littlewhite
Mar 28 2005, 07:34 PM
i was wondering about this topic, however, i am kinda neutral about shark fins though.
lilphoenix
Mar 28 2005, 07:36 PM
Face it... we're carnivorous.
Sharks eat humans, humans eat shark fins. Eh, what to do?
iheartjohn
Mar 28 2005, 07:36 PM
Why specifically shark fins?
I guess I'm neutral about it. Probably something I wouldn't try when I'm sober.
smile4me
Mar 28 2005, 07:39 PM
i dun get it...why not chickens? or...pig..or...or...
souldreamers
Mar 28 2005, 07:42 PM
^^^ yea.
why wouldn't it be humane? I'd try it.. you know what it tastes like?
Sumiaki
Mar 28 2005, 07:50 PM
QUOTE(souldreamers @ Mar 28 2005, 7:42 PM)
^^^ yea.
why wouldn't it be humane? I'd try it.. you know what it tastes like?
It tastes really good.

I <3 Shark Fin Soup.
I guess I get what you're saying. But i don't think it's inhumane. But what about dogs?
suddenly she
Mar 28 2005, 08:53 PM
just as long as that shark isn't endangered and if that shark's existence stays stable. in a good way.
but i wouldn't, still.
mzkandi
Mar 28 2005, 08:59 PM
shark fin eh? i wouldnt mind trying that
sadolakced acid
Mar 28 2005, 09:04 PM
it's over-hunted...
sharks are caught, their fins cut off, and then the carcasses thrown back in the ocean, to make room for more fins.
it's causing a decline in the shark population.
basick
Mar 28 2005, 09:08 PM
its good
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 09:26 PM
Excuse me for posing the vegetarian argument, but, eating meat period is humane if put into perspective. Animals are bread, slaughtered by the masses and then served up for someone else to eat? That sounds a bit inhuman to me. People make exceptions because as human beings, we generally eat certain types of red and whte meat (steak, chicken, fish, etc) and the fact that humans are atop the food chain is a cause for justification.
Still, if we can survive and grow strong off of fruit and vegetables (and soy, holla!) alone, then why not switch to a more healthy and more human diet? I watched Super Size me and practically vomitted midway through, and I don't have a weak stomach. I'm not going to sit up here and tell everyone carnivore on this forum that they are wrong for not becoming a vegetarian/vegan but do yourself the favor of visiting a slaughterhouse. Then, eat meat shortly thereafter, you'd change your mind.
I believe eating sharkfins is inhumane as well as catching sharks to begin with. So what a shark ate a surfer? The shark was there first, you were in its territory. Ya shouldn't have been there. Tough.
Spirited Away
Mar 28 2005, 09:29 PM
I don't understand... haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Mar 28 2005, 8:29 PM)
I don't understand... haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.
Chicken Broth Vegetarian style
-water
-dab of vinegar
-salt
-red pepper
-chicken seasoning
pandamonium
Mar 28 2005, 10:00 PM
we are carnivorus and its humane if we eat any animals especially even humans. we eat meant i wouldnt be suprized. there are tribes in fiji or however you spell it that used to eat men. its our nature
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Mar 28 2005, 9:00 PM)
we are carnivorus and its humane if we eat any animals especially even humans. we eat meant i wouldnt be suprized. there are tribes in fiji or however you spell it that used to eat men. its our nature
If we choose to defy our nature and change our ways, then wouldn't our nature then become what we've changed to?
basick
Mar 28 2005, 10:13 PM
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Mar 28 2005, 6:29 PM)
I don't understand... haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.
the texure tastes good*
wind&fire
Mar 28 2005, 10:17 PM
i see nothing wrong... its cultre... if you want it to stop seek genocide
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 10:22 PM
QUOTE(wind&fire @ Mar 28 2005, 9:17 PM)
i see nothing wrong... its cultre... if you want it to stop seek genocide
Oh, so it's culture for fisherman in Seattle to decide to bait and mutilate sharks? Thats one sick culture. If you're referring to a less advanced tribal society in the micronesian that eats sharks, then I understand. But, if you're referring to Americans, then you should rethink that statement.
lilnatcat
Mar 28 2005, 10:27 PM
Now that u mention it........I think it is tasteless and it requires some thickish soup base................
Sharks fin soup is realli nice, not to mention freakin expensive!! >.<
Mn.....sharks fin is like nothing comapred to what other animals that are eaten.....like yea........dogs....cockroaches.....

