smoked before she went to bed or before she went out)
And her memory is way better then mine. So it doesn't ruin *everyone's* memory.

Posted by: Willzors Dec 24 2008, 08:21 AM

You must realize that legalizing marijuana is not a simple cut and dry issue like a lot of teens might think because most of them think about "lol drugs are cool let's legalize weed and 420 all day everyday" and not much further from that

You know, the "weed doesn't kill people and is safer than alcohol" stuff is getting old and I've heard this argument a million times and I'm sure you have too. That's great, but let's take one step further

I didn't vote republican or democrat but instead I voted libertarian this year. I'm not really here to push you to vote libertarian but talking about the legalization of marijuana does involve politics and one of the stands that libertarians have is to basically decriminalize all drugs. Here are a couple theoretical results of this action:

1. Crime/gang violence reduces significantly: In most cases, a gang, crime mob, or mafia's main export is drugs. Prohibition is what created organized crime, and the same thing applies to The War On Drugs. When we take away these laws then organized crime is severely reduced.
2. Free up prison room for real criminals: Do you know someone who's in prison for possession of marijuana? Lifting these laws makes up more room for real bad people, like murderers.
3. Economic income/more jobs: Drug taxing is likely, and if drugs were legal then it would create jobs for those to create, monitor, and regulate those drugs

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=213602&view=findpost&p=3082776 wrote about this and he's pretty much on the ball as the result of a lift on marijuana, but the same thing applies to laws on drugs in general.

Getting back to this particular thread at hand, a lot of you guys have posted medical cases of the usefulness of marijuana during chemotherapy. That's great as it supports its use, but it really doesn't matter. Alcohol doesn't do a damn thing when consumed except increase chances of car accidents and doing other reckless things (either by using alcohol as the excuse or the fact that it lowers your inhibitions), but it's great when it comes to cleaning wounds. The point is, if enough people want it, they will get it. I think it's something called 'democracy' and I believe it's been around for a while

Give more thought on this topic because it's a wet dream to many teenagers but you should look at it from an economical and realistic standpoint also.

Posted by: blueragedesigns Dec 27 2008, 09:50 PM

Mmm I am a teenager myself. Not all teenagers think like that, btw what is 420? :O
I don't vote. I'm under 18 (obv) but I wouldn't vote just because a party was going to legalize it. :L That's silly.

I agree with you, not a lot of teenagers or adult think like you do, as in freeing up jail space / not as much gang fights or w/e. They do just wanna legilizse it for the sake of smoking when ever they like.

My b/f for example thinks that it won't help the system in any way. At all. >.< There's no way I can beat it into him that if it was legalized it'd help with a lot of things.
Perhaps I should show him this post and show him I'm not an idiot who thinks crap stuff that won't work. :L

Posted by: Stuckie Dec 28 2008, 06:28 AM

I say they should legalize marijuana to an extent. Legalize it for people that need it for medical use. But legalizing it as a whole wont do much for the economy.

Posted by: dosomethin888 Dec 28 2008, 03:02 PM

Because it is prescribed, therefore it is legal. Without a prescripton, its illegal. Thats why.

Legalizing marijuana would just produce a ton more people who laze around and do nothing all day while they could be making something of themselves and helping out society in a positive way. Its already hard enough trying to control the idiot drunk drivers on the road and the binge drinking and alcohol poisoning in the US today. But banning alcohol is never gonna happen, people wouldnt have it. Legalizing marajuana would force us to have more regulation so we dont have people toking up in front of kids and driving while smoking it which causes most people to be less aware. If people just stopped being so addictive about everything and maybe smoke one or two joints a week instead of all day long, maybe I wouldnt be so against it being legalized. But if it were legalized, you know people would take too much advantage of it and do nothing with their time and become slugs.

Posted by: Tomates Dec 28 2008, 04:14 PM

If its perscription use then its medical marijuana but doctors only give it to patience who have cancer or other potential terminal diseases. So you cant just go up to your doctor and say "hey assign me medical marijuana". Though even then doctors dont have to perscribe medical marijuana even if they have a cancer patient. The medical marijuana bill recently got passed in my state and i was talking to my mom about it, she works internal medicine, and she said that a lot of doctors especially in her office dont believe in the use of it and she has even had trouble giving her patients just regular drugs because they are afraid to get addicted to it.

