ok, i have been thinking about this for a good 3 months now and i still can't make up my mind..

should i get a 20g ipod or an iriver h10?!

i can get the ipod for the same price as the h10 because my friend got an ipod for christmas but she doesn't want it so she said she will sell it to me (280 bucks.. it wasn't even taken out of the box)

but.. i also like the h10 but i heard that there's a lot of problems with it...

anyone own a h10? and if you do, do you like it?? what are some of the problems with it? and which one would you purchase if you were in my place, the ipod or the iriver???

i don't own an ipod or iriver.. but my friends do. I would totally go with the ipod since i think it's awesome.. but then the ipod is more expensive i think and it's bigger than an i river.

there's a lot of things you need to consider.

first off- the H10 is only 5gbs.

do you have more than 5gbs of music?
the H10 does have a few problems, but iriver's warrenty is quite good.

call them up, describe your problem, they give you a number, you ship it to them, they ship you a new one (or the same one fixed).

if you want to know more:
www.misticriver.net is a good site. Just if you post something, read the FAQs and use the search function first.

personally i'd buy the iriver H320. (i did) i got it for 260 USD, which sounds like your price range, but that was because best buy was ceasing to stock them.

they are currently 300 dollars; but you'd have to buy online so there's shipping involved.

you'll probably end up getting the ipod, i guess, becuase it'll be cheaper than the iriver H320 and will hold more songs than the H10.

just be careful- if it's broken, the warrenty only applies to the original purchaser (in most cases). you can always say it was a gift tho.

Are You kidding? Get the Irivier, Ipods suck. They break too easily and their warrenty is terrible. If you try to get it fixed, they wont because the repair team is the biggest bunch of idiots you will ever meet. The Iriver is just better. Also you might wanna get it so you can stick out and be unique, cause everybody gots an ipod.

i dont get why everyone hates ipod?!?! :/ i just think you dont want to buy it because you are buying a name and not a good product but in all sences it is a good product

because there are better and cheaper options, and most people only want ipods because they're "cool"- not because they're the superior product. that's how it mainly is around my area at least.

iriver... i think sony mokes iriver.. ipods are just too comon

if iRiver has a lot of problems
i think you should get iPod

but i heard iPod break too easily [same uLoVeMikeRoch ]
i think you should find other of iRiver :)

no, iriver makes iriver. iriver is a company.

Ok well lets see....

Advantages Of the Iriverh10



-Compact
-Light weight (3.5ounces)
-compatiable with MP3 and WMA formats
-View JPEG photos and album cover art via 1.5-inch LCD
-Built-in voice recording and FM tuner with FM recording capability
-touch screen, to choose playing options
-The iRiver H10 comes with earphones, carrying case with belt clip, USB 2.0 cable, AC adapter, and installation CD-ROM

Dis advantages of the Irvierh10

- If your a harcore music listener than 5gbs is not enough for you
- Doesnt work on any operating system but windows


ThereFore i rate the Iriverh10 a perfect 9/10


Advantages Of The Ipod20gb



-20 GB model holds up to 5,000 songs; supports AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 (32 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible, AIFF, Apple Lossless and WAV
-Up to 12 hours battery life when fully charged (typically 4 hours); fast-charge in as little as 2 hours
-Mac OS X or Windows 2000 and XP compatible; FireWire and USB 2.0 interface for fastest digital transfer available
-Feature upgrades from previous version include new Click Wheel, slimmer case, and easier navigation
-Comes with earbud headphones, AC adapter, FireWire cable, and USB 2.0 cable
-weight 5.3 ounces
-Dimensions


-Includes a full calender,alarm clock,voice and voice recorder

Dis Advantages Of The Ipod20gb

-Wieghts more than the iriver


Ipod rateing 9.5/10

Theres alot of things to think about.. i think i would choose the Iriver, Becuase of the full colorscreen and touch screen and its light weight.


Oh u know how your friend said 280bucks.. the Ipod20gb is only 222$

haha... wouldn't it be perfect if it was a 10/10?

i would go with the iriver, except i have about 10GB of music. if you have more than 5GB of music, then you should go with the ipod, but if you don't, i would definitely go with the iriver.

one of the reasons i like an ipod because its simple... its not all lightsy and has alot of features.. i like ipod because you dont need a voice recorder i mean how often are you like hmmm i think i want to record my voice today?
and what if the voice recordeings take up a giantic amout of space? can you pull the voice recordings and put them on your computer!?!?!

i just want a simple mp3 player.... thats all you need it for to play music not all the other crap

that's just becuase you're jelous other things have those and ipods need to pay to add them.

jk...

anywyas: ipod doesn't have a lot of features.

and voice recorder can record live concerts, it can record from the FM tuner, it can record from line in... and lots more.

