Aww thanks mzkandi and xquizit I really will try my best to be a good mod. Oh yeah and mzkandi, Dani is my name.. well my nickname but you can call me by that.

The truth? i am VERY shocked that Dani got picked, i mean, i don't really see her in the forums, even though she has over 5 k posts...and i still don't understand how she got picked over James, Anna, Kris ...

HOWEVER...i don't see why we shouldn't give her a chance...everyone deserves a chance...just let her be, please...

BUT now i have to kiss my sister's butt

aw poo. ill try harder next time.
congrats to you all!

oh i fully intend to give dani a chance, and i didnt mean to hurt her feelings. i just think that there are other peoplewho deserve that chance

go ahead. prove me wrong. i'll be over joyed

If it was a vote, and other people got to vote, then wouldn't it just be a popularity contest?

Actually, to tell you the truth, I feel sorry for Dani, but it does not give Jusun the power to stand back in the shade, and not say anything, rather have Roxanne say everything. I am tired of Jusun staying behind the shade of his community and his mods. He really needs to come out of it. I'm getting really annoyed.

go read the cb revolution thread in the lounge for an argument on this topic

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I've also heard that she was modded twice before (a rumor which I have doubts about, but whatever) and stepped down or was kicked off because she wasn't active enough. Does someone like that really deserve to be part of staff?

Seeing as I read through this entire thread, I wanted to clear this and claim this is a false rumor. On the other hand, I'd have to say that I'm glad the people that were promoted got them except Dani, even though I resisted to bringing new mods in and then later had no say in this (out of my free will, of course). Especially since I've been active over the past few months in the girls' locker room (where Dani usually goes), I've seen what kind of posts she makes. Furthermore, I just think that if one is to promote someone to the status of People Staff, that person should at least know people around the community, hence the title. I don't mean to say IM everyone on AIM constantly, but keep in touch and interact with people. Blah. And I didn't come across this now, but I would've very likely mentioned it to Jusun or Kim if they were online.[/rant]

Yes, Dani does that, but yet again, Jusun needs to come forward. It's been really starting to bug me on how he favors.

I see that the rest of the mods, do not.... persay favor people more than others, which is exactly what I've been craving for.

But

First Seon Ho, don't get me wrong, he's a nice person, but that's just favoring, especially after what he did in the picture section. Think about it, bashing your own members, is that not worse than a lot of the complaints you have had Jusun?

Second, yes Dani, I feel very sorry because she's being "picked on" but it comes down to whether what you did was right or wrong. Was she not a mod 2 times before, and she left and came back and left and came back. Also, I would like to mention that plenty of the posts.... are pointless? Yes, is thatn ot against the guidelines.

Eh, the members need to have a voice in this. This is turning chaotic just to have the "leaders" voices.

Most or all of the people that are criticizing dani are simply jealous that they weren't picked. It's REALLY rude to be saying those mean things about her...when she can clearly read every comment that you make. The people that said that she doesn't deserve the job should really think about what they say before they say it ... because noone likes to get their feelings hurt...and it's pointless because the decision's already been made.

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Most or all of the people that are criticizing dani are simply jealous that they weren't picked. It's REALLY rude to be saying those mean things about her...when she can clearly read every comment that you make. The people that said that she doesn't deserve the job should really think about what they say before they say it ... because noone likes to get their feelings hurt...and it's pointless because the decision's already been made.

I'm not jealous at all...I demoted myself from the admin position, hence an obvious reason for not wanting moderator powers.

People aren't complaining about Dani, they're complaining about Dani being chosen. Its visibly unfair.

although i do think they wold make much better mods (theyre more active and more a part of the community- nothing to dani personally) i think she was chosen over them in the respect that her not really having friends amoung the staff or other members (although i personally think they should have chosen someone who does interact with the community) because she would theoretically be less biased and partial in situations when the "popular members" that people have been complaining of "get out of hand" or whatever the problem is

^I am sick of some of the mods being afraid that "popular" members will be biased. Hey, if I think James is being out of line, I tell him. I really think that if Anna/James/Chrissy would stand up, so to say, to their friends if they were acting up.

i do as well. HOWEVER, i think that they want someone who isnt like us and wont chat a lot, so as not to create hypocricy, even if we are good mods. of course, if that was the plan, it would be completely blown now, as were actually having this ridiculous arguement, but in theory it works.

