I agree with you whole-heartedly. I just was getting a bit irritated so I said something sarcastic out of spite.

most pros out there are mommas that r jus tryin to put food in their kids mouths but nowasays with these std's and whattnot its gotten to the point where its not like u can keep track of it that much anymore so pros gotta b arrested for this stuff cuz it aint safe for the general public

True ^^^ (All Hail GEORGE CARLIN.. that man is a comic genius)

Anyways I do believe it should be legalized already, in our economy its so hard to make a decent living so if a woman (or man) is willing to seel their body, I really don't see the problem, as long as the person is an adult, child prostitution is a no-no.

I see is just the same as stripping, and most strippers become prostitutes, they just need the money, and I can't blame them for that, some have kids to feed.

and for the above comment, a lot of prostitutes insist on condoms, because they know the dangers, and about the general public? How do you deem it not safe? It like buying a CD with a parental advisory sticker and then complaining that the CD has swear words, you are aware of the risks when you pay for sex, and if you mess around unprotected your problem.

its their body; they haev their own choices.

Ultimately, thats what it comes down to, right? I know I started this thread, but I must say that the point isn't really being argued anymore

I hope it never becomes legalized. I see enough of it done illegaly as it is. Who knows if it became legalized how many young girls would quit their jobs as waitresses or cashiers so that they can make "the big bucks".... maybe to pay for college? especially nowadays with crazy tuition fees. Then it is pretty much downhill from there...they lose theirselves/respect to the business, never to get a decent job again.....because prostitution looks real good on any resume, that is the legal kind of course

I think that it's the own woman's fault for being so foolish, i would want to have it illegal but then if i think about it again. Maybe this is the only way for some woman to make money o_O well it's a free country so im not sure.

I personally do believe it's wrong. But the debate is about more than what I personally believe. It's about the truth.

I do believe that a woman should be aloud to do whatever they want with their bodies. Period. If that means selling their bodies then sure, why not? Right??

Wrong. Prostitution can lead to the spread of many STDs of all natures. Risking people's lives for a petty one-night stand that you have paid for is just plain immoral. Period.


To sum it all up, yes. I do believe it's wrong.


I would like to comment about iNyCxShoRT's post. Although I do agree that the America is suposedly a "free country." But even freedom should have some limitations when it can endager the lives of so many people.

Bump.

I remember having this debate in a government class not too long ago. It seems like prostitution has always been legal in Nevada. I'm surprised that it's legal because I think it would create a downhill slope toward the legalization of other things, such as marijuana then crack then meth then heroin and so on and so forth.

I don't think prostitution will be made legal across the U.S., but then again there are lots of forms of prostitution that the federal government cannot control, for example: what about the women who sleep with wealthy men so they can live a nice lifestyle, drive nice cars and wear expensive clothing. That's prostitution, but nothing can be done to stop it.

pimpin' ain't easy

I disagree, sir.

It definitely is.



What's the difference?

Porn's legal so I think prostitution should be.

I mean, in the end, someone is getting paid to have sex with someone.

Because porn = prostitution.

I don't think there's anything wrong legally w/ whoring yourself out. Your body, you should be able to do what you want. If you choose to have sex w/ a hooker and you get AIDS, that's on you. The govt should butt out of our every day lives.

"The bitch ain't gotta be no streetwalker to have a pimp."
The BangBros might as well have purple suits.

Sex sells and the economy, overall, will benefit from it. The industry should be maintained to a standard and concentrated to a specific area. If I was into that sort of thing, there is a whorehouse in jogging distance of the main gate. Why? Because Japanese people aren't bent out of shape about a woman selling her body.

If prostitution was legalized, i think the hos would have better protection from the government, and they wouldnt get abused by A Pimp Named Slickback.

BITCH, YOU'VE GOT 45 SECONDS!

....44....43....42...(etc)

Look at this way, free health care to the whores coupled with some workplace protocol, and the burners could be out of a job. So the only women you'd have sex with, is just your college student paying for tuition, or "hoe-ass-gold-diggin-ass-bitch" as opposed to walking disease.