and it creates an MP3 file so yes, you can put it on the comptuer.

im debating on this as well, but im leaning towards the ipod right now. while the iriver isgood, my computer is still on windows 98, which it is apparently not made for. while the color screen without the ipod photo price plus the extra features would be great, i dont especially need the other features, and id rather hae more storage space, so that i can have a decent amount of cds on there. i was also considering the zen micro at one point, since its supposed to be good for people with windows who dont want to get completely roped into itunes, plus its small and cheaper, but again, not enough storage spcae. i considered the iriver h320 as well, but i am shallow enough to want my mp3 player to be pretty

the h320 is pretty in my eyes...

tweeak, you should consider the Zen touch.

i was considering that too, but id really rather have something not quite so bulky, because ill be carrying it around in my purse a lot...

it's really not that bulky... just a cm wider than the ipod, and a bit thicker.

nothing you'd notice if it was in your purse... unless you purse was super small.

this is what i dont get why is everyone aginst ipod? so what if alot of people have it? so what if you think the warrenty sucks when its accuatly really good... maybe you arnt trying to be like everyone else and not get a ipod so you get something else when there are a lot of people have an iriver... they are pretty much the same damn thing its just if someone wants to record something sure get the iriver but if you want something that is just for mp3 and be just yourself get an i pod what makes a differance to change someones mind about an mp3 player?!?! i say get what ever YOU want thats all that matters

the iriver h10 is sexier. plus it's lighter

and the ipod is like.. everywhere ugh if i had one i wouldnt care lol.

oh, really? id heard that they were big, and it seemed to be when i measured them all out comparitively, but it was like 2am at the time, so i was prone to mistakes

I can flick an ipod with a middle finger and it will break. Thats how easily they break.

if it's the same thing why are you getting so angry? she asked us for help, and we're saying the extra features on the iriver are nice even though they may not get much use. she obviously couldn't decide which one SHE wants, so that's why we're giving our input.

ahhh don't get angry!! all i want is your help and opinions!

thank you everyone for your input.. i forgot to put that i don't have 5GB of music... yet... and i dont think i ever will reach 5gb...

i want the iriver but i did some research and a lot of people are having problems with it (like firmware and stuff).. that's why im so hesistant to purchase the iriver.. ahhh

.. i am so confused!!!!!

depends on which zen you're talking about.

don't get the Zen Xtra, that uses a laptop drive and is quite BIG.

however, the Zen Touch is only a about cm wider than the ipod, and is the same hight. i think it's a little thicker too...

the best thing for you to do is to actually hold each in your hand and try them.


xx angelbabu xx, go to misticriver

this is an iriver enthusist site, and it has an H10 section.

if you have problems with your H10 (if you get it) the FAQs will help, and you can ask the helpful people (just make sure the question hasn't been answered already... some people might get mad at you.)

it's a generally helpful site; it provides info on iriver's updates, and iriver is actively working on the H10.

i believe they recently released a firmware upgrade for the H10 that fixes most of it's problems... i didn't pay much attention to it because i don't have the H10.

but check out that site; it should answer your questions.

anyways: how many CDs do you have, what bitrate do you encode at, and how many CDs do you think you'll get?

oh, no, i was definitely thinking of the zen touch. i mean, i didnt think it was drastically bigger, but i thought it was more than that. i would like to hold them in my hand, but i dont know anyone who has anything besides forms of the ipod. (a remarkably large amount of people bought the ipod shuffle, and they seem to not have caught on yet that the ipod minis are a horrible deal)

i have an ipod mini it is great. i can have up to 1000 songs and it doesnt really go by fast. i added a lot of cds to it and i dont even have 200 songs yet
plus it has a calender, games, etc.
thats my opinion

for the same amount of storage space, you can spend a lot less money for more features than you can for an ipod mini. its about the worst deal out there (well, you know, as far as ipods go)

Hmm. I never heard of iriver h10. I think I did, but I can't remember... or wait. I think I know because my brother has it hehe. Well my brother loves it a lot. He said he rather keep it than having an ipod because the irvier h10 is smaller than ipod.

well, go to best buy where they'll have them so you can check them out and feel thier size.

zen touch: 4.1 in x 0.9 in x 2.7 in

Ipod 4th gen: 2.4 in x .57 in x 4.1 in

same height, 0.3 inches wider, 0.33 inches thicker.

if it's going to be in your purse it won't make much a difference.
it's if it's going to be in your pocket then it would matter more.

and remeber, the touch gets twice the battery life as the ipod.

it'll make a difference on long trips where you won't have time to charge.

hm, maybe ill reconsider, then. i have until august to decide anyway, seeing as i cant afford one myself

ipod. iono why.. i just love mine so...

i think you should go with the ipod.

20gb ipod

I'd go with IRIVER. :] Ipod is too expensive.