I personally find the bill, cant remember what it was initially called, stupid and my student teacher proved it when he said that he saw a grungy looking guy eith dreads (also kids in my class have recognized him also smoking weed) trying to get people sign the petition to legalize it. I mean to me its just another way for some people to abuse it. Also before people jump at me for this...im aware it can ease the pain and increase appitite for sick patients but when people abuse it thats just wrong. I also had a student in my class who had cancer and when we were on the subject she even said "I already had a ton of drugs in me when i had cancer, that last think i would have wanted is another drug to add to it." Also i remember a kid saying "I hope it gets legalized!" which also kinda proves that it will be abused

That was lengthy but i just wanted to let that out.

Posted by: TBoltzbabe Dec 28 2008, 06:15 PM

Marijuana is the most easily obtained illegal substance in the United States. Everyone who is living in the real world has the choice whether to smoke or not. People that wish they could smoke weed don't abstain from it just because it's illegal. People that don't smoke weed choose not to, not because it is illegal, but because they are against the concept of drugs. You never hear the argument, "Don't smoke weed, it's not allowed!!" you hear people say, "Don't smoke weed, you'll become stupid, lazy, etc., etc., etc." That being said, legalizing it, I suspect, will NOT increase the number of pot smokers significantly in this country.

As for people "becoming lazy and slugs," what do you think the United States stands for? Do you imagine that our country is filled with millions of hard-working, intelligent people? No! Americans spend hours in front of the tv, playing video games, and glued to their computers. I think video games are absurd, and I find it ridiculous that it's the favorite past-time of our country. But I don't fault people who do play them, because it's their leisure time, and what they choose to do with it isn't up to me. It doesn't affect me or anyone other than themselves, which is why I don't care.

Marijuana being legal would solve more problems than it would create, but since we are in a mostly conservative, progress-fearing country, I fear that this will never happen. Instead of penalizing those for driving and smoking, or smoking in front of minors, state resources go towards catching and penalizing people who smoke it in the first place. It's not very effective, nor does it address the real problems smoking marijuana causes. It's sort of similar to why prohibition ended; the government discovered that people will drink regardless of whether or not it is legal, and that it being illegal actually caused more crime, most notably--organized crime.

Posted by: JosephCohen123 Jan 7 2009, 08:01 PM

Has anyone taken into consideration that any drug kills your brain cells and will eventually most likely kill you too! Even smoking can kill you! No it should not be legalized! America is such a great country because so there is so little drug dealing going on (compared to other countries.)

Look what opium did to America. It was one of the first drugs and it started a war and killed many many people. and many people tried to smuggle and trade it illegally and it go America no where!

Its illegal for a reason! Because if it wasnt illegal it would weaken america and possibly send it into turmoil.

I think all drugs should be avoided. I know of many people who have become addicted to prescribed drugs and they no wish they had taken them in a much smaller moderation.

When I get sick I dont take any medicine. Even when I have a headache. Its my bodies way of saying rest until it goes away. If I cover it up then it will just make me worse.

Drugs of any kind are unnecessary.

Posted by: brooklyneast05 Jan 7 2009, 08:10 PM

that's completely ridiculous. read this thread and then come back and say half that shit.

Posted by: Willzors Jan 7 2009, 08:18 PM

So let's not legalize marijuana but we will keep TOBACCO and most especially NICOTINE, because America legalized that stuff so it must be safe

But statistically:

People killed from tobacco-related causes in the 20th century: About 100 million

When was the last time you heard of someone dying from marijuana overdose

Posted by: 9001 Jan 7 2009, 08:22 PM

Aspirin has a better chance of killing you than marijuana.

Posted by: Comptine Jan 7 2009, 09:38 PM

You don't get it do you? Just because it's legalized, doesn't mean people can use it without abandon.

Once it's legalized, it'll fall under government control. That means there are laws dictating how much can be sold at once, who can buy/sell it, where/when someone smoke/use it. There also will be laws dictating how/where it can be grown.

You aren't going to have what's happening now. Cartels in Mexico running the business, using guns and violence to further their drug business. Drug dealers recruiting kids to do petty weed sales and those kids getting sent to jail for the same amount of time as a murderer for distributing some weed. Drug dealers are notorious for cutting toxic materials into drugs (not just weed alone) to boost the high-inducing factors or to pad the wait.