Yah. Daily checkups/testing would be required which would in turn decrease the spread of stds

"Bitch, I don't give a f**k if its snowin', I want you out there hoein'. This is a muthaf**kin' binness!"

Any business, no matter what it is, needs to be handled professionally. From McDonald's to coke deals, and IBM to strip clubs, without the professional aspect, the business will fail.

The black market is very lucrative though. Not a complete success, but definitely not a failure. In the very least, there is certainly enough monetary gain to inspire people to hide smack up their ass in condoms.

And, to be a bit more on point: If you're going to call yourself f**king free, it's sort of f**king essential. Legalized prostitution allows for the regulation of business transaction and appropriate licensing - this means frequent medical examinations to prevent the spread of STDs, safe and clean environments for both employee and customer, and a fair percentage of earnings for workers. This is all very good. Not to mention, when you really consider it, it's an important and thoughtful public service. Some people have very serious issues in find companionship and intimacy - prostitution allows those people to live happier, healthier, and more fulfilling lives (while someone else gets to pay their way through college from it).

Beautiful.

What do you think prevents the US Government from hopping on this gravy train?

Religiosity, the moral right, politics, and f**king old people. Just about the same sort of reasons that The Drug War will never end. These people have created such a culture that believes and finds unity and strength in the moral crusades of those things they perceive as icky and scary. It would take a lot of balls for a politician, elected of the people, to challenge any social mores or norms.

Oh, don't forget the patriarchal fear of the strength of women. White old men hate the fact that women can love sex and, even more so, freely choose to take a career path that involves them making money off of this love.

You do realize that a lot of porn is stimulated sex, right? I don't even think they do hard core inserts anymore. (Don't ask me how I know that term. Hahaha)


See, that sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I'm not sure if these services would get taxed though. I imagine they somehow would if Uncle Sam has his hand in it. *snigger*


We are a prude nation, there's no denying that. And you've hit the fear of women loving sex right on the nose. Sex is a powerful thing and if women actually have a say in compensation for sex, it would be a scary thing indeed to most older men. Of course, I'm sure many of these older white men have no hard time whatsoever seeking these services illegally.

Cha-ching! Money shot, baby!



It feels as though I've been too far removed from the United States' pace of life, because as I read your response, I said to myself, "oh yeah, I forgot about that." The more you restrict someone from making such a decision, the more it becomes desirable and the more people will fight to bring about change. The American mindset of "apple pie in the window," and white picket fences, should be crushed like a roach under a sledge hammer. Americans have individual views and fantasy of living the dream, which, of course, throws these 1950's moral ideals out of the window.

I think it should be legalized. On the one hand, it may be degrading to women and it is something that is very dangerous, but of course there is another side to this. Some women unfortunately don't have the skill set that it takes to obtain a normal minimum wage job. Instead of trying to hustle or what not, they sell themselves on the street. I think that the prostitution game is the biggest hustle ever. I for one would not be upset if they legalized it, as I believe that people have a right to make ends meat anyway they choose. Who are we to judge whether somebody is doing it right or wrong.

1. Regular prostitutes
2. Tax them
3. Reduce pimpin violence
4. People do it anyways, legal or not
5. You don't have to engage in it, so f**k your morals and beliefs

Uh no. You can't "tax" prostitution. Sorry.

You can if it becomes a legal business.

Dutch authorities treat prostitutes as independent entrepreneurs. Working girls (or boys for that matter) have to submit the income tax declaration and pay taxes. Amazingly, in 2007 the judge decided that the VAT which strip dancers have to add to the bill for their performances should be not as on other services - 19%, but lower - the same as on art and artistic performances – 6%.

Right... because people want to be taxed for making money off their body? Do you honestly believe that the prostitutes themselves will conform to this taxation? C'mon man =\


It's one of the reasons why marijuana will never be legalized and taxed. It's uncontrollable.

Legalized marijuana would be fine. People are lazy, and would rather buy from a pharmacy instead of buying from someone who they can get arrested for dealing w/. Besides, prostitutes don't get most of the money they earn, their pimp does (Assuming they have a pimp). Prostitutes get abused by their buyer and their pimp, and I think they'd gladly pay taxes when they're earning 5 times what they were before.

