Okay, I haven't really been following his case. But can someone inform me on what evidence (besides the childs testimony) do the prosecuters have on michael?

Actually, in a way, we both are. But, whatever

blacks only seem disadvantaged because there are more poor blacks. it is really poor people who are disadvantaged.

Well, thats a given. In Texas, its the Mexicans who're given a tough time instead of black people. In regards to someone of color getting a stricter ruling in court, the same thing can be applied with Mexicans (in San Antonio, that is).

We're kinda getting off topic here.

Ok, ok, my bad. Let's get back to the albino piece of plastic that has a weird fetish for pre-pubescent boys.

What I don't get is, why would they finally confess that MJ did that to them at the LAST minute?

Good question. You'd think that if they were really offended by his actions that news of his misconduct would've surfaced much sooner. Not months later.

Are you defending MJ or suggesting that his actions of pedophilia are acceptable?
I suppose you are
You agree with pedophilia you sick, perverse, retard
You may agree that molestering young chilren is right but the rest of the population who are not retarded don't agree with abnormal butt monkies like you

Of course, if they didn't have proof that he molested kids then his trial probably wouldn't last this long.

When is the last time you seen a white dude get the sh*t beat out of him for no reason by some cops. Answer me this then, why does the police brutality only happen to black people then? Ive seen a lot of of tapes where a n*gga like myself has got the f*ck beat of them for no apparent reason. But your not black so I guess you probaly couldn't relate.

ANYWAY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF CHILD MOLESTATION SO HE MUST BE INNOCENT.

I think he did..

But I think the parents should be blamed as well..

I mean I dont care how much money you want, if Michale Jackson asked if one of my kids wanted to spend the night as his house or go to his ranch..

NO!

I mean, even if it WASNT Michale Jackson why the hell would he want to spend time with 10 year old boys that arnt family? Exactly.

SO I think the Parents should be on trial as well.. what kind of morons..

there's black cops too, and i haven't seen ANYONE get beat up by cops for no reason, much less only black people. if the cops are racist, that just means they're bad people, but that does not make the entire judicial system racist. if a cop brings a black man into court, and he gets convicted; well then, he probably did it. even if that cop was racist, i doubt the entire jury and the judge and the witnesses were all racist.

anyway, i think michael jackson is guilty for at least one of them; but i doubt all of these kids got molested and are all bringing it up at the same time.

So you mean to tell me that the kid in Inglewood, California deserved to get the sh*t beat out of him for having a speech impediment. Besides when have you seen a black cop beating up on another person. My people get hit with the taser and yours get treated like royalty. Obviously you must be lost since the government did everything it could to stop the Black Panthers but did not intervene with the KKK. Your not black so you don't see what I see. Not to be arguing Im just stating fact.

My reaction to the outbr3ak of the news that he's being charged for underage molestation is *wow* and *eww!* haha! but im not sure whether to believe it or not.. but i dont know! it could also be a scam.. hahaha! :D all i wish for is that there will be justice!

that is one of the most blantantly racist thing i've heard.

'my people' ? WTF? do think it's blacks against whites?

police are human. humans make mistakes. there have been white teenagers shot too for no apparent reason. however, only the black ones make it into the headlines.

when have you seen a white cop beating on another white guy? when have you seen an white cop beating on a black guy? are white cops only beating on black guys? or are you so racist, you refuse to see it when white cops beat up white guys.

i'll assume that 'my people' are blacks.
and of course, that would mean that blacks get hit by tasers. which is, of course true.
i'll assume that 'your people' are whites.
and the queen of enland is white, so that is true.

however, white people get hit by tasers too.
black people are princes and kings and queens too.

what you fail to understand is that statistics need to be taken in context.

sure; more blacks are arrested, etc. (% wise).
however; what you fail to realize is how much context plays into stats.

there are more blacks (% wise) than whites (% wise) below the poverty line. etc. etc.

it is not blacks that get tasered, it is poor people.

you are mistaking discrimination based upon appearance with discrimination based upon race.


four senarios:

if a black 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a white 'dude' walks up to you, with his pants quite baggy and saggying, with a doo rag, oversized shirt, 'bling', etc. with his hand in his pocket, yelling at you at get away from his car

if a black man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

if a white man, well dressed and shaven, walks up to you, with his hand in his pocket and yells at you to get off his car

and you have a taser
which ones are you going to taser?


about the black panthers.

does the fact that they protested by massing, all with loaded weapons, contribute, you think, to the government's efforts to stop it?

does the fact that one of thier leaders killed a cop have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

does the fact that thier leaders are militants have anything to do with the government's efforts to stop them?

The black panthers' pledge is racist.

the KKK is also racist.

however, they do not create a armed mob in front of government offices.

just becuase the white guy gets treated better than the black guy does not mean the black guy was discriminated against.

to you, i say, you need to change your outlook. blacks and whites are not 'at war', nor are they natural enemies.

thank you justin.

yes because a few years ago he gave a family an out of court settlement for child molestation. Also why do you think him and his lawyers took sickies

Why would they wait so LATE to say he did this stuff though? That's the part I don't get.

