visualfusion
Mar 31 2004, 05:42 PM
I believe both theories of creation and evolution is extremely faulty because of the lack of evidence and the constant rebuttles between the two sides.
What do you think?
CEP
Mar 31 2004, 05:45 PM
Rebuttles.
I go for Evolution. Only because most of the board's probably going for creation.
- Chinkieeyedpnoi
waccoon
Mar 31 2004, 05:51 PM
DisneyPrincessKate
Mar 31 2004, 05:58 PM
I think that God just took a huge hand in evolution. If he had told the people who had written the Bible about evolution they never would have believed, so he told them about Adam and Eve. That's what I believe.
annchovie
Mar 31 2004, 06:05 PM
i believe in god's creation. but i also believe in evolution. meaning like he created us (as humans not primates), but other things, like bugs or animals or reptiles, evolved.
krnxswat
Mar 31 2004, 06:32 PM
Creation.
kevinma03
Mar 31 2004, 06:41 PM
*RELIGION ALERT RELIGION ALERT*
This is gonna turn into another religious debate. Just like the politics thread and the abortion thread and that other thread... forgot the topic.
hybrid
Mar 31 2004, 06:43 PM

why forget the topic? Why can't people learn some debating crafts in this forum?
Anyway, I say creation. Just because I don't the whole evolution thing..
CloudUnionX
Mar 31 2004, 07:17 PM
Someone find me proof of either one.
bluecrystals
Mar 31 2004, 07:38 PM
i don't know what to believe in.
wayne
Mar 31 2004, 07:51 PM
creation
Kathleen
Mar 31 2004, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Mar 31 2004, 5:45 PM)
Rebuttles.
I go for Evolution. Only because most of the board's probably going for creation.
- Chinkieeyedpnoi
I voted for evolution! Proof? We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal. Besides, the Bible says that the Earth is only so many thousands of years old, but scientists who study the Earth estimate that it's about 4 billion+...how can that be? Heh...well, I'm an aheist, so yeah...that's just what I think about it...I don't really want to argue...
waccoon
Mar 31 2004, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Mar 31 2004, 8:00 PM)
I voted for evolution! Proof? We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal. Besides, the Bible says that the Earth is only so many thousands of years old, but scientists who study the Earth estimate that it's about 4 billion+...how can that be? Heh...well, I'm an aheist, so yeah...that's just what I think about it...I don't really want to argue...

good point - if it's thousands of years old - is god lying to us?
hybrid
Mar 31 2004, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Mar 31 2004, 8:00 PM)
We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal.
I think I know some with real monkey DNA.
CEP
Mar 31 2004, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 31 2004, 8:03 PM)
good point - if it's thousands of years old - is god lying to us?
Is God even there to lie to us?
[ insert shocked/OMG/WTF face here ]
- Chinkieeyedpnoi
kevinma03
Mar 31 2004, 08:06 PM
I believe in evolution. The current evidence points towards evolution rather than creationism.
Kathleen
Mar 31 2004, 08:24 PM
Yeah, honestly, is there even slight proof that "God" created us? There's already proof that we're closely related to monkeys, so...
AmesBond
Mar 31 2004, 08:35 PM
Evolution seems to have most scientific logic behind it whereas Creation is just a whole bunch of religious people yelling at me that God made everything and when I ask them why they tell me the Bible tells them so. Well, where's the reference page for that?
waccoon
Mar 31 2004, 08:49 PM
xislandxstylex
Mar 31 2004, 09:58 PM
i believe that God created us. You don't need proof. just faith
Kathleen
Mar 31 2004, 09:59 PM
Yes, this is similar to that other thread waccoon posted above.
stryker76
Mar 31 2004, 10:00 PM
Well....i have my own beleifs.....no nothing with god...i personally do not believe that one super being made me from a pile of dirt and some girl from my rib...um no ill pass on that thanx...but i do believe that the Universe is much older then we think it may be...I believe that at one time there was a planet out there some place in the universe that exploded or was destroyed or something....its remains then eventually got to earth.....now it has been proven that life and sustain it self in zero gravity and zero oxygen...although only microscopic in size.....but that is where evolution takes it turn....once a part of another plant reachs earth....it can grow and evolve to its new environment.....over time evolving into what we have now......Now for those of you that are not imaginative.....that is only a possiblity....but i have watched a show on the theory of evolution and how it all may have started....yes i have no life out side of my computer and football season...but ne ways.....with the right mixture of base elements found in the atmosphere we still live in today you can make life.....all you need to add is a source of energy....once again it is all around us....and a constant on the earth's surface.....Lightening.....Lightening created our Ozone layer that protects us today from UV radiation from the Sun.....back on track....Some scientist took what was the original elements found in the earths atmosphere and placed them in a air-tight glass globe....also goin into the globe was 2 electric probes.....they sent a charge causeing a spark every 10 mins or soo for so many days.....after opening the globe....scientist studied the carbon left from the electric sparks....now all life is carbon based....after studies the scientist found that simple single celled organisms had developed in the arit tigh globe....the same globe that was only filled with elements and no live matter.....so in conclusion it proved that evolution is much more tangable then Religious....journalism as i call it....so yeah i believe in what is tangable and can be proven.....not "Faith"
stryker76