I'm against prostitution but for legalizing it. That might seem contradictory but I think it should be legalized mainly in order to offer some protection and wellbeing for the women involved. Women prostitutes get used and abused all the time. I think that regulating this would rid of this problem, maybe not fully, but at least to an extent where prostitutes can have some protection. This would also change the way prostitution is handled. Instead of trashy women who are putting themselves in danger, a prostitute could be more high-end and have the ability to pick their clients, instead of being forced. Also, many prostitutes probably contract diseases because of the unhealthy way they work and their poor work conditions. This could be fixed by health codes. Besides that, prostitution makes large sums of money, money that the government could tax. Obviously sex sells in any form. Why not have our country benefit from this money?

i say legalize it. it's gonna happen regardless of if it's legal or illegal so i agree with the others, at least this way there can be some kind kind of rules or regulations.

if the bitchez costs 2 dolla dolla bill everybody will supa happy

i think if they're gonna legalize it then give them medical coverage too. god knows what they can get from their customers and pass on.

Not only would it be impossible to tax prostitution... but legalizing that alone would cause even more divorces, more futures of children destroyed, more broken families =\



Nah because that would be a big liability. Plus it would become an epidemic beyond belief.

Honestly, people are going to get divorces regardless, there are going to be broken families no matter what. I don't really think that prostitution would have much of an effect on this. Besides, prostitution is around right now anyway. Also, if a couple gets a divorce because the husband or wife cheated on the other by means of prostitution, then there is clearly an underlying problem within that couple and the person who cheated. Again, people CHOOSE to engage in prostitution, so it would be that person's morals or whatever that would and should be judged if they engage in it when they have commitments to another. I don't think prostitution would be a reason for there to be an increase in divorces or broken families. IMO the person's character/morals/beliefs (or lack thereof) are really what is the root problem in divorces and broken families.

How would it become an epidemic? If there were health codes put in place, then in theory, then the spread and contracting of diseases should decrease. Then those that are already in prostitution could maybe be treated for whatever they might already have or they would be "fired" from their job.

Im all for it if these hoes get free AIDS test and STD tests for doing this.

I know that sounds stupid but I mean if it was to be legalized at least offer them some sort of discount on it.

isn't prostitution the reason why the NY gov resigned anyway?

I know prostitution has always existed... all I'm implying is, the numbers of divorces alone in a time period of a year would rise even more. Legalizing or making it easier access to getting laid when your woman is out of town, or she's on her period, or assume she's cheating would only cause a problem that could have been avoided.

But because the man thinks with his penis, he figures, "well shit... the only way my woman's gonna find out that I'm sleepin around is either A. evidence on my body or B. someone witnessed it and told her, like the police would when you're involved in prostitution". But because it's now legal, shit no one's gonna tell my lady, and if she questions it, I'll just simply deny it.

Plus do you know the rise of STDs?... lol Cheese dick, cheese clit, drip dick, drip clit... ugh.


As to how it would become an epidemic? With prostitution (and I gotta find this government site so I can back this up) it is known that men tend to lean towards "raw/unprotected sex" I'm not saying all prostitutes have STDs but some do and some will. Same with men who are looking for a few minutes/hour of fun, they might have STDs or even HIV but who's to stop them? The woman wants money like the man wants pussy. It's mutual.

Over all... prostitution would increase, because of it being legalized. Women will be more opened to prostitution just like college females who are more opened to strip clubs to make their tuition. If prostitution increases, it would increase unwanted children being brought into this world, along with an increase of diseases.

I find it great that women find it ok to legalize prostitution lol (strong sarcasm).

How bout someone here who wants to legalize it, go out and look for prostitutes and ask them yourselves if they would agree to legalizing and taxing prostitution.


Also if you believe in legalizing prostitution, then I believe in disclosing people's STD/HIV information to the public via database. No more privatizing people's conditions.