The government can stand to make MILLIONS. In NY state, our government makes a shitload on taxes on cigarettes. If the government to cash in our weed production, it's certainly an incentive.

Drugs of any kid are unnecessary? Vaccines are a form of medication. They are the reason why most of America doesn't contract polio or measles or any other "conquered" diseases. You get an infection and get a fever, most likely you would need antibiotics to fight the infection or else you risk frying your brain or dying. You have cancer you need drugs. You can't just sleep it off.

Posted by: IWontRapeYou Jan 7 2009, 09:48 PM

Even I know that is incredibly stupid. Go say that to someone who just had there head smashed open, there leg snapped in half, or is going have to go through months of crippling pain from cancer treatments.

IMO opium =/= weed

People who smoke weed are getting sentenced years in prison in some cases. They are being sent to a place with people who have done real shit. That for me should be enough reason to decriminalize it.

Posted by: KINGdinguhling Jan 8 2009, 04:49 AM

man....you = dumbass

Posted by: Stuckie Jan 8 2009, 11:53 AM

Thats a very unintelligent way of looking at it. Legalizing a drug wont send people into total chaos. Lack of intelligence and ignorance sends people into chaos. Judging from your comment, I'd say your on the forefront to a new and chaotic tomorrow.

Yes, I like the word chaos.

Posted by: kryogenix Jan 8 2009, 12:36 PM

For real. Even though it's been covered in this thread (or has it?), I will respond to him!


Bingo


B I N G O


And Bingo was her name-oooo



Okay I started underlining and bolding and stuff, but then it turned out to be too much to do.

1. Weed does not kill brain cells. Weed does not make you dumb. What does smoking weed do to hurt you? Smoking. Same thing cigarettes do, minus all that extra whatever they decide to toss in to surprise you. Weed does not effect your brain, only the particulates that go into your lungs.

BUT GUESS WHAT!? The human body has this amazing ability to oh... heal! Why do people smoke weed? To get high. People have absolutely no use to smoke weed like people smoke cigarettes. You use it briefly to attain that high then you're done smoking (unless you're Kevin)! So hmm, a little bit of smoke which the body can heal and THC which doesn't kill brain cells is clearly going to kill you.

Opium is man made, weed is AU NATURAL MOTHER f*ckER! It's illegal because society has imposed a stigma upon weed and for generations it has been viewed as this naughty terrible thing to do.

If it wasn't illegal, less people would be in jail for pointless reasons, it could be regulated, and well, it could be one more item the government could impose a tax on and profit from instead of spending tax payer dollars to imprison these individuals and keep them there using oh, tax payer dollars.

So to sum it up for you:

Weed will not kill you
Legalizing weed is beneficial to all
You should do a little research

Posted by: JosephCohen123 Jan 10 2009, 12:42 PM

Well I didnt know that did I!
I thought yall were saying that everything would be the same but it wouldnt be illegal to do it. Cause just even more kids would do it.

Posted by: Comptine Jan 11 2009, 02:47 PM

^I didn't get your second sentence at all.

Posted by: Stuckie Jan 13 2009, 06:24 AM

As I said before. You are on the forefront to a new and chaotic tomorrow.

Posted by: paperplane Jan 14 2009, 05:28 PM

Then why are you bothering to post on a subject you're so clearly ignorant about?

Posted by: doughnut Jan 15 2009, 08:09 AM

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html

they're not exactly harmless.



although, the legalization of personal use of marijuana may not have directly affected the accident rates.



so, i guess long term usage is just bad, like usual.



there you go.



lol yay.

Posted by: KINGdinguhling Jan 16 2009, 04:59 PM

man all this talks just makes me wanna...

Posted by: illmortal Feb 25 2009, 09:34 AM

Propaganda. Marijuana has no negative side effects other than TWO (2) allergic reactions. Dry mouth and red eyes. It's been proven over and over and over again that you cannot over dose, you cannot get cancer, in fact marijuana has proven to stop lung cancer, asthma, brain tumors, help with pain for those who take chemotherapy, arthritis, fever reducer, natural appetite booster, natural sleep aid, natural muscle relaxer, natural stress reliever, helps people with ADD/ADHD, also people with Alzheimer's disease. AND MUCH MORE.

