Because this country is run by the moral majority. It doesn't matter that there are immoral things happening because the US hides behind this veil of morality and "doing the right thing.:

you contradict yourself, banana. try using PM yourself?

Until they're caught having sex with male prostitutes, doin drugs, goin on sex raids across the country lol.

I didn't even SEE the article, because if I had I wouldn't have written "You didn't give me your sources." I didn't see it because you put it in my quote, which I didn't re-read since I had written it.


When did I say this country was run by the moral majority? And besides that did you not even read my posts about divorces where I stated that America is full of immoral people that succumb to their temptations? So clearly I know that all these immoral things go on. I also stated in my first post that I am against prostitution morally, but that I am for legalizing it for the wellbeing of the women involved.

That article talks about trafficking and child prostitution, which I believe is a whole other issue that would need to be addressed if prostitution was legalized. Despite what the article stated, it was a little outdated by a few years and I have heard the opposite elsewhere. I think it was from my teacher in a class I took last semester. He talked about it but I don't remember where he got his sources.

I was speakin to fameone... and there was more than just child prostitution... =\

Oh, I know, but I'm saying that it talked about trafficking and child prostitution as a problem that is increased with legalization of prostitution. I should have been more specific.

Be not mistakened, there's no way in hell I'd buy into the government's hypocrisy. This whole Eliot Spitzer scandal is yet another reminder of how ass-backwards our government is. Ol' boy's a super-delegate for someone running for the president, and the Clinton campaign team is trying to supress the fire and backlash from the media and general public. But as soon as anything questionable arises; like a proposal for a red light district, or rezoning of strip clubs for placement in suburban areas, or the marketing of sex aids on retail shelves, then morality becomes a big issue.

My gripe is that it needs to be clear across the board of what is morally acceptable and what isn't. And if something goes against the moral code laid down by the state, then it shouldn't be tolerated. If the government can't adhere to its own arguments, then arguing morality is completely pointless and the focal point should be revenue. "

How much can we make off of these hoes working the street corner?"

Or how much will we lose in tryin to provide STD/HIV tests for every prostitute and client? And all I'm sayin is, our government doesn't use morality anymore... It used to when the Christians had a strong hold on the Government. But ever since Zionist got a hold of it, all they cared about is making money and wasting off the Middle East and claim their oil for pure profits. =\


To think that it could be possible to get tested for free, every prostitute and client is just crazy. How the hell will the manufacturer of the testing kits, needles, containers, etc... make money? How will clinics make money?

Especially right now how the country is actually going through a recession in the economy. Yes that's right, recession, it's been happening for a long time, it's not just a one time thing, it's a process of the economy dropping at a non stop rate. Which is currently happening.

Legalizing this will do nothin especially with the fact that the article I posted explains how countries that are involved in legalized prostitution are upset because these "brothels" aren't even payin up their tax dollars.

Anyways, I'm bored of this topic.
I'm outs.

One of the biggest reasons why STD's in Japan aren't as big of a threat as the US is because the US is melting pot. Our country has a higher rate of diseases. Granted, the girls here are tested, and required to be clean (fuck that, she's still a nasty hooker), it's an easier process.

I just wish that overall message to the American people wasn't to be the crusader for good, an just be honest, "we want to run this shit."

many women are human trafficked into the United States.
They are enslave, often raped many times per day. Most trafficked victims have no advocate. They have no voice. And in the end,most will die from disease, violence, and a broken heart.

If prostitution were legal and more available, there would be less rapes. Besides, people do it anyway already.

Let people do what they want so long as it isn't infringing on anyone else's freedoms.

There is nothing immoral about prostitution. You're not hurting anyone - religion just tells us otherwise. We need to stop putting sex on a big holy post-marital pedestal. Sex is just as basic of an animal function as eating or breathing. Plus it feels pretty f**king incredible and people should have the right to have as much of it as they want, even if it means paying for it. Plus it just so happens that the happiest people I know are all self-proclaimed nymphomaniacs.

As for the "moral majority" bullshit, that same moral majority got us George Bush in the White House. That moral majority is pretty goddamn stupid.

No... computerized votes is what brought Bush into the White House.

Maybe, but not the second time.
Which is when it gets a little more saddening to acknowledge, considering that we elected the guy TWICE, after we already knew what a crap president he was.

How?... the Floridian vote was done again... in his favor. Via computerized voting.

That was with Al Gore, first election. That was where the voter fraud was.

Second election was against John Kerry, and Bush managed to win by a wide majority.

