Technically the mods are taking care of more than 1 forum now, so why would it be any different to "sub"?

it's not that hard. you read over every thread with new posts in that forum. in the small forums, it's very easy.

the only harder ones would be the larger ones, in which if you had two people then it would be easier.

right now, all the mods take care of all the forums. It's no one's job to check over the writting forum, or the technology forum, specifically. they just mod as they go along.

as a result, some forums only get modded when a mod goes there. and in some forums that's never.

if each forum were to be assigned a mod ( or two), that mod, when signing on, would check over all the new posts in thier forum.

even if no mod were to 'sub' in for a mod who was gone, that forum would get modded as much as it is currently.

because mods won't be confined to thier forum. they just check on it.

20 hours

You know, this thread was made to address any problems or criticisms with moderator performance. If you insist on pursuing that idea, talk to the admins. I doubt they would approve since it was brought up before and rejected. But don't do it here. Thanks.

the title of this thread is

Moderator Performance, Suggestions/Complaints/Compliments

now why is suggestions there?
this is a suggestion. why cannot i discuss it here? this is a suggestion that will affect moderator performance. so why not here?

they way i feel is that, right now, being a mod isn't really a job. you just go around CB the way people normally do, but if you run into trouble you can do something about it.

now, if mods don't like this idea, then fine. why should it matter? being a mod is suppost to be work. this isn't even saying "you must only look at this forum". this is saying "look over this forum every time you log on."

22 hours

I reallyyy dont like that idea , cB is fine how it is , a few more *helpfull* mods will solve it.

could someone tell me why this idea won't work?

i know not many people like it. but tell me why it won't work. because right now, what i get is that people don't like it, but it would work.

22 hours now.

Suggestions for mods, not for the plans of createBlog. I see them differently. Have you been a mod previously here? I'm assuming not, so you wouldn't know how it works. Our job is not just to cruise around cB and see if we can do things about any problems that arise. There's no point in counting hours. It works, but in you're head, not exactly in everyone else's. If lets say that admins do approve of it, then I wouldn't care. I wouldn't mind doing it, but that is only if the admins approve of it.

the hours mean something else that will become apparent later. i'm not counting how long it's taking for it to be implemented, etc.

i'm posting this here to see if this plan is truely flawed, and to try to get it to gain accepance.

of course i haven't been a mod. i thought it would be work. but the way i see mods describing it, it's like being a member, but having extra power and the responsibility to use it to keep createblog in compliance with the rules.

however, it doesn't matter that i haven't been a mod. i can see, with my own eyes, the result of the current system.

some threads in complete violation of the rules don't get closed.

what exactly is a mod's job then?

sadolakced acid ,

well to me it make more sense to have one couple mods for blogger,couple for xanga stuff, couple for commuinity stuff, and couple mods for programming and designing... its more simplier that way instead of having few mods stuck to a forum.. so i say we leave it along the way it is now

the way we have right now is fatally flawed.

it would be the same as now, except for two things:

1) mods, when signing on, would check over a forum.
2) if there were a problem in a forum, people would know who to PM.

Well, it depends on what forum it was in. PM an admin or a staff member who moderaties that forum and express your concern for it. It doesn't mean that all the staff members are not doing their job and/or the system is flawed. Nothing in life is perfect.

as a reason why we should not necessarily implement the main forum thing, i would not be able to do a very good job moderating the forum, because about half the threads on here will just spontaneously shut down my explorer. i dont know why. but it makes me an unreliable mod because i cant get into most threads or even the internet half the time

No they don't; mods are categorized and then assigned to a few forums. For example, I'm on People Staff, so I can't close or move topics in Xanga showcase, requests, etc, because I'm not on Design or Xanga.

The system we have right now is VERY similar to the one you're implementing, except the one you have is more specific. It would be really inconvenient to switch mod powers all the time, because what if a Xanga staff needed to go away for a while, and no one could sub for them? Then someone from ANOTHER staff would need to PM admin to get them to make them able to mod the Xanga forums.

The way I see it, it's MUCH more convenient to just assign people to a few forums and make them mod those ones; that way there can be more people assigned to a greater number of forums and yet they would still be modded.

And besides, createBlog has always emphasized on the word "community". The individual modding system hardly conveys a sense of it, and makes it seem more like a competition than something that requires teamwork. They simply don't have the qualities it takes to be a mod.

The bottom line is, if our staff need competition from this individual modding system to be encouraged, frankly, they shouldn't be modding at all.

Or there could always be a couple mods that were especially there to be subs for when people were going to be gone for a while..

mods would still have power over all forums they have right now.

no power shifts. only assignments. only titles, only names.

ok. so the system isn't community like. it's more like a company. people compete. not good.

but still, it's better than the current system. the current system is flawed.

whats wrong with the current system?