Please dear God read independent studies and stop being brain washed by a bunch of racist assholes.


Here, learn something: http://jackherer.com/

Oh and California's legalizing marijuana and Texas supposedly is decriminalizing marijuana.

Posted by: Comptine Feb 25 2009, 07:18 PM

Weed isn't as dangerous as everyone says it is but there are still dangers. Weed still produces tar and damages your lungs. However, people usually don't develop cancer or other lung diseases because they cannot smoke it as consistently as cigarettes.

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Feb 25 2009, 07:21 PM

Marijuana is just like soda to me.

Posted by: kryogenix Feb 25 2009, 07:22 PM

it's not that they cannot, it's that they don't need to. people smoke pot to get high, not to chain smoke, and the numbers you need to produce the damage to your lungs simply doesn't result from smoking pot. also with pot there are numerous ways to smoke it, many much cleaner than cigarettes

Posted by: Comptine Feb 25 2009, 07:24 PM

That's what I meant by they cannot smoke consistently. People can smoke packs of cigarettes in one day. That would equate to pounds of weed which seems excessive since you do get high from weed and it lasts longer than nicotine.

Posted by: illmortal Feb 26 2009, 12:16 PM

Wrong. Marijuana produces, "resin". An organic material that dissipates and while doing so, also takes/picks up tar from tobacco (thus cleaning the lungs from tobacco tar if you're a cigarette/tobacco smoker). What you need to understand is that tobacco tar and marijuana resin are completely two different things.

Tobacco tar is a mixture of burned chemicals, artificial chemicals that is.

Marijuana resin on the other hand doesn't have artificial chemicals.

If you were to purchase those natural cigarettes which is just strictly natural tobacco with no chemicals added such as nicotine and other carcinogenic compounds ( which by the way, the typical cigarette has about 4,000 chemicals mixed into the tobacco. Unlike Marijuana which only has 1 natural active ingredient, "THC"), then you wouldn't have to worry about lung cancer. Because it's not the tobacco itself, it's the chemicals being added into tobacco that causes lung cancer.


Wrong again, there's people who smoke 10+ joints a day every day and have been smoking this way for 20+ years. IF anything, it is the "paper" that is being used to roll up marijuana that could ever cause any lung issues. But if marijuana was smoked directly from a pipe/bong/hookah, no way in hell would it harm you, unless you have a serious and rare allergic reaction from marijuana.




Also you CANNOT equate cigarettes to joints. The only thing they have in common is the joint paper... that's it. Marijuana and cigarette tobacco is like comparing apples and oranges. One is chemically induced/engineered and the other is natural. You can say that 10 packs of cigarettes equal 1 marijuana joint... ok and how does it equate? You can't get high from cigarettes, at least not in the same sense as marijuana... they both taste different, they're both harvest/produced differently. So what exactly are we equating? Marijuana has been proven over and over again that it cannot cause lung cancer. It's impossible.. the resin a lone in your lungs doesn't even stay in your lungs, resin doesn't build up like tobacco tar because it's the chemicals in the tobacco that makes the tar build up in your lungs. Unlike resin, it easily breaks up.

Posted by: jcp Feb 26 2009, 12:34 PM

I think they should legalize it but only for the purpose of energy and whatother things it can make. Not getting high.

Posted by: illmortal Feb 26 2009, 12:41 PM

This is also a false statement. Marijuana DECREASES your chances of cancer(s) and even diminishes certain diseases. I advise you to at least research marijuana studies and stop misinforming people. That's the primary problem with Americans in the first place, misinformation about almost everything that has ever existed are accepted with opened arms.

Posted by: Comptine Feb 26 2009, 05:37 PM

Before you call me wrong, maybe you should realize that there is as much pro-weed propaganda as there is anti-weed propaganda. I actually support legalizing marijuana but I think it's stupid to have such blind faith in something or try to make it seem harmless.

Lighting up a joint will still produce smoke that will end up in your lungs, which is a very sensitive organ. The smoke will cause damage to the lungs. No matter how you go around it, smoking anything is bad for you because smoke will be produced. While the smoke from weed has been called "cleaner" and less harmful than tobacco smoke, there are some studies that have inconclusive data that show there is an INCREASED amount damage from weed. So, I am sorry for not reading the studies YOU do. And I'll advise you to not emulate weed as some miracle substances that can solve a ton of medical problems. I think the harms of weed are grossly exaggerated but there are dangers especially since there are contradicting studies.