But why specifically "shark fins"?????
wind&fire
Mar 28 2005, 10:30 PM
well we cant live off fruits and vegetables alone and you cant change the ways of 3 billion people .. you do make a good point but they do this for the money,
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 10:38 PM
QUOTE(wind&fire @ Mar 28 2005, 9:30 PM)
well we cant live off fruits and vegetables alone and you cant change the ways of 3 billion people .. you do make a good point but they do this for the money,
Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.
And for all of you Christians unsure of this argument, here's a nice lil' quote for yous.
Isaiah 66:3
He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
wind&fire
Mar 28 2005, 10:41 PM
then what do we do with the chickens and cows are we to just release them into the world to roam?
iheartjohn
Mar 28 2005, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 28 2005, 10:38 PM)
Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.
If no human ate meat, some species of animals would overpopulate the Earth. But that's a whole other debate.
ItzOnlySydney
Mar 28 2005, 10:45 PM
i like my meat, biotch!
i have eaten meat b4 and all you tree hugging flower picking queers and gonna stop me!
thats my dad's favorite saying when ppl say he eats too much meat lol
mzkandi
Mar 28 2005, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 28 2005, 10:38 PM)
Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.
And for all of you Christians unsure of this argument, here's a nice lil' quote for yous.
Isaiah 66:3
He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
thanks for the sermon but man dont go there with the regilious point of view, its just a shark, it doesnt need to get that deep. Though I did find the part about burning incense interesting, i burn incense all the time. And are sharks we are talking about about endangered or something?
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 10:47 PM
QUOTE([f)
eleeza,Mar 28 2005, 9:44 PM]If no human ate meat, some species of animals would overpopulate the Earth.
As would man. With an abundance of nutrients in our bodies, me and women would become both more fertile and more sterile.
I apologize for being the assumed 'tree-huggin hippie' by posing this argument but allowing certain species of animals to roam the earth isn't something I'm opposed to. I'm much more against the senseless mass murder of steers than I am those same steers walking around the plains of Texas, minding their own business.
With the sermon, I was simply supporting the statement with esoteric that certain people can relate to. See, I don't think it's just a shark. To you, maybe. To me, its a representation of what we've (broad generalization) become as inhumane human beings. So its ok to do such a thing to shark just for fins that, apparently, do taste good?
ItzOnlySydney- Such an insightful response! I'm not saying eating meat is bad or wrong, however, the way in which the meat is obtained is just morally wrong.
sadolakced acid
Mar 28 2005, 11:02 PM
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 28 2005, 9:38 PM)
Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
hehe... technicallity here.
meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide. However, your body makes them themselves.
beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet. unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 11:06 PM
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 28 2005, 10:02 PM)
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
hehe... technicallity here.
meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide. However, your body makes them themselves.
beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet. unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.
Which explains the vitamins the doctor recommended. You and your damn technicalities, Acid.
Whats your take, in depth on the shark slaughter?
iheartjohn
Mar 28 2005, 11:10 PM
You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?
fameONE
Mar 28 2005, 11:30 PM
QUOTE([f]eleeza @ Mar 28 2005, 10:10 PM)
You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?
Yes. Sharks like hammerheads and great whites attack their prey by charging it once or twice then disappearing while the victim bleeds to death. The shark then returns to feed. The bigger the meal, the longer it lasts. A full grown sea lion, for example can last a shark 2-3 months. Discovery Channel will get ya.
sadolakced acid
Mar 28 2005, 11:42 PM
shark hunting needs to be regulated (it already is, but better) like whales were. If a shark is caught, all of it should be used.
the problem with fin hunting is the same problem that happened with tusk hunting and elephants.
however; regulation will not help that much, cultural changes are needed.
many far-eastern cultures eat shark fin soup; however, there are ads in these nations trying to curtail the consumtion of shark-fin.
the reason why sharks cannot be over-hunted is becasue they are an integral part of the food chain. if an overhunting were allowed, it would be akin to removing the wolves from yellowstone.
aznxdreamer
Mar 28 2005, 11:54 PM
QUOTE(lilphoenix @ Mar 28 2005, 7:36 PM)
Face it... we're carnivorous.
Sharks eat humans, humans eat shark fins. Eh, what to do?
first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.
do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean..

