Just want to say that if anyone has any problem with my moderation around the forums, please feel free to PM me or talk to me about it. About the whole "opening a closed thread to post their 2 cents and closing it," it happened only when I was in the process of posting something and the topic got closed right when I clicked "Add Reply." I even admitted to it in a thread. I also have YET to see someone explain why that should matter, as does uninspiredfae.

And although some people might think moderators are "inactive" and don't do their jobs, don't be so quick to jump and conclude that they don't do anything. Moderators can close a topic WITHOUT posting in it, if the topic doesn't need any explanation of why the thread was closed--it's a given. Especially if numerous members post "oh this should be closed." I've closed topics numerous times without posting because the reason why the topic was closed was either obvious or self-explanatory.

I agree with uninspiredfae because moderators do have feelings too. We're not perfect. I HOPE that those who critiqued moderator performance negatively did not critique due to personal conflicts between the moderator(s) and the member. I'm not pointing fingers, just stating. What you must realize is that being a moderator can be pretty tough at times. Agreed, we're all human, we're bound to make mistakes. I'm really passive about things and I'll forgive and forget if a member wants to settle a dispute with me casually. I'm sure most, if not all, moderators will do the same as well.

There, that's my two cents.

PS: Just because we're moderators does not make us elite and a hundred times better than regular members. As fae, other people, and I have stated, we're all human. Moderators are just give more privileges. But with privilege, comes responsibility.

Oooooh, touchè. ^

I love how the moderators are doing
Also they are just so nice. (well considering I am a n00b, its a first impression , but they are nice)

Keep up the good work

but think you should at least post a reason nevertheless as in consideration to the thread starter... becuase then they would have no idea to to PM to contest the closing of thier thread...

Personally, when a person goes against the community guidelines, I do not feel a need to explain myself to him/her as to why I close his/her topic. The first thing anyone should do is read the guidelines before posting a new topic. I find that posting "closed" and then closing the thread is cheating because my post per day would go up, but I didn't even post anything worth while.

It gets really frustrating when the same people are violating the rules even after they are warned. They KNOW their thread is problematic, if they don't, they should already have an idea of why... the community guidelines say it all. Rules are there for a reason.

I do think, however, that if it's the person's first mistake, maybe an explanation is warranted so that he/she will not repeat it... But it doesn't make sense to give members who have more than a certain amount of posts to be violating the guidelines... *shrugs* maybe that's just me.



I Christina.

And oh, I see what you mean Mr. Acid... But I don't want to be stuck with just the debate forum... like you... i've been kinda... eh... with it.

not every person that has had their thread closed with out explanation of a post from the moderator knows why... all im asking is that you could just post saying closed and if any one has a problem they can PM you

Okay... i guess. I still don't feel like it's a worth while post. I know how most people can be upset if a person post just one word and I don't want to be that person... but I don't want to be telling people to read the guidelines when it's they should already have done that.

But it is staff's responsiblity to let members know why their posts have been moderated. You're right.

its okay. but the several pointless and racist/offending topics are being slowly closed, making the topics more open to spam. i think the solution is just having more mods. but overall they do a good job

I don't see a lot of the mods on here anymore. (like, all of them. it's always the same ones)

What? Sorry, but that's just confusing. And it depends on which forums you visit...

Also keep in mind everyone, just because mods arn't contantly posting does not make them inactive. Many will read all the topics, but not always make a reply. They can still do their job without posting to some of the meaningless topics.

I'm not saying you are, but taking hours to close topics? Maybe we need more staff.

That usually happens for the People Staff because there are just so many sub-forums in the Community Center. Keep in mind that we don't just moderate, we want to enjoy cB like the rest of well, cB.

theres no guarentee that people will be on at all hours of the day. people have lives, and we dont exactly have representatives from every time zone in the world. most threads dont go hours, and even if they do, theyre not just collecting spam, so its really not a problem. were not neglenent, just not omnipotent

now see, if there were one mod assigned to each forum, then each forum would get checked over at least once a day.