Posted by: BOSS Feb 26 2009, 05:42 PM

let me guess you read a random article that says weed prevents cancer? you know how many studies there are and how many how claims are made? you cant trust everything you read

Posted by: NoSex Feb 26 2009, 05:54 PM

you have to ruin everything, don't you?

Posted by: mipadi Feb 26 2009, 06:45 PM

There actually was a pretty prominent study recently that showed that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm. Strange, I know, but if you read why, it makes sense.

But marijuana can also http://aids.about.com/b/2009/02/19/marijuana-use-linked-to-increased-testicular-cancer-risk.htm, too.

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Feb 26 2009, 06:48 PM

gg kevin

Posted by: Comptine Feb 26 2009, 10:22 PM

I guess that means girls can smoke it up more than guys.

Posted by: paperplane Feb 26 2009, 11:12 PM

I guess that's the tradeoff for being able to drink less.

Posted by: BOSS Feb 27 2009, 02:09 AM

Cutting the growth in half =/= reduces the chances of lung cancer. Would you agree that you are better off not smoking at all?

Posted by: mipadi Feb 27 2009, 10:39 AM

There's this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=marijuana+lung+cancer that can allow you to search for more details on whatever you want, but http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html is another article that goes more in-detail, and here's http://pimpinturtle.com/2009/02/10/marijuana-cuts-lung-cancer-tumor-growth-in-half-study-shows.aspx suggesting that marijuana may actually be a therapy for lung cancer.

So research suggests that marijuana might actually help fight lung cancer. But marijuana also can cause other problems (such as in the increased risk of testicular cancer), so maybe it's not such a great thing.

Then again, what do you mean by "better off"? Smoking pot can be, well, fun. And I adhere strongly to the belief that nothing in moderation is bad.

I mean, I'd be better off not riding in a car, right? Because there are way more traffic fatalities every year than deaths from smoking pot. I'd be better off not drinking soda from plastic bottles, or eating margarine, too, because both of those may cause cancer. But I still do it.

Posted by: illmortal Feb 27 2009, 10:52 AM

So can sex.

Posted by: illmortal Feb 27 2009, 11:09 AM

Marijuana by itself... out of a pipe or a bowl or bong... CANNOT put you in any form of risk in lung cancer. And I can emulate marijuana as some miracle substance that can in FACT solve a ton of medical problems.

Are you bi-polar? Smoke marijuana
Have glaucoma? Smoke marijuana
Have asthma? Smoke marijuana
Need to quit smoking cigarettes because it's indagering your health and it's a horrible addiction? Smoke marijuana because it'll even clean your lungs out from the tobacco tar.
Have ADD/ADHD? Smoke marijuana
Are you in chemotherapy and having horrible pain plus cannot hold food down? Smoke marijuana
Have a lot of stress? Smoke marijuana
Have lack of appetite? Smoke marijuana
Having muscle spasms or muscular pain? Smoke marijuana
Have a fever? Smoke marijuana
Need a sleep aid? Smoke marijuana
Have Parkinson's disease? Smoke marijuana
Have Alzheimer's disease? Smoke marijuana
Have lung cancer? Smoke marijuana
Have a brain tumor? Smoke marijuana
Have multiple sclerosis? Smoke marijuana
Have damaged brain cells? Smoke marijuana
Have any form of neurological disorder? Smoke marijuana
Have a horrible hang over and feel nausea? Smoke marijuana

lol Would you like me to keep going? I've studied some of the greatest strains of marijuana in a chem lab. Independent research/study > mainstream. I wish I had a scanner, I'd scan my whole Chem research Journal up in here just to prove my stance on marijuana. Look up USA today, NY time, LA times, the Herald etc... they've all had articles about marijuana being the miracle herb.

Posted by: BOSS Feb 27 2009, 02:35 PM

ARE YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OR YOURSELF, its ok Nadal, I smoke more weed than you do. But, you gotta admit, moderated or not, its better not to smoke than to smoke.

