JUST between those two, which one u think is better?
dont answer me with cd players or mp3s or w/e
im just askin for the difference ipods and irivers which ones better

Technology?
Ipod btw

moved to technology

well, i just got a 20gb ipod color today, so i'm going to have to go with that

I have an ipod mini (green). I've had it since Christmas never had any problems with it.

ipod...tons of thing to customize it with...xD I can't find any caze for a zen micro...

i saw the coolest "iGuy" skiin thing the other day. it was so fun looking!

i river

i river totaly is better

Well, I have an iPod, so I would say that. But then again, I don't really know anything about the iriver so it's a biased opinion on my part.

i-river

iriver.

they're much more innovative.

they have a new media player coming out. it's teh size of a credit card, about, and it's all screen. color, high quality.

ipod.

iPod. I was about to get the 20 GB iriver, but it looked fatter and bulkier than the iPod.. so yeah.

I've had an iPod for a couple years, and I really like it.

iPod

IRIVER.
ipod's suck.
half the people who own them probably buy them, not for specs, but because it's popular.
iriver has so much more options than ipods.

null vote... I don't have any hehe but if it was about DS and PSP, I'd go with PSP cuz you can watch movies and mp3... but that's out of topic (I have DS)

can anyone give a reason to buy ipod besides it's cool and eveyone else has one?

Yes, but the reason is likely considered to be pretty subjective. I personally find the iPod to be a very good MP3 player that is much more usable than other ones, although the subjectivity is that others might disagree.

they came out with 20gb color for same price as 20gb color iriver. i compared things, and as far as i was concenred, i was better off with the ipod

well, i like to record lectures and listen to radio when i music bores me..

and i don't want to carry around a 20 buck attachment for each, so the extra thickenss of the iriver was good (plus they ddin't have the color ipod then)

ipod color over iriver h10 20 gb version tho, def.

i can't stand the radio, so i don't plan on buying an attachmentfor that. and my other alternative was the 20gb h10, and since it was better, that's what i went with. the only feature i regret not having is the recording

I like Ipod better, not because of the popularity.

I had an Iriver, and it nice, but its nothing special.

The Ipod also works as a Harddrive (its an option in the menus) and that makes it really helpfull when I need to get files off one of my computer that has no network access.

ipod i guess

Ipod...they can do more...it even was the movie transporter 2

Oh please, all your reasons are biased.
The h320 owns the ipod in almost everyway.
If you didn't get that, then the h10 20 gig should suit you just fine


"iPod. I was about to get the 20 GB iriver, but it looked fatter and bulkier than the iPod.. so yeah."

Wow, so you couldn't handle 1 extra cm. And that extra cm has all those extra features. It says alot about yourself.

Well, in all fairness, how can you excuse others' reasoning of being biased, but not treat your own as biased? An opinion is inherently subjective.

You seem to have this constant grudge against the iPod and frankly it's annoying. When buying my mp3 player, I weighed the features of each player, and decided that the iPod was most what I wanted. Not because of the brand name status, but because regardless of what you seem to think, it is a good player and has some advantages over other players

and come on. it's like the difference between a hot girl and a not hot girl- the hot girl is obviously more preferable.

and at this point in time, i think ipod is catching up to the iriver h10 series. (although the h300 series is yet to be surpassed, but it's discontinued.)

although, on the mini/ flash player mark, the iriver u10 surpasses everything ipod has, and ipod will probably match it in a few years...

iriver.

what's an iriver?

^ the company that makes the coolest MP3 players out there.

^which is moot. I didn't care enough about flash players to bother reseaching them. I've had my iPod a month and already have about 800 songs on it and the 300 series was discontinued and my parents didn't want to order online, so the iPod seemed best compared to the H10 20gb

Ahh, good point. Headshot.
I used to like the iPods. Infact, I've actually wanted one. But after finding about the bare mp3 player it is, without any features I was surely shocked. Im a tech geek for sure. But after finding out all it has more faults then greatness, I sorta, kinda , hated it.

And advantages? The only ones I can think of are maybe the easy to use function, and the ability to get free headphones and other accesories by using a trick on the apple website.

Also, I don't even have an mp3 player.

Well there are a lot more options for the iPod, although I would have to go with the iRiver, it has much more features than the iPod, and has better quality....