Agreed. God knows how much Anna shuts me up.

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i do as well. HOWEVER, i think that they want someone who isnt like us and wont chat a lot, so as not to create hypocricy, even if we are good mods. of course, if that was the plan, it would be completely blown now, as were actually having this ridiculous arguement, but in theory it works.

What do you mean "like us"? There are plenty of moderators on the Staff now (the old ones) that were really popular and have turned out to be the best mods on the Staff who know how to contain themselves...

thats not what i meant. i was referring to our little tendencies to have off topic conversations, which im trying to overcome

The point I was trying to make was the fact that not everyone of the popular members do that; therefore, please point out whom "our" is.

I have to agree with Nicki on this part however. That is a reason for why she was chosen, yes. Still, I am not talking about her anymore. I want Jusun to come and speak.

i meant a literal "our" that time, since rachel and i partook in those two conversations that i was indirectly referring to. rachel was not a mod at that point, but i was, and i dont think bonding with other members lessened me as a mod. im probably being overly defensive- especially since ive explained this on multiple other topics, but i assume i should clarify

yeah i know you're not jealous. That's why i said most people are.



Well....to be perfectly honest, I'd sure as hell be insulted/upset if people were disappointed about me being chosen as a mod. I can't see anyone who wouldn't be.

QUOTE(dani41790 @ Apr 26 2005, 2:11 AM)

Wow gosh it looks like lots of people don't want me to be a mod . I was actually quite surprised myself since I really didn't deserve the job. And for those of you who think that they picked friends over people who can do a better job, it's not true. I don't even know any of the mods. I really have no clue at all why they picked me, so please don't think that I was chosen out of popularity, I really do want to help CB improve so please give me a chance. I'll step down though if you all really don't think i deserve to be a mod. Gosh I feel hated. But well thankyou to those who are willing to give me a chance to prove myself.

No, Dani, don't be sad. No one is mad at you. No one hates you. Be happy you were given the position. Just understand that some of us were just frustrated about it all. But that doesn't mean you need to leave the position. Go and prove us wrong. Congrats.

QUOTE(Kathleen @ Apr 26 2005, 1:59 PM)

Seeing as I read through this entire thread, I wanted to clear this and claim this is a false rumor. On the other hand, I'd have to say that I'm glad the people that were promoted got them except Dani, even though I resisted to bringing new mods in and then later had no say in this (out of my free will, of course). Especially since I've been active over the past few months in the girls' locker room (where Dani usually goes), I've seen what kind of posts she makes. Furthermore, I just think that if one is to promote someone to the status of People Staff, that person should at least know people around the community, hence the title. I don't mean to say IM everyone on AIM constantly, but keep in touch and interact with people. Blah. And I didn't come across this now, but I would've very likely mentioned it to Jusun or Kim if they were online.[/rant]

I completely agree Kathleen, which is why in the very first place I was disappointed and a bit angry. Honest, I wasn't angry or jealous because she got picked over me. The fact that she did get chosen when I didn't see her as qualified, is what it was. I guess my understanding of people staff and such was wrong. My apologies.

QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Apr 26 2005, 2:40 PM)

^I am sick of some of the mods being afraid that "popular" members will be biased. Hey, if I think James is being out of line, I tell him. I really think that if Anna/James/Chrissy would stand up, so to say, to their friends if they were acting up.

Frankly, I'm quite sick of it too. Not everything has to do with popularity. People keep bringing up the fact that some of us are angry either because we are jealous or because we thought the more "popular" members should have been chosen. Neither is true. I am not jealous nor do I think that the more "popular" members should have been chosen. But, as Kathleen and someone else has said, I thought that as part of People Staff the person would have to actually know the people in the community. Basically that just means that those that are considered popular know the people in the community because they are known. However, I'm not exactly seeing that with some of those that were chosen, thus I was disappointed. I'm not saying that every single popular member that applied should have been chosen. I mean Jason was relatively popular but in no way does that mean he should have been chosen. I guess all of it might sound like it contradicts a bit, but it's hard to explain what I mean. And yes Rachel, I would have. Obviously those who don't/didn't stand up even against their friends have no reason to have the position because they aren't doing their job. Which is another thing that I had a problem with, although I think it was stated in the Moderator Performance topic so there's no need for repetition.