Posted by: RoyalSwagger Jun 11 2009, 02:49 PM

yes marijuana should be legalized you are stupid if you think it shouldN'T

I dont smoke but there are so many reason why it should be legalized

if the government can find some fare way to tax it it can bring millions even BILLIONS of dollars into our economy
and thats what we need right now...

marijuana doesn't kill people like alcohol does... nobody has ever died from smoking weed but yet MILLIONS of people die every year from alcohol.

so yea it would help fix the economy and nobody would get hurt from it... and plus I found the people who smoke weed are more responsible then people who just drink all the time.

Posted by: emberfly Jun 11 2009, 02:59 PM

WUT?

Posted by: ley Jun 11 2009, 03:20 PM

Wow! So I am not going to pretend i read all of this thread. Its pretty long, but i did read alot. I thought i would point out that medical marijuana is not smoked. They dont just let you roll up a joint. Its in pillform just like many other medicines. I dont see the big deal of it getting leagalized. If people are going to use it in a stupid way they are going to do it regardless of if it is legal or not.

Posted by: sugarjunkie- Aug 2 2009, 11:55 AM

Legalize it! Have any of you seen the documentary about marijuana on the history channel?
Marijuana was illegalized because apparently they thought in the 1930s if you smoked marijuana you became a homicidal maniac, which is completely untrue and a ridiculous claim. The media began scaring people and convincing them that marijuana was a incredibly dangerous "drug".

Believe me, I've smoked a lot of weed and I've never had the urge to hurt any one. The only con of marijuana is that I do get lazy and become unmotivated to do things........ but doesn't being hung over have the same effect? You just feel like SHIT. that's the only difference really. marijuana is fantastic

It's completely harmless. Less harmless than alcohol. Alcohol use to be illegal in like the 1920s, but they had to legalize it because of the fallen economy and that is exactly what they are considering about doing now with marijuana and I'm definitely for it :)

Posted by: sugarjunkie- Aug 2 2009, 11:58 AM

oh my god. -_________-
Medical marijuana can be smoked out of a bong, pipe, joint, swisher.
you can even buy edibles and candy.
and i SUPPOSE you can get it in pill form.

Posted by: drinksmokefuck Aug 22 2009, 04:30 PM

the f*ck are you talkin about, have you ever been to a cannabis club

Posted by: fire Aug 22 2009, 08:39 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/world/americas/21mexico.html?bl&ex=1251086400&en=7b8813abc5344a95&ei=5087%0A

Posted by: mipadi Aug 22 2009, 08:51 PM

Posted by: emberfly Aug 22 2009, 09:10 PM

What font is that? ^ It's really pretty.

Posted by: Tramatize Aug 22 2009, 09:25 PM

yup they have pills, and they're strong as f*ck

Posted by: emberfly Aug 22 2009, 09:40 PM

They're*




I always hear rumors about Obama planning to legalize Marijuana.

I never believe them.

Posted by: Tramatize Aug 23 2009, 10:10 AM

Thanks, i always forget to fix the their/they're/there's when i type. lol

and Obama has already talked about the rumors and said he isn't going to legalize it. =/

Posted by: sighter Jul 16 2010, 12:18 PM

Your an idiot. If weed ever had to be legalized, the same rules applied to alcohol would be applied to weed. for example, 1) No drinking in public - No smoking weed in public. 2) No drinking and driving - No smoking and driving etc. I smoke weed and i prefer it from drinking, why? ill tell you. 1) alcohol effects your judgement, makes you violent, people talk the biggest load of bullshit ever, your confidence level goes up way too high and you think you are the best at for example, driving your car like a Nas car racer ( i know you americans love that stupid sport ) and you end up crashing your car and kill many people in the process, you have blackouts from drinking too much alcohol - that must be a sign that alcohol does more damage to your body than weed. And how the f*ck is it a gateway drug? i've been smoking it for about 3 years now, and never touch another drug eg acid/E in my life, why? ill tell you again, because i have self control, the people who go onto other drugs eg acid/E/coke are people who can't control themselves, its a human flaw and they fall into peer pressure and do it because they think its cool!?!?! f*cking twats!! I Past high school with a 65% average and now at college im getting a 80 - 90% average for my course, SO f*ck YOU RETARD for saying weed has an effect on your studies! I hate people who discriminate weed because they were told "ah its bad for u, its a gateway drug bla bla bla" have you ever smoked it? no? then dont act like you know how it is bad for you! and if it had to be legalized, like others have said, less harmful drugs will be taken because you cut out the middle man ( dealer ) and it will cost less . And weed is a natural pant that grows on planet earth, no chemical process has to be done to it before you can use it unlike heroine and ALCOHOL!!