But it would be quite boring if I, or any other mod, had to concentrate on one forum. it wouldn't be as exciting as going around the forums and hearing what other people have say and contribute at the same time in other forums.

hella yea! i mean a good mod to me is a great helper!
good attitude
somebody who knows the people
somebody who is really active
...

yea there should be more mods but not too many now...

i dont really know that much of the people staff.. i know more xanga staff cuz thats where i spend my time.. the only people staff i know is like Jeff

yea mods are doing good! keep up the good work mods

no complaints to the head staff/ blogger staff/ design staff cuz they do a awesome jobs! but sometimes i have some problems with people/xanga staff but there just doing their jobs.. there jobs arent just to close topics.. they have a lot of work to do.. they have lives too.. you know? yea some mods arent that active...

Ps:

Jeff is the nicest mod ever! God! always funny

I don't think adding more mods would accomplish anything. It would make everyones job more...RAWR.

You guys are doing the best you can, those who say otherwise just don't really understand that you are human and cannot moniter every aspect of cB 24/7

it's just a forum that you'd be presiding over and had to check over every day.

you'd still go around CB and mod wherever you went...

in fact; the only changes would be title wise: each forum would have a part at the top that says "Moderator(s): ___________"

and then, mods would still do everything the same, just pay more attention to keeping thier part of CB clean.

I guess. But like Elba said, this idea wasn't really popular with the mods. Also, you would have to talk to the admins and Jusun(micron) about it.

yea in some what way i agree with having a mod for each forum.. thats what blogring does i believe... but i like it the way it is now.. and i think the people staff are controll for those forum but to me mods should go in all forums to detect problems.. and yea the admins have to be convinced about that.. so yea. just like mona said but in more detail. but what would the mods be called for like the cars and food and humor?? like Car staff?? humore staff? Food staff? haha that sound too silly

We definitely don't need more moderators. What we need are the current moderators to be "more active" or a replacement of some of the current moderators.

yea i agree.. the admins should check all the mods and see if they are doing good or bad and if the admins think its right, the admins should replace them but currently i dont see no bad mods.. but some arent active since they have been updated as a mod..

the mods are great here. but since you asked...

some of them do have an attitude problem.

but i think frankie rocks. he seems so..so..so..human =X lol

^ ... What? Frankie's not a mod.

Those who have just joined this thread, please refer to posts where mods provided some explanation and/or answered some of your concerns already. Thank you.

even if we increase mod. activity, it's only going to be in the more popular forums.

it needs to be someone's job to check over a forum each day to see if any topics need to be closed or moved.

as for names, does car forum mod, debate forum mod, lounge mod, relationships mod, etc. sound alright?


you could have all themods be very active, but have them all active in the lounge and then it wouldn't matter how many were active.

They're nice but something bad happens, they turn into a monster.

OVERALL, THEY'RE DOING GREAT.

Ahh... just what I was thinking.
ALL of the mods are from the US... I think.
Probably some can be from different time zones, so there would be a chance at least one mod is online at different times of the day. Sometimes there are too many mods online at the same time, while sometimes there aren't any at all.

I think most are from the US...

hmmmmmm..
i stay up late on the computer, though. so it'd be 4am in EST and probably.. i dont know.. about 3pm in hong kong.

hmm.
okay first thing, when i close topics i try to [as much as possible] have a fairly good reason to close it. sometimes i don't because most of the peopl who noticed the threads will post " this should be closed" and don't say their aren't any because their is a lot.

i say we don't need any more mods, maybe more blogger staff. poor jackie. anyways, i go on cb a lot, even thought i don't post as much [ i never really do, as you can see by my ity bity 2,000 posts ] but i am active. i go here and see what the new topics are and such.

to what sadolakced acid, it is a idea i always pondered about, but then you have to realize that not all mods will be there for their own section, and it might foil this plan that you and other people might have.

OH yes, i am so sorry if i sounded really mean with my reasons of closing. i try to calm down but i can't because of stress or whatever.
[it can also be because of all the repeated spam or advertisments created by one person] i try to do my best.

but really it makes me happy to hear that you think we are doing a good job.

i christina.

edit;
guys, i feel like i just repeated what everyone has already said.
crap.

i think one of our current xanga staff Mona aka gotnoheart is from toronto, Canada? i think.

Don't worry, I used to live in New York before so I'm not a stranger, but Toronto is in the same timezone as NYC. =]

I think we have way too many mods, and many of them inactive. I can't really say anything for staff outside of people staff since I only hang out in the community center, but it seems that many of them glaze over on some topics for a while, leaving them open to either continual spamming or bashing.