I didn't read the whole topic excuse me.

But I want to say something about the people who vouch for prostitution and think that a woman selling her body is a choice.

Honestly, I don't know any hooker who's happy to get some cash for getting f**ked in all 3 holes of her body by at least 20 men a day. Then again... I don't know any hookers...but that's beside the point.

But wouldn't legalizing prostitution promote these wanton professions over real jobs? Wouldn't this encourage women to demoralize themselves rather than taking the right path and getting some college degree or having an honest woman's job. Maybe I'm an idealist but I seriously doubt prostitution is a woman's dream job, even if they need it for the cash.

Why promote prostitution as a legal profession when these women can be directed to other jobs or even to finish/complete/take up their education. Instead of increasing our hooker population by 10291092109%, let's increase our women-who-work-in-offices-or-some-other-stuff population by 2382983928392%. (please pardon my eloquent way-of-speaking).

And how does prostitution decrease rape? Sure that's a good prediction, but that is if every rapist can afford it. I'm sure not a 100% of rapists are of opulent status and I doubt brothels merchandise 1$ hookers (the great dollar menu?)

Sure legalizing something can help regulate it. But (excuse me if this was a weak or bad analogy) look at fast food chains. It's a completely legal and booming industry and yet many of its owners comply to very poor restrictions/regulations. I'm sure most of you understand what I'm talking about. Heck, thousands of fast food customers are now suing these companies for encouraging obesity, although it's disputably their fault for over-indulging. Can't the same be said about prostitution? Maybe you can regulate prostitution, but not all systems are flawless and there are ways to get around, and if it means spending less money and hagging more customers, I'm sure prostitution tycoons will go for it.

I don't know. I'm not as smart as you guys neither did I read the whole page but it just doesn't sound right to me. Sex is a perfectly beautiful act and prostitution makes it seem so decadent.

It is a choice (save for anything not mutually consented that isn't relevant to the debate, because rape and enslavement are unanimously contemptible). However much reluctance is present doesn't change the selective process. That would be equivocating disinclination with actual, constrained subjugation.

With that said, sex is disgusting, and so is prostitution, not least of all ethically reprehensible. But a choice, it certainly is.

If I had it my way, sex would be illegal and we would procreate through chestbursters.

There is one. There are thousands and thousands more.
You do realize that the state of Nevada has legalized prostitution? You do realize that it is a very successful, safe, and profitable institution? You do realize that women voluntarily work there?



Real jobs? Real jobs?! Like what?! Being a maid at a shitty motel? It's hard to find good paying jobs if you don't come from old money and want to make something of yourself in a capitalist government. I don't know about you, but I think the social service of providing companionship, care, love, and sexual gratification for another human being is not only a real job, but a great one! That's a job to be proud of!

To use one of your own analogies: backing fries in vats of grease may be a so-called "real" job, but it pays for shit, makes you smell like shit, and treats people like shit. In a capitalist hell-hole like America, it's hard to find a job that's meaningful and can truly help people... prostitution is that job!



Are you that ignorant that you'll seriously try to make this argument? Yes. You truly are.

We all give sex away for free all the time. Why make it illegal to sell it? All that happens when you criminalize something like prostitution is the propagation and creation of crime and black markets. You make real criminals, and you make real victims. Without a regulated and safe environment to work in, women (and often young girls) are taken advantage of by street gangs and pimps looking to exploit their helplessness (and take most of their profits at the same time). They are constantly put into dangerous situations by having no reasonable means to screen their customers. They are often subjected to sexual, mental, and physical abuse - all which often results in a further degradation and depression. They are truly in pain.

If we legalize prostitution, we can eliminate a black market that causes a great deal of harm to a great number of people. We can create a safe-haven for girls who want to continue their work, or support themselves, while helping their communities, and having safe, clean, and consensual fun. We help eliminate the spread of infectious diseases. We provide women with the profits that they deserve from their own work. And, we save lives all at the same time.



Not everyone agrees; but, can we call our country free if we decide, since prostitution makes sex "decadent", that it must be criminalized?

Hey Ladies/Gentlmen. I am doing a presentation on prostitution. It is a college course so i am expecting somewhat of educated answers. Please explain as to what you believe in, are you for legalizing it or keeping it illegal? I know it is legal in Las Vegas but I live in California. So please let me know how you feel and why. Be totally honest because I am not one and I just need this for reasearch statistics LOL Thank you for reading!!