I think Cb should stay how it is , I dont like the idea of a certain mod in a certain forum >_<

How the hell are we competing?

ok. i guess it's time for this:

to all mods: i'm sorry. i didn't mean that you guys weren't doing your jobs, or your jobs were easy. i'm sorry if it sounded that way.

all mods(to my knowledge) are doing thier jobs well. what i'm saying is the job description needs a bit of changing. it's nobody's fault.

also, i don't know what it's like to be a mod. i shouldn't assume so. however, i based my statements on facts. i'll put them in later, because they won't have weight right now. (probably around... thursday i'll put in what fact i'm basing my assumtion on.)

i know modding is not easy. i'm sorry if i made it sound like i thought so. I didn't apply to be a mod (well, seriously) because i knew i didn't have the time or dedication to do the job well. i'm sorry for making it sound like it was easy.

to everyone: i guess i didn't explain the idea thing well, so it sounded strange.

here is a complete explination of how 'my' (not mine, as it's been proposed before) system would work.


1. mods(people staff) would pick a forum to have thier name added at the top, saying moderated by _________.

there are 8 forums in the community center.

there are 13 people staff (not counting admin/head staff/xanga/blogger staff)

there are certain forums that get more traffic than others.

these are( to my knowledge)

lounge, entertainment, interests, and pictures.

interests is further subdivided into 10 subforums, which about equal traffic.

so, each forum would have one mod 'in charge' this would only be a job description change tho. each mod (people staff) would still have have moddly power over all community center forums, like it is now.

there would be 5 more mods than forums. these would double up the 4 higher traffic forums, and the 1 left from that would go to either lounge, or interests.


now, all mods(people staff) would still mod like now, the change being when the log in, the check all new threads and posts in 'thier' forum.

this will ensure that each new post will get reviewed by a mod(people staff) in a day or so.


if, for some reason, that these are not enough, xanga/blogger staff could be also 'assigned' a community center forum to check over every time they log on.

this would add 12 more mods, so that each forum could have 3 mods, with one having four.

these duties, however, would in in addition to the current ones, so mods would still do things that they do right now.


now: the benifits of this would be:

1. each forum's new threads and posts would be checked over (eventually).
2. if there were a thread in a forum that needed a modly action, members would know who specifically to PM, instead of choosing from a list of 25 mods, 2 head staff and 3 admin.
3. any others?

and the disadvantages:

1. larger work load for mods.
2. it's a change.
3. any others?

i hope that explained it in total...

^personally I like it better like this, there is a bit more freedom for us mods.

Ok. Here is my er.. 3 cents. There are a few comments I would like to address

1. We need more mods-I dont think we need any more moderators, or people/xanga staff anyway. Another few blogger staff would be nice, but not many people are interested it in.

2. Mods aren't very active- First of all, I know it has been said but we have lives. and we do alert other mods when we are going to be gone. For example, I have not been on at all this week due to my school play. I know where you guys are coming from, but try to see it from our point of view. We dont get all annoyed when you guys go on vacation or something, so please return the favor.

3.The issue of closing topics- usually an explanation is not needed. The mods here use their best judgement on what is considered appropriate, and what abides by the rules. The topics may not be closed right away, but there isn't a mod on every second of the day. You have to understand that we have other obligations besides CB.

alright that's enough for now.

well, someone finally found it.

rogue thread

took some 52 hours.

way too long if you ask me.

what thread? what forum is it in?

and thats why we have that dreadful little report button

^it was in the car forum he made the topic on purpose to see how long it would take to be closed.

ok since everybody is telling what they are think ill tell what i think:
i personally think we need more blogger staff cause not enough question are being answered in the blogger help section... like i said before about having mod per a forum would suck.. (no offence) Mods being active i think mods are doing a good job for that except for maybe 1 or 2 mods. Mods do have lives of their own. We all have our personal problems and cant spend 24/7 on cB. You think mods dont wanna spend time on cB? but they do it's just that they sometimes can't, have bad timing, or have hw or w/e to do.. As long as there trying their best to become a good mod.. and if a topic hasn't been closed feel free to pm that mod, there not gonna get mad at you, and anyways its your job to help out the mods... and to the mods keep up the good work

That is what I have a problem with. Staff from Xanga/Blogger don't moderate the Community Center. We don't have the moderation options for it. It would be sort of abusing powers is all Staff had control of all the forums. That's what the Head Staff (and Admins) are for.

well, i said it as an option, not a nessesity.

if more 'mods' are needed, specialty forum mods could be picked. they would only have power over one forum. they're workload would be a lot lighter, and they wouln't be as powerful as the other mods.



and, well, you see. users have been warned and threatened against using the report button. so it's not used that much.

there needs to be a button to flag a post or thread for a mod.

people get warned for hitting the report butotn cuz there is nothing to report they just click it for no reason... and report is for more bigger stuff then closing topics..

