According to CNN.com the price of the Xbox 360 will vary.

300$ will get you a console, one controller that attaches through a wire, and your basic a/v cable.

An extra 100$ will get you a console, wireless controller, headset, the 20gig hard drive, and for a limited time, a wireless remote for use with the console's various other multimedia functions. Theyre even going to give you preloaded songs, videos, and other things onto the hard drive.

i heard that there's 2 types of the xbox 360 that'll be released:

one that comes fully-ready to play-out-of-the-box :)

and the other is like building your own computer...

I think I'll opt for the cheaper SKU.

That is, if I want it. If Perfect Dark Zero isn't all it's hyped up to be, I will lose interest in the 360.

[edit]Wow, the cheaper version stinks. I didn't know it wouldn't be Live and HD compatible. Don't even consider getting the $299 version. It's just not worth it.

for all the look issues the xbox haters have, why not look at the wonderfully sculpted PS3 controller? looks like an ugly ass boomerang.

the cheaper one is live compatible, it just wont come with live automatically. and the HD is detachable. the cheaper one is just the same with less accessories.

one big thing xbox has over PS3 is xbox live. Playstation's doesnt even come close

Exactly. It's not Live compatible out of the box. It's pretty much crippleware. It's not worth buying. The $400 is the one worth buying. But $400 is more money than I'm willing to spend.

Im gonna save my 400$ for this.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55865

well, the ps3 is apparently going the same "direction" as the xbox. DVR, dvd burner... etc. plust it will debut higher than the xbox. they seemed to have copied the microsoft strategy and are selling a "bare bones" one and a much higher priced one. and the other one is 500 dollars.

Oh please no. Sony will be shooting themselves in the foot if they use two SKUs.

are you serious dvr?? wth thats way too much. that isnt really necessary.

it looks sweet, i'll totally have to get it

Honestly, who is going to buy a "server" PS3 and a bunch of standalones?

Games used to be about family. They used to gather groups of kids and adults alike around one screen to create a family dynamic. It was like having a family dinner, but entertaining. And now its just become a cash cow, something people try to make more money in, or make more and more advanced, when FUN cant be advanced, technologically or otherwise.

Notice: Xbox 360 has officially said their release date.

US: November 22
Euro: Dec 2
Jap: Dec 10

Thoughts?

Yeah, didn't it come out in Japan last time first?

Check out the production line footage!

Oh god, hahaha. They are all chinese too. WOw.
Youhave alot of time on your hands don't you?

Wait, Im not every chinese guy on that tape, so no.

No Im kidding. Yeah this all took me like 10 minutes to find. The advantages of surfing different MBs at the same time are great.

So, which SKU is everyone planning to buy?

how about agaming cafe, where you pay money and play with your friends on a nice couch in front of a 66 inch plasma screen?

not sure if they exist, but they could.

Ok maybe in japan they do that, but Ive never seen a place like that that didnt prodominatnly use computers instead of game systems.

And it is aimed at families, not businesses.

SKU means...?

well, i'm assuming it means whether you're going to buy the ps3 or xbox 360.

i'm definitely getting the xbox 360 because i've always thought that the graphics are a lot better than playstation. i also like the controllers a lot more.

SKU means stock keeping unit. There are two Xbox360 SKU's. The Core package, which is the $299 package, and the $399 Premium package.


The $299 package should not even be sold, in my opinion.

Yeah, really. I mean, whats the point?

Now, I have a question, can you play online with the Silver Xbox Live subscription? Or do you have to be upgraded to play?

BTW, Im not getting one unless I win it from mountain dew, of which I have 5 caps now, so yay!!

Silver gives you everthing BUT online play.

Ok thats worthless.

Man. Both of the lower packages for this system stink.

I'm certainly impressed by the technical specifications of the Xbox 360 (especially from an engineering standpoint), but it does make me wonder: does a gaming system really need all that power?

I think so. With that much power, we won't need as much disc space to store prerendered FMVs, which are causing game sizes to skyrocket (FF7, I blame you). The console can use the games engine to create a scene that looks just as good as a prerendered FMV.

What worries me is that Sony and Microsoft are planning on using new drives that can hold more information. While this may not be a bad thing, I am worried that this will allow the developers to stay lazy and use FMVs.

Plus, the AI should be better.

AI won't get better. And it's not just Final Fantasys fault. There are other games that used the multi disk function. Remember Metal Gear Solid? Hey, even Rival Schools used it, not continuaslly. (spelling is wrong) But they still used it.

Also the Blu-Rays are gonna cost wayy much more. Same thing with the hd-dvd but not as much.