I do, because this has already come up before. Plus he seems to be a sick, sick man.

First off you don't know me. My views will always stay the same. Im no racist, I just witness racism. As a black man I look at things differently from you. Hell if you were black you would fill the same way. My blackness will not allow me to see things any other way. LMAO. IF all this was true then why does racial profiling exist?

Like Tupac said its all a setup. U said there r more poor black people than poor white people. Why is that? There are more white people in the U.S. but yet more Black People behind bars. Black people also get more tickets. Now thats just something I find amazing. IM NO RACIST I just know the truth hurts sometimes.
When I said your people and my people I was just being funny. You would know that if this was a actual conversation and not typed words.
This is off topic anyway.

Maybe your fetish for bukkake is blurring your vision.

1. You insult me on the internet? Get a life.
2. Pedophilia is disgusting, case closed.
3. I don't agree with Michael Jackson, I just think the case is shady.

Let this be a word of advice, before you talk shit on the internet, make sure you have a protected IP address.

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As for police brutality, here's a reality check for this entire forum...

This past week, I had to attend two funerals, one for my grandfather, and one for a distant cousin. Because of my grandfather's sudden passing I was stricken with grief but had no clue on how to handle it. I didn't cry, I didn't vent, I just dealt. When I arrived in Delaware last Tuesday, I got to my cousin's house and, as he told me, blacked out. Later on that evening, it happened again. After resting most of the next day (and a visit to the Doc) I was medicated to 'stay awake' and was sent to run an errand. On the way back home, I blacked out at the wheel, ended up (unharmed) in a ditch and was a bit shook up and disoriented. A cop had flown by, slammed on his brakes, put the car in reverse and stormed to my car. He taps on the window, I begin to open the door, he pulls me out the car, picks me up and slammed me against the door. He kept accusing me of being 'another drunk nigga' and 'another nigga doin drugs.' I took the breathalizer and, surprise, surprise, I wasn't drunk (i don't drink). This a-hole continued to put me through other sobriety tests and I passed them all. Instead of letting me go or helping me get my grandmother's car out of the ditch, he was persistent in accusing me of somehow being intoxicated. I was hit in the gut with the knightstick and knocked to my knees. I cursed at him and he roughed me up some more, cuffed me and took me in for 'resisting arrest.' Two hours later, at the precinct, in a small cell that wreaked of urine, he lets me have my phone call and cut it off at 60 seconds. Even though my grandmother came down and rose hell, no punishment came to this guy and I was let go that night. The cop was black.

i haven't really kept up with it. but i DO know that micheal jackson is a scary kid with a lot of problems he needs to sort out, and he definately is capable of something like that.

Michael does have problems... BUT that doesn't mean he did that stuff though.

well, in my opinion.. he didnt molest those kids... there was like this one incident when the victim's mom called John Lennon for money... dunno if that's true but i believe it.... maybe the victim is using M.Jacksn for money

you're right. The woman who hes on trial for her son or whatever, rpeortedly went to Jim Carey, Greorge something (hispanic comedian?) umm Jay lenno and some other people, beggin for money to help her son. She was looking for someone like Michael Jackson who would fall for it. No one else did but him. she uses celebrities for their money.

i believe that anyway is capable of doing something like that. even michael jackson; but i'm not saying that he did but it doesn't matter what any of us think. it is what the jury decides.

Just a thought, the kids may not have come forward because they were ashamed of what they did. I have not been following the case closely of late, namely because MJ bores me, but it happens in other sexual-molestation cases with fair consistency. If the family knew about it and didn't tell, I have no idea why, but if the kids were the only ones who knew about it, they may have thought it was their 'fault' and that they were 'dirty' because of it.

Even if he didn't do it, he'll be forever remembered for this and not for his 'Off the Wall' album (best pop album ever).

When you think of R. Kelly, what comes to mind? Kobe? Mark Chmura (Google him)? Barry Bonds? OJ?

How many of you realize that Robert Kelly is a self taught musician that feeds millions of dollars into SOuthside Chicago? Who knew that Mark Chmura was once respected by one of the most hard-nosed quarterbacks to ever play the game (Favre)? Who's going to remember Bonds' record after someone out of the steroid light breaks it? Whos going to remember Michael Jackson for being a walking god of music 20 years down the road?

I don't care and that's his problem if he did

I think that its a bit damaging to judge him ourselves. I also think that its incredibly hypocritical for the WASP christian culture of America that are very much 'Holier than Thou' to judge him as well. 'Judge not...' 'treat others as you would have them treat you' etc.

NO!!!!!!!
I'm not a fan but if you look at the facts I honestly can sit here and so no he didn't, at least not the victim in the trial.

If you watched the re-enactments, its all there..

I thought he did until the victim said that when he was in school he was a bad-ass, not in those exact words but yeah, he got suspended a lot and even talked back to teachers.