Posted by: serotonin Jul 16 2010, 01:10 PM

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Jul 16 2010, 08:21 PM

Posted by: aflyingcumshot Jul 16 2010, 09:25 PM

weed is a gateway drug






















































gate to the moon

Posted by: ButtsexV2 Jul 16 2010, 09:28 PM

sorry, that was bothering me. it was both grammatically incorrect and ironic

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Jul 16 2010, 10:56 PM

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Posted by: aflyingcumshot Jul 18 2010, 02:00 PM

without weed, there would be no

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Aug 4 2010, 03:11 AM

jesus christ the first couple pages of this thread was basically a bunch of middle schoolers debating against college students, not to mention it was funny as f*ck to read

Posted by: spambot Aug 4 2010, 04:00 AM

No wonder. Shit, my school wouldn't let us pass 5th grade without going through a 4 month "weed is bad" class. Where I learned if I smoke weed I will drive a car off a building into a group of people and die. and mix pregnancy and suicide somewhere in there.

Posted by: ArjunaCapulong Aug 4 2010, 04:04 AM

wow you're still up

Posted by: spambot Aug 4 2010, 04:10 AM

yeah. 430-5 is my bedtime mang.

Posted by: serotonin Aug 4 2010, 08:02 AM

also you drive cars into little girls. the best way to get out of that one is steal the bike she was on

Posted by: Tomates Aug 4 2010, 09:34 AM

They seriously told you that?

Posted by: StuckInAMoshPit Aug 4 2010, 05:07 PM

^ I was told almost the same thing.

Posted by: spambot Aug 4 2010, 05:45 PM

It was an over exaggeration, but in the end that is all it was. That is all it ever is. These f*cking "live above the influence" commercial and shit.

Posted by: aflyingcumshot Aug 4 2010, 07:49 PM

well, you were in the 5th grade, do you really think you can understand cannabinoid receptors and neurotransmitters?

Posted by: spambot Aug 4 2010, 08:13 PM

They just need to be more realistic that's all. Granted they aren't as bad as they used to be.

Posted by: aflyingcumshot Aug 4 2010, 08:50 PM

as much as i want to agree with you, i think as a parent, to say drugs arent that bad is kind of sending the wrong message, cause you give a kid a candy bar and he wants the entire box, that sort of thing

Posted by: StuckInAMoshPit Aug 5 2010, 02:06 PM

^ [to me at least] it should be along the same lines as alcohol; you grow up knowing that underage drinking is bad, the main issue is 'how much' and 'how often'. If you teach them to use it responsibly, it wouldn't be as much of a problem.

Posted by: aflyingcumshot Aug 5 2010, 03:16 PM

alcohol is much worse

Posted by: futura Oct 19 2010, 09:10 PM

I don't understand anyone's reasoning as to why it shouldn't be legalized.

Posted by: ButtsexV2 Oct 19 2010, 09:33 PM

the only even remotely valid point I've heard is the whole gateway drug thing, but in all honesty I think if they make it legal it will be just as much a gateway drug as tobacco. The way I see it, the gateway drug issue comes not from wanting harder drugs, but wanting to do something more dangerous or more illegal.

Posted by: Simba Oct 20 2010, 04:34 AM

Posted by: spambot Oct 20 2010, 02:29 PM

hippies. all of you

Posted by: Simba Oct 20 2010, 03:20 PM

breasts

Posted by: ButtsexV2 Oct 20 2010, 04:15 PM

no just your average libertarian.

Posted by: futura Oct 21 2010, 02:23 AM

lol too late already voted

Posted by: IVIike Nov 5 2010, 10:26 AM

You should watch The Union it's a really eye opening documentary on the topic it presents all sides of the argument, but in the end I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be legal.

Posted by: Headlines Apr 2 2011, 12:14 PM

I think if it will be legalized it probably would definitely be regulated. Same thing with pills/medication. It is beneficial for us but can be abused as well, by anyone at that.

I believe it can do more good than harm!