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Death sentence..., What happens to those who kill killers?
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post Apr 9 2006, 07:52 PM
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There's already a topic on this.. http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...dpost&p=1952829. So my feelings on this issue are already there.

QUOTE(Spirited Away @ May 14 2005, 4:37 PM) *
So you mean that the person who flips the swith to the electric chair or the person who administers the lethal injection is guilty of murder?

Is that what you're trying to say?

I dunno if that's what she was trying to say, but yeah, that's murder.
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 08:03 PM
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^ No.. it's not. Murder is a deliberate killing for a bad purpose. To administer legal punishment is not murder.
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Paradox of Life @ Apr 9 2006, 8:03 PM) *
^ No.. it's not. Murder is a deliberate killing for a bad purpose. To administer legal punishment is not murder.

Well, in my book at least, that's still murder. I don't care if it's legal punishment. You're ending someone's life, even if it's for a "good" purpose. You're not God, so you don't have the right to take a life.

It's like the people who are pro-life. If I can't take the life of a fetus, why am I allowed to end the life of a criminal?
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 08:09 PM
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^ Death sentence is a method that will always be. What do you suppose we should do, so that someone doesn't have to pull the switch and be accused of murder?
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Paradox of Life @ Apr 9 2006, 8:09 PM) *
^ Death sentence is a method that will always be. What do you suppose we should do, so that someone doesn't have to pull the switch and be accused of murder?

Let them sit in jail..?

If they can do it in other countries, I'm SURE we can do it here.
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 09:00 PM
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That is discussed here: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12223

This topic is on a different matter. Read the original post.
 
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post Apr 9 2006, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Paradox of Life @ Apr 9 2006, 9:00 PM) *
That is discussed here: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12223

This topic is on a different matter. Read the original post.
Ahh..I thought it was just a repeat topic and I was the only one who noticed. pinch.gif

But no, the person putting the murderer to death shouldn't be killed himself..that's just silly. We'd wipe out this whole country then.
 
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post Apr 21 2006, 07:11 AM
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The death sentence is retarded.

Anywho, it's needed even if we assume that we dont - we cant have homosidal lunatics frolicking around mankind, after all. So, there has to be SOMEBODY who kills the frolicking homocidal lunatics. However, if the person who killed the crazed moron is actually 'one of them', then THEY must die. If not....

...o___o;; I just dont know. I guess it really depends on the situation.
 
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post Apr 22 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Diet Soda @ Apr 21 2006, 7:11 AM) *
we cant have homosidal lunatics frolicking around mankind, after all.
What about high-security prisons?
 
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... i thought u were saying the person killing the guy on death was being killed because the person on death was a murderer.... i was like WHAAT
 
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QUOTE(x__Elle. @ Apr 9 2006, 8:26 PM) *
Let them sit in jail..?

If they can do it in other countries, I'm SURE we can do it here.

I'm sick and tired of hearing that, so read the attached. If you're interested in debating capital punishment then follow the link. http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12223

I'm willing to come out of cB retirement to debate this full scale.


QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jun 14 2005, 10:11 PM) *
If you're being sarcastic, let me know. " rolleyes.gif "
Alright, lets read a part of "Justice for Samantha", an article from People magazine, shall we? It's true and rather morbid, but it's everyday life and more believable than anything I could make up.

"On July 15, 2002, as she played with her best friend outside her family's Staton, Calif., condo, 5-year-old Samantha Runnion was snatched, kicking and screaming, by a stranger who had said he was looking for a lost puppy. Twenty hours later her nude and brutalized body was found by a pair of hikers on a remote mountain trail 40 miles away, plunging her mother, Erin, and family, including Erin's longtime fiance, Kenneth Donnelly, into the blackest grief... Finally, last month Erin watched a Santa Ana, Calif., jury sentence Alejandro Avila, 30, to death for her daughter's kidnap, sexual assault and murder. Sitting in the front row, she sobbed quitely as the verdict was read. 'She is missing so much--I cannot forgive him for that,' says Runnion...

Samatha's tears were found on the car door lock--he had a childproof lock on it. She could pull and pull on it all she wanted, but she could not get out. It's ironic that by crying and scratching him she identified her killer. I'm proud of her that by struggling--by leaving her tears and fingernales with his DNA under them--she solved the crime. She was her own hero.

I haven't gone for counseling. I can get morbid, but I won't ignore the pain. I don't sleep a lot. When I put the kids to bed, I lie there thinking. I go to bad places because I have to. I think about how I would hurt him if I could. But when I have those fantasies, I make myself sick. I've had to think through the 'what ifs...' What if I hadn't been late leaving work? What if I could have saved her? You peel grief back layer after layer.

It was hard for Connor at first. he and Samantha were so close. He was just 10 months younger. I didn't realize until after she died that he didn't know how to button his shirt or tie his shoes; she had been doing those tasks for him. For a long time, Connor was terrified that the man would come and get us all..."

Anyway, you get the idea. Now then, tell me if this guy deserved a second chance. if so, why?

I'm sure you've heard about serial killers. Do you think they deserve 'second chances', too?
 
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post May 31 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Diet Soda @ Apr 21 2006, 8:11 AM) *
The death sentence is retarded.

Anywho, it's needed even if we assume that we dont - we cant have homosidal lunatics frolicking around mankind, after all. So, there has to be SOMEBODY who kills the frolicking homocidal lunatics. However, if the person who killed the crazed moron is actually 'one of them', then THEY must die. If not....

...o___o;; I just dont know. I guess it really depends on the situation.


I have never heard anyone call the death sentence 'retarded'.
 

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