Hopefully this topic will help as well:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=202071

It's legal to have sex for free but illegal to pay for it. Seems dumb to me, and I'd go with making it legal. *shrug*

Moved to Debate

Hopefully this will revive this forum.

Prostitution is illegal because men/women are paying for it.

^ Yeah, it'll really make a difference with the millions of prostitution topics already out there and what not.

Anyways.

I personally think it should be legalized. That way, the girls get more security, they'll have to pay taxes, everything can be monitored more carefully (since it's legal), and there can be STD/etc prevention. Among a few reasons.

So people these days are for selling their bodies? Would you do it then since you believe in it?

i'm against it. i mean i don't see why you would want to "sell yourself."
just have sex! lol

I am for it. Hoes need to make money too ya know. i think that they should legalize it though, along with weed, ephedrine, etc.

I'm with you on that!

I think you've completely missed the point of why people prostitute themselves.

Yeah, if they were financially stable and a little bit slutty, they can go out and have free sex with whoever they want to.

Unfortunately, the world isn't so shiny for everybody, and some women who don't find it within themselves to work at a legitimate job, resort to using their body as a source of income. It's not as if they want to have sex with the people that pay for it.

And the men that go to prostitutes? It's a sure-fire way to get laid. None of the work, none of the wooing, they don't need to be attractive... they just have to have access to money and they're getting their sex.

^no yeah i know. but i'd rather work at mcdonald's instead of resulting to prostitution.

THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT WAY OF STATING HOW YOU FEEL. I AM ADDING THAT TO MY PRESENTATION! THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT.

well, obviously. and i'd rather finish college, be a doctor, and buy cars with cash every other weekend, but we really can't account for other people's actions, now can we?

^well yeah, we can't but that's my POV on it. i would personally never partake in prostitution.


you've made good points. kudos.

There is no good reason that we should criminalize the act of paying for something that we can just as legally give away for free. All we are doing is created criminals, and worse, criminals that create a more dangerous, more expensive, and more bothersome black-market - if we were to legalize prostitution, it would really help a lot of people, save us a lot of money, and make this nation a cleaner and safer place.

dat gitta b fukenn dumm shiett evur...



uhh.. howw...

When my grandpa was 80 years old he picked up a prostitute.
Turned out to be an undercover cop

I love my grandpa <3

waaa.... hahaha wat happinn...

omg, that's twisted. lmfao. haha.
im kinda for it, i mean its THEIR
choice. not like it affects anyone...?
well, idk. i mean if they want to do
it, and the people to pay them dont care
so why not? i mean, i know its wrong and
all. but its their choice? im confusing
myself. lmfao

lol yeah im not sure why he really did it.
but i know he has also tried to have his way with the neighbour.

Surprised he was never counted as a sexual predator XD

I think it should be legal.
If you're that desperate, and it's what you choose to do, you should be able to.

haha, that's funny. xP you sound like you
have a cool&interesting family. haha.

lol yeah they can be quite entertaining.

yeah, sounds like it. haha.
my family is quite boring
at times. xP except for how
loud, and fobby they are. haha

if pepz wanna sell dere body let them do it...that there biz...long as dey don't mess wit da guy im foolin wit...but den...wit me he won't need no one else...

I would say that I am for it only when it is the last option. Otherwise, it is not needed.

first of all i think its completely disguisting

But...

its legal to pay for a massage so y not for a massage with a happy ending?

well im not really for it but if its the last option you have and your desperate then you do what you gotta do.

i mean if your just getting payed minimum wage and some family member is dying and needs expensive medicine well thats the fastest way for a man or women to get cash by selling thier body.

Did you even read the entire post? It's all there.

Prostitution is something I have no real opinion on. I have never paid for one, and don't plan on it because regular sex with someone you actually enjoy being around is much better.

Also, you don't know what the hooker's original gender is.

I wouldn't want your "real" opinion even if you had one, and I certainly don't want your fake opinion. If you have an argument, I might be interested... however, if all you care to share with us is an opinion, save it; that's not what the debate forum is for.



P.S. Not everyone has that luxury, nor does everyone in the world agree. Some people think that sex is best with people who are good at sex. Hmm?

*ahem*...you fuken dum u thank lega that shit ginna prevent std...safe n clean environmunntt... ez dat sum kinda joke man..

more fulfilling lives... U GITTA B FUKENN prince...

n then u got some other gaayass post bout u debatin the post u posted... so i dunno wth u doing there..

one post say ye it kool.. the other say nah don't... pick one so i can OWN u ass in...