For example, at this very instant while I'm typing this (it might be closed by the time I'm done), there is a thread in the lounge. The starburst one that's a repeat. I counted four mods (capable of closing/merging it) online when it was first posted. Now I count seven mods online capable of closing it. And it's been open for over half an hour.

edit1 nvm, it got closed. But you get the idea.</end edit>

As I was saying on inactive staff members, I know that y'all are human and I know that createBlog isn't your entire life, but in my mind, you made a commitment to createBlog when you accepted the position so long breaks just for the hell of it aren't really what I had in mind as commitment. Okay, so maybe you don't leave just because you feel like it. If you leave for a long time, I really think at least the community deserves to know that you'll be gone.

Also, there are staff members who aren't inactive, but just lurk on the site. I really don't want to name any, but I think we can all guess who they are. Sure, they're still around, they're not inactive, but they don't contribute to the site anymore, they don't post, and they rarely, if ever, happen to even execute any moderating actions. When they do though, we, the community, neither know nor see who closed/merged/moved/whatever the topic since the lurking mod doesn't post, thus causing the misconception in our head of an inactive mod.

edit2 Oh yeah, and also, just another thought, lately, some threads have been unneccessarily closed (imo). But I guess that's over. Whatever.

I'm from Vancouver, although that's the same as Cali time. In summer, though, I'll be able to mod the forums in Hong Kong time.

maybe users could vote on wheter to close or move a topic...

and thier vote would count the number of blue boxes by thier name.

warned user's vote value would decrease by thier warn percent.

when total votes are >25, then the topic is closed and an automated message inserted into the thread, saying if you don't want it to be closed, PM a moderator to re-open it, if they see fit.

i wonder if the forum softwar supports this...

i personally think if the topic starter says thx for helping me! or u can close this then the mods have their permission to close the topic.. voting would be more compleicated and just would give more people to spamm..

yes, but the problem is mods aren't finding threads that say 'close this' in time... or threads that are violations of the rules.

i still think the whole 'each forum has a mod' thing would be better for CB. sure, some mods might not like it, but it would make CB better moderated.

Uh...in a scale of 1-10... a 7.

You guys make a big deal outta SMALL things...

Do you mind giving us an example?

This thread is here to critique us, however, we can do no more to improve ourselves if we do not know what it is that needs improving. Please be more specific.

So, what kind of small things do we make a big deal out of?

well to be active for a mod doesnt neccessarily mean that mod gotta close topics.. they can be regular helpers like the rest of us.. and the one mod per forum is a good idea but all the admins/mods gotta agree on it..

Many mods just usually post in one certain forum. Like unspiredfae usually only posts in the debate forum.

all in all, the mods are doing a great job. however, when they're addressing questions and concerns (and i've noticed this when i read the "official membership" thread), they seem to have a tired, here-we-go-again attitude, and i find that rude. i would appreciate it if they were more positive.

If people actually read the rules for official membership instead of repeatedly applying without checking if they've met the requirements, maybe people wouldn't be so annoyed. I mean, they are pretty much voluntarily doing this stuff so you should be grateful.

If you all see a topic that hasn't been closed in a while, don't get mad if we missed it. I would take it offensivly if you guys tell me that I'm not doing a good job with closing, moving, ect. Because I am on here like...all the time. Maybe sometimes I'll miss some, and if I do just PM me! As long as it's closed/moved that's all that matters. You guys can do your part if you are frusterated.

To whomever suggested members vote on whether a topic should be closed or not... umm, no.

^exactly , that would suck big time.

Mods are supposed to close or re-open a topic.

ah, then why not have each forum have a mod that's 'in charge' of it?

mods may not like it, but it would make createblog a better place.

almost 20 hours now.

Yeah, but then what happens when one of the mods have to be gone for a few days? The forum would be left untaken care of. That's definetely not a good idea.

same thing that happens when a teacher is gone for a few days.

they get another mod to sub in for them a bit.

all mods would still have the same power they have now. it's just a naming thing.

But then what would happen to the other forum that the mod is supposed to take of? It wouldn't be fair for a mod to take care of 2 forums. A sub teacher can't teach 2 classes at the same time, you know..?