. im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.
fameONE
Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM
QUOTE(aznxdreamer @ Mar 28 2005, 10:54 PM)
first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.
do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean..

. im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.
That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost.
Sumiaki
Mar 29 2005, 02:00 AM
Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one. It's natural. I see no reason to feel ashamed or sick. Why should I?
wind&fire
Mar 29 2005, 03:14 AM
Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...
yellowgurl
Mar 29 2005, 03:20 AM
QUOTE(Sumiaki @ Mar 28 2005, 4:50 PM)
It tastes really good.

I <3 Shark Fin Soup.
I guess I get what you're saying. But i don't think it's inhumane. But what about dogs?

i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs?
mysticbreeze
Mar 29 2005, 12:16 PM
QUOTE
Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...
Don't come into debates just to make dumb little statements to annoy people.
...Anyway I think the killing of sharks to take thier fins is wrong. Like someone stated before, the shark's fin is cut off while the shark is still alive and the rest of the body is thrown back into the ocean. It's cruel and unnecessary.
QUOTE
i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs? blink.gif
That's inhumane too but this debate is about shark fins.
QUOTE
Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.
Wow you're sick.
HongKongDong
Mar 29 2005, 04:39 PM
QUOTE
Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.
Agreed. Food is food,
QUOTE
first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.
do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean.. . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.
Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.
The two sides can quarrell all they want, there will be no real conclusion to come of this. Personally I dont care. Like someone said above, food is food.
sadolakced acid
Mar 29 2005, 04:54 PM
by that logic, whaling should be allowed.
the reason why it's inhumane is because it's depleting the shark population. Some species are endangered. others are soon following.
Angel_Cece
Mar 29 2005, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Mar 29 2005, 4:39 PM)
Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.
but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.
Pulchritude
Mar 29 2005, 04:59 PM
i had shark fin soup before.. i dont really remember what it tasted like... well sharks dont eat us on purpose unless you bother it with it;s territory...but its like us eating chicken, fish,duck, and w/e...
HongKongDong
Mar 29 2005, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Angel_Cece @ Mar 29 2005, 4:56 PM)
but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.
Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.
A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?
Angel_Cece
Mar 29 2005, 05:06 PM
QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Mar 29 2005, 5:04 PM)
Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.
A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?
don't you think its also cruel to hunt other animals for food? Chickens are almost endangered....
HongKongDong
Mar 29 2005, 05:11 PM
Chickens are almost endagered?

But but, the farms, and the many chicken eggs... oh wait now I remember... but chicken is good... dont think I could ever not eat chicken.
It is cruel, at the same time it is "human nature." Its the way of life, animals hunting other animals, us ourselves as humans are just another breed of animal life. We hunt and eat others to survive as do the rest out there.
sadolakced acid
Mar 29 2005, 05:39 PM
if sharks could be farmed, and only the farmed ones were killed, then it woudl not be inhumane.
ryfitaDF
Mar 29 2005, 05:52 PM
people eat tiger penises. people eat fish eggs. people eat shark fins. big whoop.
aznxdreamer
Mar 29 2005, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM)
That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost.

if i went vegetarian..i would turn anorexic. im 90 pounds, 14, and 5'8. its for health reasons.
misoshiru
Mar 30 2005, 08:11 AM
its inhumane because what they do is, they kill a shark just for its fin. sometimes, they just cut the fin off, and throw the shark back into the water.
damn...but it tastes good.
KwanYin
Mar 30 2005, 08:29 AM
Chinese said that u will be more beautiful after eating the shark fins.
Do u believe dat?
Weird addiction
Mar 30 2005, 09:10 AM
i think its human but i also think eating shark fins is disgusting.
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