I think i'm going to like the 360 if I get it because right now the starting price is like a stab to the face.... Anyways... It looks like it's gonna have some good games.

i played the xbox 360 at best buy. i got to play a demo of call of duty 2.
let me just say.

sickest thing ive ever played. i played that same level about 4 times before i had to go without getting bored or anything. its freakin intense, god i love that game, this might make me change my mind about waiting for the ps3.


you should have saw it, they had so much security over the 360 haha. glass cases, bolts, metal, alarm, you wouldve thought it was like the crown of king Tut or something lol.

i want games that aren't just preordained action.

like.. if you want an action game, then make a game around battle royale. make it like battle royale. exactly, but with different characters. don't concentrate on good graphics. current gen graphics are fine. devote most the processing power to having 40 some odd computer controled characters that will hide if you come at them with a gun and they have a fork, instead of standing there stupidly trying to hit you with the fork.

and how about a naval game, where you're in charge of a ship? i don't think there's one of those.

and they you could have an 18th century version. and a pirate version. and a submarine version.

`sigh. all this processing power, and all it goes towards is some prettier lakes and rocks.



very open to sequels, just have different personalities, different characters, different weapons, and a different island.

and such.

and then like for racing games, where's the crashes? i played one with these great graphics, but the car was invincible. it wouldn't crunch. i hit other cars, they spun out, but remained intact. would be fun to see a pit crew run around the car, and occasionally mess up.


and halo. i tried to play halo. (well halo two). all i saw were aliens that you randomly shot at. wasn't really fun, if you ask me. characters in the game kept directing me where to go. still rather confusing. i must say the alien guts looked quite good tho.


how about a heist game with no guns? i'm sure there's probably a heist game, but i'll bet that you still carry a gun and you still battle the guards.

that'd be an interesting one- put in a racing part of it too.

They do improve on everything not just good graphics^ i mean if you actually play the games like i did, you'll see a big difference in gameplay. check out gametrailers.com or something if you wanna see the ps3 and 360 games actually played.
they made the AI incredibly smart in all the demos i played even Kameo. like in Call of Duty the people just dont wait around for you to shoot them. they try to flank your squad and crap, and actually out smart you. i mean they did that in previous console games so you should know most good games now the AI dont act stupid anymore.


infact the graphics on the xbox 360 werent as good as i anticipated, i mean dont get me wrong they were great, but they were kinda like graphics on a very high end computer game. so they definately focused on gameplay. and when i also played ghost recon 3, and alot of other demos like Kameo and such. the games are just..... i cant explain it, the entertainment value went up in ways that previous consoles just cant do. which makes them more fun and addictive and a totally different experience.

your depiction on what the games are offereing is very incorrect my good sir.



you dont no much about games do you? lol ever heard of "Burnout"?
you say you want a pit crew, look at this gran turismo

^

hmmm...

can you run over the pit crew?


they improve upon existing gameplay no doubt, but not on fundamentals, like the point of the game and all...

In fairness, IIRC, some developers have said they will use the additional power to create better AI. Also, try Forza Motorsport for the XBOX if you want to play a racing game with crashes. I play NavyField, an MMORPG, which is controlling a ship.

how about an 18th century pirate ship? because that would rock...

they made plenty games on ships ya know^ lol




lol

screw that. i've been cut off from the gaming world for too long.

ehh.

Sid Meier's Pirates.

how about one where you're a high school student and then suddenly one day when you're in school your high school flys away and it turns out half your classmates were aliens?

Halo 2

Next Generation starts 4 hours, 50 mins.

Man, $400 Xbox 360....$500 PS3....ouch.

As geek squad, I get to sell this thing.

That's right, because it's a computer.

*raises the roof*

Maybe I should go back to sleep.

my dad went to best buy this morning when it opened to buy it, but it was already sold out. some nuts camped out for days in front of the store. crazy people.

My local BJs, where I happen to work, is getting it, but not on launch. And they have no idea when it WILL be in.

Damn I want one, but I shouldnt spend the horrible amount of money for it.

I am a proud owner of the Xbox 360 Pro Bundle with Hard Drive... All for $719.24. Its worth the money...

This is the Error I got when I orderd Quake 4 with the bundle,

so far i've played PDZero, madden, PGR, Quake, and NFSMW, and they all are AMAZING!!!

so i take it, if you're still saying it's worth the money, yours did not crash?

i heard madden sucked major ass.

my dad's still trying to get his hands on the xbox. haha he'll go to a site online and it'll say that it's instock...then he'll press "add to cart" and it'll already be sold out. i feel sorry for him.

Someone I know said he is selling the Pro Bundle at work at Radio Shack but he doubted anyone would spring for it. Guess I can tell him he was wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Madden-NFL-2006-Xbox-B...1QQcmdZViewItem