Hey, that's not true! They probably just think that quote there were lots of other people that deserved the job more than you end quote. But, I'm sure you'll make a great mod!

yay, welcome to the staff everyone! =]

^Wow, your post looks kinda awkward now. ;]
Anyways, I would like to congratulate all the new staff members. =] I know all of you would make cb a happier place. Whee

Although I am dissapointed I didn't make it, i'm really glad that Dani got chosen. This just proves that the way the admins choose the mods are fair. So, yeah.

congrats everyone who made it

Someone mentioned Jason up there! ^

Come to think of it, now that Jason and the other regular disliked ppl are gone, the elites are beginning to bite each other in boredom. =X

QUOTE(Where We Are @ Apr 26 2005, 6:30 PM)

Someone mentioned Jason up there! ^

Come to think of it, now that Jason and the other regular disliked ppl are gone, the elites are beginning to bite each other in boredom. =X

I really doubt that's why. Plus, Jason isn't gone. And no one is "biting each other".

im disappointed how this turned out, really am. and i am quite disgusted by some of the assumptions made by some people here.

1) i did not have any take in the selection process, i just moderated it.
2) i dont know (either online or off) any of the new staff members.
3) dani was never a mod before.
4) the reason why seonho became an admin was because he served very capably as admin previously (him and gina were the first admins after me).
5) i am not hiding "behind the shades of the mods", i am perfectly capable of defending myself thank you very much. if you were also a vice president of your university's student association, served as an executive board member for three other clubs, excelled in academics, and worked on the side, you would be finding yourself short on time as well.
6) many more people are joining than leaving. and i highly doubt those who are leaving, aside from a incrediblely small minority, are because of my supposed lack of judgement.

i mentioned this in the "cb revolution" thread, but we have a set of standard procedures that admins perform when selecting the staff members. its simply impossible for someone to become a staff member just through one admin's biased preference, really is.

and regardless of what all of you may feel, i stand by the new staff members and have absolute faith that they will do a good job. given the opportunity, most people do. and in an event they don't, its our job to shoot ourselves in the foot, which i can promise you we will, and not yours.

ah, the cynically observant sideliner. does he/she perhaps speak the truth?

Meh, I wasn't going to participate in any of this, but I have something to say.

Keeping my personal thoughts aside, I really think some of you are causing a scene because you are either bitter or jealous.
Notice I said the word "some," so don't jump all over me saying that you're not like that.

Seriously. There isn't anything you can do to change the current moderator situations, so get over it and stop causing a scene. I don't care if you're upset about it. I'm sure the admins and head staff have good reasons for why they chose the people that they did.

I do realize your disappointment on any side, but really....There isn't much you can do but to keep your head up and try again in the future. I'm sure the new mods are qualified.

And get off of Dani's case, really. It's nice to see someone else get the job. I was surprised that she did, but not in a bad way. Congratulations, Dani. Don't let this get to you. I realize a lot of you are surprised, but how would YOU like it if 90% of the people replying to this thread are questioning your skills and intelligence? I assure you that it wouldn't be a good feeling.

So get off of her case. Just wait until next time.

Anyway, that's all I have to say now, and no, I am most certainly not sucking up. I don't even want a moderator job anymore, so don't hold what I've said against me. I'm sick of people assuming that you're sucking up anytime you say something that goes along with what the admins have to say.

Have a nice day.

Man I really didn't think that if i became a mod it would cause people to be frustrated =\. Well i'm sorry if it upseted some of you. I'll just try to do my best and i'll quit with the stupid posts.

Well, Dani, good luck on the Staff I'm sure you'll do a good job, regardless. Yeah, it made some people a bit frustrated, but the Admins picked you for a reason. Have fun on the Staff & Congrats

aww i didnt make it =[ well its okaii i think the people who got it deserve it more then me

um, i believe kathleen said above you that it was false......

i completely agree with brie. will you guys just stop whining? at least like, don't whine about on here. if anyone said stuff like this about you, i bet you'd feel pretty bad.

dani, i'll give you a chance. though, i'll admit, i was surprised when i saw your name on the list; many people were surprised when i was modded too.

Congrats to all! Good luck with the new jobs!

agreed! and congrats guys!

Congratulations to everyone who made it!
I'm sure you all will do a great job

YAY!!!
congratulations all you who made it!
you lucky people would make great mods!

Heh, congrats everyone ! Those people seem to b perfect for that kind of job.