5Gb iRiver H10
3D Sound Quality
Recording System
Color Screen
FM Radio
Picture Files (jpeg)
Text files (?)

iPod Mini
Plays music
Calender
Text Files
Play Games
Black and White Screens

^ Nicely explained and i will go with the iriver as well

FEATURES

• Plays up to 600 hours of digital music*
• 20GB of internal storage**
• Vivid color display
• Ultra-intuitive interface with convenient touch strip
• Displays your digital photos
• Slim, lightweight design
• PlaysForSure enabled to play more of your music
• Rechargeable battery lasts up to 16 hours
• Built-in FM tuner and FM recorder
• Integrated voice recorder
• Ultra-fast USB 2.0 transfers
• Supports MP3, WMA, JPEG and TXT files
• Enhanced 3D audio (supports SRS WOW™)

and your paying around $300 for both of the 20gb mp3 players
Song Capacity : 5,000
Battery life : Up to 15 hours of music playback; up to 5 hours of slideshows with music
Skip protection : Up to 17 minutes
Display : 2-inch (diagonal) 65,536-color LCD with LED backlight
Charge time : About 5 hours (3-hour fast charge to 80% capacity)
Audio support : AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4), Apple Lossless, WAV, AIFF

So, basically, you're basing your opinions on things you have read and heard from others, with no practical experience to back it up?

*sigh* If you don't want it stolen, get an Iriver.
That's based on experience.

based on looks, ipod wins. but i guess if you're going for "better quality" well more options, iriver wins.

the reason i described an iPod Mini because the iRiver H10 acts like an iPod Mini, I can also describe an iPod vs. iRiver as well, if you like....

20GB iRiver H10
3D Sound Quality
Color Screen
Displays Digital Photos
FM Tuner
FM Recorder
Sound/Voice Recorder
Text Notes
Alarm Clock

20GB iPod Color
Color Screen
Photos
Camera to iPod
Calender
Plays Games
Text Notes
Alarm Clock

Everyone who has posted comparison lists have taken very biased slants in discluding features.

well i dont think theres nothing better then a iriver 20gb h10...it has to many cool features and lasts longer then the ipod



can you please keep to the topic for once...stop analyzing and trying to judge people's post

Well since i have no idea what an iriver is I pick ipod. It's very handy.

I have that too.
iPod.

i have an iPod mini. well, i have had three of them. they keep breaking. so i would go with the iriver. its been 8 months since i bought the first one, and its been replaced twice because it gets like an hour of battery life after a while. i'm trying to sell it so i can get the bigger one anyways.

Ahh, but you see I don't have an mp3 player. BUT I have a PVP. So my opinion will vary from others. I expect high quality sound, endurance, performance, and video capability, and others. But I expect more because of the fact I have a PVP. The h320 does video support, whereas the iPod doesn't, but can be used to watch videos using Ipod Linux, just with no sound. Linux will void your warranty, whereas the h320 firmware MIGHT, void, but everyone who has upgraded said that iRiver happily replaced theirs when it broke, or stoped functioning correctly.


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So you don't like the iPod because it can't show videos--something it's not designed to do in the first place? That doesn't make any sense.

^ Actually only 2 iRiver products shows videos, but we're comparing the standard MP3 players...

No no, I also judge it on the mp3 factor, so basically I have 2 opinions. Yeah it's kind of confusing. On terms of just an mp3 player, I don't like it. I think it's too fragile, the design does't appeal to me and its so bare. The only good thing is the ease of use. I don't like iTunes either. Only good thing is that iTunes is free in korea, free downloads for everything. But even then the iPod doesn't appeal to the Korean Market.

the h300 wasn't designed for videos either.

and why is everyone waiting anxiously for a video ipod, if there's no need?

and why does everyone who has an ipod who sees my iriver play a movie become utterly facinated?

video is prominent in the PVPs, which ipod is not, but now as color screens proliferate, video support is growing much.

people say they don't want to watch movies on a small screen. but they forget about music videos.

ah yes, music videos. quite easily viewed on a small screen, and it's a logical progression from a regular color screen MP3 player.



err...

the PMC the PMP and the H300 show video, so that's three.

and the H300 is a standard MP3 player. same size (besides thickness) as the ipod, and what's that thick? it's the almost half a centimeter of casing on each side, which protects against falls. it's the higher capacity battery.

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within 5 years, ipods will play video clips (music videos), and all the people who said "i don't need no stinking video" when i pointed out that my H300 plays video, those people will be like... "wow look at ipod it's got video that's innovative it PWNS all others."