Wow, I was going to make a topic about this Steven but you beat me to it. Was just learning about this in lecture last week. Anyways. I think what Chrissy said sums up where I stand on this.


That's why it is better to legalize so we can regulate the Prostitute Business. The client and clientèle will have AID/STD checkups daily. I mean, if we don't legalize this, prostitution will still occur no matter what, and they are higher at risks for STDs because they either don't know it, or they don't care because nobody will know. Regulating the clients will make prostitution more "cleaner".



I don't think it would make it easier access. I mean regardless, go to the slums or downtown. There's clients all over the streets just waiting for customers. How is that not easier access than say to regulate prostitution?


Also taxing prostitutes, would be very beneficial economically wise. There are some cities who legalize it and tax on it already, and it has helped them economically. You might say, yes prostitutes wouldn't want a share of their earnings to go to the government, but legalizing it would make it a very safer and better condition for them to work in. They get to be more professional about it, and they would get to pick their customers through a full checkup. It would decrease the number of pimps and the violence that goes around in the Prostitution business. Overall, I see some of the drawbacks, but there are way more benefits to legalizing it.

As I stated before, then there is clearly an underlying problem within that couple and the person who uses prostitution as a means of cheating has their character at the root of the problem. People cheat regardless. Just because there is an easier way to do so and the temptation increases, does that mean that everyone needs to be weak-minded and engage in it? No. It has nothing to do with prostitution but the way America (at least IMO and I can't speak for other places since I've only ever lived here) is progressing. People are becoming desensitized and succumb to their temptations more often.

You keep mentioning this epidemic and rise in STDs. That is why I stated that it's necessary to have health code regulations in place. If the man wants unprotected sex, then he is denied a prostitute. It's not as if you'd just legalize prostitution and let it be. You would have to set up rules and regulations. Maybe the client already has an STD. Well why can't we set up a regulation where the client must be tested BEFORE they are allowed to engage in anything? Sure, it might be another hassle and I'm sure tons of people won't want to do it. Then tough shit, they can't engage in it. If it shows up they have something then they can't engage in it. Also pregnancy is the risk that prostitutes would have to take - if it was legalized then they would know what they are getting themselves into. I'm not saying that it's going to be perfect if legalized, because of course people are going to try to bend the rules and find loopholes, as they always do. If prostitution is regulated and legalized then women probably wouldn't feel the need to take EVERY single man that wants to have sex with them. Like I said in my earlier post, they could pick and choose their clients. I mean whose to say these prostitutes won't just work certain hours on certain days and maybe pick up another job. I don't think it's necessary to group all the women prostitutes together and say they are money hungry. Some are forced to do this, some do this because they feel like they have nothing else going for them...I mean there are plenty of different reasons.

Also, YES if prostitution is the job they choose to have then yes I do agree with you about (somewhat) publicizing their STD information. I mean don't people get drug tests for a job? Sure, that information isn't exactly disclosed to the public; however it does determine whether or not they get the job, etc. The same procedure can be done for prostitution. Also, I'm pretty sure there aren't many procedures you need to go through in order to work at a strip club, although I wouldn't know for sure. Prostitution doesn't need to be an easy job to get into, and in that case, probably wouldn't increase. Also, if you work as a stripper what dangers are you putting on yourself? Are you risking pregnancy? No. I'm sure there are women that wouldn't want to even risk that they could possibly get pregnant and would rather engage in stripping at some club.

So basically you want the government to spend more money than it would receive in order for prostitution to be clean, legitimate, and anti-viral?

And I agree even if it wasn't legalized, prostitution is gonna exist.


I think it would. Easier access because people don't have to go through a mission just to talk to the prostitute to begin with. There's no worrying about under cover female cops just waitin for you to say, "how much" just to bust you and put a nasty mark on your background.

It's also easier access because if it becomes legal, it won't only exist in slums. It'll exist in any part of the country. Whether it's in high class towns, middle class, or low class. It'll be legal to exist just about anywhere. Bowling allies, clubs, bars, disney world lol...