Congrats to everyone that made it...

haha. yeah i just came back to post this once. i had to argue to get my password back, but after this post, i ask that an admin please unregister my account. im just posting because i feel that i have to (even if i dont) defend them (mainly roxanne) on this...

this is funny. you people have a way of assuming the worst about people and things that you generally dont have a clue about. i, for one, actually AM familiar with the moderation process (that is, if it was the same as the previous 'mod-harvesting' session, because jusun told me about it that first time) and i have to agree with him and roxanne in saying that it IS simply impossible for someone to be modded simply based on jusun being friends with that person. the entire selection has to be a unanimous decision between all decision-makers. meaning that if even ONE admin+rox declines a member from being modded, then they are automatically out of the running. if all three people put dani on their acceptance list, then there obviously is a reason that they are seeing, and that all of you are too ignorant to realize.

i dont personally like dani... well i dont know her, and that is sort of a bad sign, considering that a member of the people staff should actually..connect with the community.. i considered myself to be an active member of the community, and if i cant even recognize her, then that does call into question if shes right for the job (though im sure that her intentions are true)... but yknow what? it's none of my business. the admins chose who they wanted on the staff, and THEY are the ones who will have to work with them, essentially. so why are YOU all even worrying about it? you could at least give her a chance to prove herself before publically humiliating her, and again, as rox said, if you have a problem... take it up with the admins... dont go causing conflict on the board and dragging everyone else into it. that's just extremely childish. but then again, this is cb.

You're right about the declining part, but a applicant doesn't necessarily have to be on all 3 of our "accept" lists to be chosen. There is also a "neutral" list. As long as the member is not in any 3 of our "decline" lists, then they are eligible to become a mod. I may have said too much. I'm not sure if we're allowed to discuss the process with the regular members, but eh, you started it.

Well, what can I say, this thing is just stupid. Thats why I didn't even want to apply for being a mod this time, even though i want to be. I know people are going to BITCH like they are now and ask why why why. I don't care if I get in trouble and I don't care if yal delete it. But, people just need to shut the f**k up and leave the decision as is and go on with there own f**king business.

Honestly, grow up. She was chosen, you weren't. Try next time, and quitting isn't solving anything by the way.

Congratulations, Dani and everybody else who was modded. Great job.

hmm... i wonder if in the future, it can be released how many votes were for/against a person. either PMed to them, or posted in a thread.

what would be the point.

no real point, i'm just curious as to who was close, and such.

^^ That would probably cause a bit of drama. Also, people would say, I thought people liked me, *sob*. SOME people, not ALL people, notice. And then it would almost be a popularity contest.

ok...truly..


You guys that want the population vote. A Population Vote doesn't necessarily mean that they are qualified to become a mod. If Cb members did indeed vote for what members should be mods, then it WOULD turn into a popularity contest, and it would be more about friends then skill. Ironic, that's what everyone is complaining about now. That friends were choosen over skill, but since when do we members really know whats going on backstage. Only the mods can know. And they didn't become mods unless the staff had good reasons to choose them.

Yes, Jusun does have a busy life out of cb. But that doesn't compromise his judgement on who is qualified to mod a forum. And if you say that he doesn't really "know" you well.... that's why he relied on the staff members opinions on who gets modded, they get to know us. To question their judgement is unreasonable. As Jusun said,




Jusun and most of the staff members have been around this site much longer. For goodness sake, he created it. He knows what he's doing. I'm pretty disappointed on how selfish people are acting on here. We get to say our opinions and post them in a forum, and if you think that the people choosen makes life unfair, then tough. You're going to have to deal with this sorta thing all your life, and you will always have your opinion. Be mature about it.

We know the basis of the modding process. And we know what kind of people they are looking for to mod. They list the qualifications when they post the topic. And we know that the mods make a list and the compare lists and they spend numerous hours deciding which person would fit well for the job. They go through all the applications and have to pick through all the people on this site. That is all we need to know. Nothing more. We don't need to know the whole process in detail.

If a member is picked to be a mod that you didn't approve of, then tough. It's only your opinion, and you haven't seen that mod in action yet. That mod is going to have to prove themselves first, before you can really start to complain.

Basically, stop complaining. Let the mods do their jobs. Wait until they hire again, but after this whole ordeal that sprung up, i don't think they would be hiring anytime soon.




That's it. No more Talk about this whole mod thing.