He says that MJ touched him, and masturbated him one night and they slept in the same bed yada yada yada, then he says that the next two nights he acted normal (borrowing clothes, sleeping with MJ in the same bed ect.) and it happens again

now don't you think if he can cause all those problems in school, he could easily stand up to MJ or at least avoid him.

Also the kid complains how MJ stopped giving him all that stuff (MJ gave him gifts, a car for his family to see him in the hospital, a computer, ect) and he says "in his 12 year old mind" that wasn't enough, the kid and his family obviously want money, and thats why I don't believe he did it.

umm.. i dont think he did but, i think he did some things that werent appropriate such as the sleeping in the bed

mj may have bleached, sugerized, slept with kids or what have you. but he is forver the pop king in my heart. *sob sob... ><

uh yah. he's so creepy.... dang.

i really dont know;

i guess people could just make up these things because it is entertainment

I dont. I think people just do it for the publicity

I talk back to teachers when I find it necissary (because, hate to break it to you but, teachers aren't always right and I'm not the type to hear someone spit out shit to me when I have something to say to it). Also, I have been suspended before. Not all the time and I wouldn't consider myself a "bad ass" but it's not like it hasn't happened.

He could stand up to MJ if he wanted to. Maybe he didn't want to though. But let me give you the definiton of molestation. Ha! I can even give you my own personal example (which I will in a few). One of the definitions of molestation is that it is when a legal adult acts inapropriatly towards a legal child.


My personal experiance with child molestation:

Well, I'm thirteen. I used to be extremly stupid. Still, while I was thirteen, I met this guy named Ken. Everyone called him Spike or Blade, though cuz he loved spikes and blades. I called him Spike. So we'll use that name for him. He's 21. Well, I was at the mall with friends one night when I met Spike. I thought he was cute but didn't really do anything. Eventually my friends got us to flirt and what-not. They basicly pushed me into him so I had to kiss him (without tongue). Eventually it got to the point where we were hard-core hooking up in Spencer's. Like, kissing. We didn't do anything besides kissing but we were REALLY close to each other and all that "good" stuff. SOOO... We hung out other nights, too. I never went any farther with him than kissing. We were always in public so it's not like he could rape me or anything. I made sure of that. He wasn't close to me or anything. He was just some druggy that I could have fun with. (He sucked tongue a bit too much, though. Besides that, he was a good kisser.)
So, eventually my friend's mom found out about what was going on with Spike and I. I'm not going to go into that because it's much too complicated. She didn't like me in the fist place and my friend, JT and I weren't even suposed to hang out. But she basicly told the security guards (aka Rent-a-cops) at the mall one night about what was going on. I have no clue how animated she made it. But long story short: he got arrested for molestation. He had to go to court and all that other stuff. I told the police in my statement that even though he implied other things, he never tried to get me to do them and all we had ever done was hook up. I told them everything and was bruetally honest with them. I told them that he kind of touched me through my close on my ass and breasts but I never told him not to or anything. He still got arrested for child molestation. I think a fourty-some year old man jacking off a twelve year old could get him into serious trouble. Especially if a 21 year old could get into serious trouble for kissing a twelve year old. Think about it. Spike got in trouble for it. MJ could, too.

I would like to make it clear to everyone that I am not proud of this experiance but I needed to make a point.

the only reason why i like michael jackson is because of the kick-ass songs he made back in the day. nothing more. its his personal life, and i dont see why everyone cares about it.

I do hate it when people get in other people's personal lives.. usually. But when you're going against proper morals, it should be known. I just don't like the fact that the media is giving it so much attention because it is Michael Jackson. They wouldn't care nearly as much if it was just some "regular" guy. But, I don't like MJ in the first place. Although, I did like thriller. And he was sooo hott WAY BACK WHEN!!! hehe.

No. I think that the mom of the "molested" child just wants to get money.

This thread is still going? Shouldn't this be in Entertainment?

In the most recent case, I know he was let offwith everything, but what are YOUR thoughts?

Didn't someone already make a topic about this?
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70930

I don't see what the huge deal is. If any other regular person had molested a little boy, no one would've made it so huge. I personally thought he was guilty though because, why would anyone make up a story like that? And he had a background always loving little boys (at his birthday, he invited a ton of little boys), so if he perhaps got a little too close to one, why wouldn't it be true? I'm glad they didn't go crazy on him though becuase I think from a logical standpoint that he shouldn't deserve too big a penalty for doing something that didn't even harm the child.

well, i think he wants your reaction.


what i think is...

IT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!

the only reason why he was let off the hook is because:
a.) he's wealthy
b.) he's famous
c.) famous people testified for him

grrr...im so mad. everyone better watch where their kids are, michael jackson is back on the streets!

Topics Merged.

OJ's innocent.
Accused Catholic priests are innocent.
Jonbenet Ramsey's parents are innocent.
Michael Jackson is innocent.

Somethings not righ here

eh...maybe not. granted, he does hang around those kids too much though.

It doesn't really matter if he did or didn't.
He's f**king Michael Jackson, of course he was going to get off scott-free.