come back for good, we miss you.

Thats the definition im sticking with. Many words in the english language sound the same but have different meaning.

Like Bear and Bare, both are spelled differently so they take on different meanings. Thats my take on the difference between Nigga and Nigger.

There's Black People and there's Niggas.  And Niggas have got to go.  Everytime Black People wanna have a good time, ig'nant ass Niggas f**k it up.  Can't do shit without some ig'nant ass Niggas f**kin it up.  ...Can't go to a movie the first week it come out.  Why?  Cuz Niggas are shootin' at the screen.  What kind of ignorant shit is that? "man this a good movie.  This so good, i gotta bust a cap up in here." I love black people, but I hate Niggas.  ...Niggas will live next door to you, break into your house, come over the next day and go "I heard you got robbed"

pinch.gif I disagree with that statement Cassie.

It is pretty hypocritical when a black person will call another black person a "nigga" , and then turn around and want to shoot another person of another race for using it.

Like Nightmare4taki said, I'm not going to front about the N word. I have used it. But it's only been in repeating words of a song. I have never called anyone a "nigga/nigger", and I don't plan on doing so.

How can we cripe about how we don't want the word to be used, and use it like 50 times in one sentence? I don't think the word is so popular because of other races being racist to black people. It's because the word is in so many popular songs, that all races can listen too, and it's said so much in the black culture. Monkey see monkey do.

So who are we to complain? If black people really want people to stop using that word, they'll stop using it themselves.

I've had this argument with so many of my black friends before, and they say, "You've been hanging out with too many white people" or "What kind of black person are you to NOT use the word"...things like that. They say it's their privelege, like Cassie said. They say it's representing the hardships they overcame in the past, and making light of it.

I partly agree with that last statement, except for the fact that: Many black people talk about slavery as if, they themselves picked the cotton, used the underground railroad system, and walked thousands of miles. Me? I would complain about someone bringing something up in say, last august, and complaining about it. It's old, tired, shit by now. All the way in the 1700's is a long time to be holding a grudge.

Me? Both my parents were born in Nigeria, Africa. And I am 1/4 Dutch as well. So my ancestors were not in fact, slaves. It's not looked upon that way. I'm black..I've "been through slavery" so, I should say the word right? Not right.


Nigga/Nigger. I see no difference but spelling. They both mean the same thing to me.

Before/BFore/B4/Be4/ I see no difference but spelling either. I spell it a different way, but you still no what I'm saying, right?

So don't try to make "Nigger" better, by taking off the "er" and adding, an A.

In my opinion, I don't think the N word will ever stop being used--there are just too many black people who use it. But in the future, I'm not going to be one of those people.

  I disagree with that statement Cassie.

It is pretty hypocritical when a black person will call another black person a "nigga" , and then turn around and want to shoot another person of another race for using it.

Like Nightmare4taki said, I'm not going to front about the N word. I have used it. But it's only been in repeating words of a song. I have never called anyone a "nigga/nigger", and I don't plan on doing so.

How can we cripe about how we don't want the word to be used, and use it like 50 times in one sentence? I don't think the word is so popular because of other races being racist to black people.  It's because the word is in so many popular songs, that all races can listen too, and it's said so much in the black culture.  Monkey see monkey do.

So who are we to complain? If black people really want people to stop using that word, they'll stop using it themselves.

I've had this argument with so many of my black friends before, and they say, "You've been hanging out with too many white people" or "What kind of black person are you to NOT use the word"...things like that. They say it's their privelege, like Cassie said. They say it's representing the hardships they overcame in the past, and making light of it.

I partly agree with that last statement, except for the fact that: Many black people talk about slavery as if, they themselves picked the cotton, used the underground railroad system, and walked thousands of miles. Me? I would complain about someone bringing something up in say, last august, and complaining about it. It's old, tired, shit by now. All the way in the 1700's is a long time to be holding a grudge.

Me? Both my parents were born in Nigeria, Africa. And I am 1/4 Dutch as well. So my ancestors were not in fact, slaves. It's not looked upon that way. I'm black..I've "been through slavery" so, I should say the word right? Not right.
Nigga/Nigger. I see no difference but spelling. They both mean the same thing to me.





Before/BFore/B4/Be4/ I see no difference but spelling either. I spell it a different way, but you still know what I'm saying, right?

So don't try to make "Nigger" better, by taking off the "er" and adding, an A.

In my opinion, I don't think the N word will ever stop being used--there are just too many black people who use it. But in the future, I'm not going to be one of those people.

Like you still have a seperate water fountain. (That complaint kills me. Two water fountains just meant shorter lines for everyone.)

Yes, it was the Civil War.

What are your views on the Holocaust?  I guess that wasn't "real" either.

There are Civil War books . . . and then there are Civil War books. Among the many books about the Civil War on the market today, only one addresses a little-known reason why that great conflict was fought. International book reviewer Danny Yee has stated, "One of the things that has always puzzled me about the history of the United States is how a civil war could be fought and won to end slavery, but full civil rights not be granted to blacks until a century later." An explanation is to be found in The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War by Dr. Lawrence R. Tenzer whose 21 years of research show that many in the North perceived slavery as a personal threat to their free Northern way of life.

Tenzer explains that in the antebellum South, the children of slave mothers were slaves from the moment of birth. Even though miscegenation lightened skin color, virtually white slave children were still considered mulattoes and remained slaves nonetheless, even after an endless number of generations went by and all discernible Negroid traits were long gone. A good example is a case he reports in which a slave woman who was one sixty-fourth black was on the auction block. One of her great-great-great-great grandparents was black. Not all slaves in the South were black, and this phenomenon of white slaves, whites with a distant black ancestor, was to have unexpected political consequences.