you can use the report button when theres actually something to report, just dont try to post through it

but what if two members are having a bashfest? neither one would report.

that would be their fault and both of them would get warned..

the only reason we're all GRR STOP PRESSING THE REPORT BUTTON is cause 90% of the reports are people who think the report button means reply. the reports go as PMs to ALL of us, and sometimes people don't seem to get that it DOESN'T mean reply and we get 5-10 PMs in our boxes that don't pertain to anything.

it's annoying. we're not discouraging the use of the report button, but only use it for things that actually need to be reported.

yes!

like a little red 'needs closing' flag next to a thread, and a blue one for 'needs moving'

i like that idea

how could that be implemented? you know there will be some idiot member who'll just flag everything for fun.

whats your point? someone else should. why would they?

remember when i was a mod, and i wrote this?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18871

back then there was a lot of mod bashing going on. nowadays, not so much.

anyways...

i do think that some of the skins as of late have been... really...subpar... i know the admins have always been kinda blah about rejecting skins.. they were like that when i was a mod too... but cmon.. some people are letting skins be accepted that seriously look like shit.

i think sometimes the mods can be excessively analytical, or will sometimes drag things out for way too long so they can "plan" every aspect of it. for instance, the Xanga of the Year awards... it took the mods two months into the new year just to figure out how things should proceed. they're taking it way too seriously, in my opinion. xanga of the year is just like xanga of the month. the only difference is, it's not days of the month.... it's months of the year. they worried too much about the technicalities, like... extending it till january of this year, because it would then make 12 months, instead of just using the 11 months that we did XOM last year. it's xanga of THE YEAR 2005. not xanga of the first 12 months of cb. after that, they were quarreling over whether the contest should be based on the skins that originally won in their months, or if it should be judged on the current skins on the winners' xangas.

they failed to realize that not everyone saves their old skins.

but it's in the past, and afterall, i won, so we can move on... but that wasnt the only time theyve been like this.

another example is how they wanted to close/unpin the Advice Abby threads, because abby hadnt been updating for two weeks. it's like these mods have the need to control every aspect of cb, and i dont know if that's just a result of how the admins took away some of the mod privelages (which i wont state here for the sake of discretion), so the mods are just trying to gain control of SOMETHING, even if it's the smallest thing like Advice Abby....

Abby is a person like everyone else. she has a life. just because she hasnt been around in two weeks, is no reason to get all uppity about it. why dont you just close all threads in the lounge that arent posted in for two weeks, if you're really going to act this way?

now theres been an issue over how much I, as a member, know about the inner workings of cB. people on the staff have been really paranoid, and especially the admins. (and no.. no ones telling me about this, but i know this through the pms between me and two of the admins that they've been wondering how i know certain things.)

it's like.. ok.. .they just forgot i used to be a mod, and was THERE when most of things began to unfold. i was the one who SUGGESTED some of these things... so OBVIOUSLY i know about it.

i think a lot of the mods and admins these days are just a bit neurotic.

i havent the faintest idea how ot do it. i dont know computers. i imagine that a 'flag' icon could appear, in the same way that 'edit' and 'report' do, or similarly.

as for idiot members, ban their IP. thats kinda the point of the threat. that you actuallly carry it through on occasion

Well..I don't think we've ever like banned anyones I.P...but thats a good idea with the Red Flag thing..if that works, I don't know =/

Oh, I feel so unspecial. Nobody cares to respond to my paragraphs.
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yeah sorry. I'll get right on that. I haven't been here.

i should be a mod for entertainment or fashion forum... who are the mods there anyways?

^People Staff moderate everything in the community center.

i think the performance is good.

Hell no. & Elba answered your question already.

Yeah, because it's too hard to click the report button.

haha noo it isnt your fault we need new blogger staff anyways.. it makes me seem interested for blogger staff... your doing good! haha

she answered my question.. after i asked it... and yes i should you just a hater.. i am probably the most active head in entertainment and fashon and the most knowledgable head there too

You're too cocky.

Because you mods are always bitching about how we use the report button for minor things, and I hardly think a thread that should be closed merits as a major issue.

please no arguing... and yea people should just click the report button if there are too many bashers/spammers.. but cloing a topic just send 1 mod a pm to close it...

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and i think Basick would make a good ass people staff!

^x2 I, for one, have never complained about a report that actually contains something that needs to be fixed. I've received reports about topics that need to be closed before, and I don't see the problem with them. Don't assume we all feel the same way.

And besides, the report page doesn't say anything about the problem having to be big or important. Anything that goes against the Community Guidelines, basically, can be reported.

The only time mods get pissed off at reports is when people give us REPLIES to a topic or just irrelevant reports.

thank you!! you can be my campaign manager.. basick for peoples staff in 2005!
lol call me cocky but am i supposed to be so unintellegent that im not allowed to state my opinions at the risk of being arrogant?