Can you give me your source? Only place that I know of where prostitution is legal and taxed, is in Europe, well Germany. And it's not the "per sale" that's being taxed, it's the "property" tax in which houses the prostitution. On top of that, the legalization of prostitution is actually causing problems in parts of Europe, in terms of politics, they thought the people wanted legalized prostitution, but it looks like the people want it unlegalized.


Guys, the argument that not only legalizing but making people who are involved with prostitution (women and men) get tested for STDs and HIV is just ridiculous.

If you were to make every employee and customer get a 100% analytical STD/HIV test done, it would cost about $3000 per head, depending the location of course. A prostitute or a company of prostitutes is not gonna charge some loser from the slums over $3000 just for some damn head. Keep in mind that this business has to pay bills, taxes, and it's employees, while also payin for every drug test on every single employee (prostitute) and client. lol

There's only a couple of states, and Nevada is one of them. There are brothel houses, and they are legalized and regulated extremely. These prositutes are consider independent contractors, meaning that they don't get the label as being unemployed, or retired. Therefore, they are required to file tax to the IRS.

It's actually been studied that ever since 1986, which was when they actually started having a mandatory testing of HIV/STDS before being employed by the brothel, there was not even one single brothel house that tested positive. Then two years later of course, they had another law that required you to wear condoms, and the use of condoms were very consistent and STDS were absent.

Can you give me your source for that? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass about it, but I'd really like to see.

In response to your edit, I'd also like to see where you got these figures. I always assumed that STD testing WASN'T that expensive. I mean planned-parenthood does those kinds of things at a low cost. Am I misinformed or are we talking about two different things? Also, you say prostitution will increase - do you mean employment-wise, client-wise, or both? I don't really see why it would have a huge increase in either area, but I've already stated my reasons why earlier so I won't reiterate. Also, all companies that require drug testing have to deal with paying the bills, taxes, employees, and tests themselves. If other companies do, why can't prostitution, especially if (as you say) it will greatly increase?

"planned-parenthood" that's all you had to say.

Right now, go to a clinic and ask for a full analytical STD/HIV test (full analytical STD/HIV test, is basically someone testing you thoroughly against every possible STD and HIV. There's no program out there that will give you a full analytical STD/HIV test for free or low cost, there is health insurance though, but most likely won't cover it. There's some programs that are for teens, for parents, etc... they're just programs for the local people with certain needs.

But you're talkin about tests for prostitution lol... tell me what program out there is willing to give out free or cheap tests for their employees and clients, in the field of prostitution.

This is capitalism, they're gonna charge them serious money knowing men are sex crazed and sex sales.

You didn't give me your sources.


I mentioned planned parenthood as an EXAMPLE. Clearly, we were talking about two different things, which is why I even asked if I was misinformed or if we were talking about different tests.

Obviously I know of no program, yet, otherwise I would have mentioned it. One can be made and implemented though.

You say they will charge some serious money, so if this is the case, then why not? It's for their safety and for the safety of their employees. Also, maybe being somewhat high priced isn't such a bad idea. Then it would limit the clients and if this is the case, prostitution would not increase either employee-wise or client-wise, and then less problems right? Seems that majority of your argument is that prostitution will cause problems because it would increase; please correct me if I'm wrong.

Why do you keep sayin this country is run by the moral majority? When we all have witnessed in the media all immoral things that have gone on?... If they're so moral, why would they legalize it in Nevada in the first place? C'mon now.

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Okay, and you couldn't just fucken PM that dude so you can give him a fucken blowjob instead of posting that crap in the middle of this?

Because the cost of the STD/HIV tests alone would cost more than the cost for a woman to give oral to a client. The idea of legalizing prostitution while enforcing STD/HIV tests (and of course they want thorough tests done) on both parties (prostitute and client) would be silly. The price for sexual pleasure would cost a hell of a lot, thus making the client want to look on the streets for cheaper sexual pleasure, thus making prostitution "healthy and legal" ridiculously useless.

I don't think you read the article, if you have... you;d see the reasons why many countries are debating why or why not to legalize it. And it's problems like in that article that make many powerful leaders just ignore the request.