A large number of white slaves escaped to the Northern states hoping to pass into free white society, and slave catchers went North looking for them. This posed a direct threat to white people living in the North because under the provisions of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850, runaway slaves could be reclaimed without due process, which in effect allowed for free whites to be mistakenly seized. Furthermore, as Chapter 6 goes on to prove, such Southern political power opened up the potential for slavery being nationalized, and as such the very real possibility existed that enslavement could be extended to the lower class of white laborers as well. Lincoln himself made reference to slavery "regardless of color" during a speech he gave in Chicago on December 10, 1856. Lincoln also spoke of white slavery in other speeches, all of which Tenzer has fully documented. PLATE 9 is his book shows an 1856 Republican party handbill which clearly states in capital letters, "SLAVERY IS RIGHT, NATURAL, AND NECESSARY, AND DOES NOT DEPEND UPON DIFFERENCE OF COMPLEXION. THE LAWS OF THE SLAVE STATES JUSTIFY THE HOLDING OF WHITE MEN IN BONDAGE." Illustrations which depict actual white slaves and other historical documents having to do with white slavery provide enough proof to convince even the most skeptical reader that white people were slaves in the American South and that white slavery was indeed a cause of the Civil War. It is very important to point out that white slavery was merely a by-product of black slavery since there were certainly a great many more black slaves than white. It was the idea — not the reality — of white slavery and the threat to freedom it posed which concerned the North

You condescending douchebag, lets go over a few things, shall we?

I'd like to begin by asking you a few questions;

1) What is your ethnicity?
2) Where do you live?
3) Do you even have a clue as to what goes on in our society?

I've read quite a few of your posts and they're generally biased and close-minded. And when they aren't biased and close-minded, they're obnoxious and patronizing. (How dare you muster the nerve to criticize someone's poetry because you believe there's a template for expression). I've had about enough of you and your shit. Before I bid you adieu by suggestion that you take a bath while drying your hair, I'll address this debate.

This debate isn't a matter of the n word being the worst racial slur. You've missed the point entirely. Who said it was the worst? And by 'you' what exactly is your implication?

Regarding historical hardships, I said nothing to discredit any other races. Was this topic 'the compare and contrast of the trials and tribulations of various races?' No. Its a topic addressing the n-word and why I find it to be offensive.

Thanks for being the lone opposition in the debate in an effort to keep it going (thats what you were doing, right? You aren't really that ignorant, are you?), but keep in mind that if all you know is what you read or what has been fed to you by way of the media, then you don't know shit. Spare me the history lesson.

If you're going to contribute to an argument, be sure you're actually contributing instead of making yourself look like an ignorant jackass.

Is the hairdryer still on? Ok, now drop it into the water.

2.i live in the middle of flint michigan. A predominately black hell hole.

Of course my posts are biased and closed-minded. This is the debate section. You have to present your case closed-minded and biased. Because it's your case. If you waiver in what your saying you give the rebuttle places to tear apart your statement.

... Sorry to burst your bubble, Sammi, but Lincoln led the Union into the Civil War against the Confederacy to "preserve the Union," and as sikdragon said, slavery was just a footnote. After all, as far as I can recall from my AP US class, Lincoln didn't say anything about ending slavery in the North. You'll learn about it when you take US History in high school.

I already burst her bubble. Why doesn't anyone pay attention to my posts? 

I saw it, but who wants to read through four long paragraphs that the poster didn't even write? A few sentences sufficed in place of what you posted.

I see black people say it all the time.  But all of a sudden when a white person says "nigga", it's go time.  Wtf?

Artist,Jul 12 2005, 11:40 PM]Eh slavery was a small reason, the real reason had something to do with money.  Slavery is just the nice thing to talk about.  Everyone likes a good sad story about struggles and risks that use the word Freedom a lot.

Lincoln entered the Civil War not to end slavery, but to preserve the Union, as I'd stated before.

Exactly. But you're sticking too much to the surface. Look deeper: why was the Union breaking up? Why did the southern states want to secede? I think that the underlying factors are what headphones is getting at.

^ You do realize I was only kidding right and I realize I was foolish for putting it there.

And how could you counter that quote with Chris Rock of all people. I personally have nothing against him but we all know he uses the N-word just for gratification.
He is one of  many stand up comedians who uses the word religiously and also one of the many people I feel has marketed the word to become famous.

its only ok when black people call it to each other because they don't wuiet mean it in the same way..  just like if a gangsta( lol) calls one of his fellow ganstas a gansta( lol) then its ok because there just buddies but if like some cop or w/e calls em a gansta they flip out because they think of it as an insult( for some reason).

haha sorry if that didnt make sense to you.. it made sense in my head before i typed it lol

honestly it's become one of those vulgar uneducated words. When speaking you must first take into consideration your audience. If you're speaking to educated people or just want to be polite there is a whole list of words you don't say. That is called formality. When you're hanging out with your friends and just talking the list is shortened to the limitations of your friends. Everything is case by case. You can't just put a big label on everything. That's what i've learned after reading this thread. There are different cultures even within the same city. That just begs the quotation. "When in Rome do as the Romans do." That doesn't mean that we should all become racists when in the company of one. It means that to fit in you'll have to make some compromises as to make friends and be accepted. Everyone has their own sets of morals and im not saying we should stray from them. It's just something we have to take into consideration when we socialize with our fellow human beings.

Its called self-racism, i believe.  I hate it when people try to differentiate(sp?) between "nigga" and "nigger".  Same thing.

I see black people say it all the time.  But all of a sudden when a white person says "nigga", it's go time.  Wtf?