Mar 31 2004, 10:01 PM
hmmmm pretty smart for not doin homework huh....hahahaha
Kathleen
Mar 31 2004, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(stryker76 @ Mar 31 2004, 10:00 PM)
Well....i have my own beleifs.....no nothing with god...i personally do not believe that one super being made me from a pile of dirt and some girl from my rib...um no ill pass on that thanx...but i do believe that the Universe is much older then we think it may be...I believe that at one time there was a planet out there some place in the universe that exploded or was destroyed or something....its remains then eventually got to earth.....now it has been proven that life and sustain it self in zero gravity and zero oxygen...although only microscopic in size.....but that is where evolution takes it turn....once a part of another plant reachs earth....it can grow and evolve to its new environment.....over time evolving into what we have now......Now for those of you that are not imaginative.....that is only a possiblity....but i have watched a show on the theory of evolution and how it all may have started....yes i have no life out side of my computer and football season...but ne ways.....with the right mixture of base elements found in the atmosphere we still live in today you can make life.....all you need to add is a source of energy....once again it is all around us....and a constant on the earth's surface.....Lightening.....Lightening created our Ozone layer that protects us today from UV radiation from the Sun.....back on track....Some scientist took what was the original elements found in the earths atmosphere and placed them in a air-tight glass globe....also goin into the globe was 2 electric probes.....they sent a charge causeing a spark every 10 mins or soo for so many days.....after opening the globe....scientist studied the carbon left from the electric sparks....no all life is carbon based....after studies the scientist found that simple single celled organisms had developed in the arit tigh globe....the same globe that was only filled with elements and no live matter.....so in conclusion it proved that evolution is much more tangable then Religious....journalism as i call it....so yeah i believe in what is tangable and can be proven.....not "Faith"
Thank you! Yeah, I know we learned that in biology, but I was too lazy to post the whole thing. Hehe thanks, stryker!
stryker76
Mar 31 2004, 10:04 PM
ummm i didnt learn it in Bio...i actually got detention for showin my teacher up after teachin it to the class well the teacher left the room.....i love doin it
stryker76
Mar 31 2004, 10:48 PM
This soooo needs to be read....jeez ppl just ignore it grrrrrr
Kathleen
Mar 31 2004, 10:51 PM
Haha I'm reading it, if that counts. I don't know if you posted or not, but there's another thread around here quite similar to this...
justin_park85
Apr 1 2004, 09:05 AM
xislandxstylex<--- agree... God has created us, you don't need to proof it, but you can share the good news...haha
pinkcowinzq1290
Apr 1 2004, 09:08 AM
ya i do believe that God created us, but i also believe that he had to have created other animals (including monkies and apes, things like that) it says in the Bible that God created animals first before he created man. I still believe that God created us though.
stryker76
Apr 1 2004, 12:16 PM
Hmmmm for those of you that are ignorant to believe in an all powerful super being need to be smacked im think bout it....how can someone be everywhere all the time....how can someone make a man out of dirt and a woman out of a rib....that he took from the man....he cant....and if there is an all powerful being what is the soruce of his power....everything has a power source...what is his.....
kevinma03
Apr 1 2004, 12:45 PM
QUOTE(stryker76 @ Apr 1 2004, 12:16 PM)
Hmmmm for those of you that are ignorant to believe in an all powerful super being need to be smacked im think bout it....how can someone be everywhere all the time....how can someone make a man out of dirt and a woman out of a rib....that he took from the man....he cant....and if there is an all powerful being what is the soruce of his power....everything has a power source...what is his.....
thats not a really good argument. He can do all those things because he is all powerful. He doesn't need a source of power because he IS the source.
im atheist but im just telling you what any christian would say.
Dmasta05
Apr 1 2004, 01:48 PM
ummmmm.......ya i totally agree with stryker because Darwin kinda proved it when he went to the galapagos islands! didn't he? If you trace the bone structure of primates and humans you will find out that back when the first neanderthal's were here they werre the same.....evulution vs. crreation i mean it's a pretty good argument but who cares as long as we know that some how, some way we all got here....whether it was by GOD or by evolution....i mean you have to admit it's inda crazy to think that people came from DIRT AND A RIB!!! that's like something on the outer limits....i think we should just put an end to this whole debate because everyone can think what they want!!!
dani41790
Apr 1 2004, 03:07 PM
i vote for creation.
immersion31
Apr 1 2004, 03:08 PM
i could care less, too laid back
xsnowxangelx425
Apr 1 2004, 04:34 PM
creation.. things do evolve but we didnt evolve from monkeys or fish or anything like that..
iloveyou07
Apr 1 2004, 04:44 PM
I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.
tomorrow_nvr_comes
Apr 1 2004, 05:00 PM
CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!
iloveyou07
Apr 1 2004, 05:09 PM
QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Apr 1 2004, 4:00 PM)
CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!
AMEN!!!
tomorrow_nvr_comes
Apr 1 2004, 05:12 PM
thank you sista nina...lol...hehe.
AngelicEyz00
Apr 1 2004, 05:55 PM
I guess I believe in both of them kinda=\ not really sure though. i'm more on the evolution side
foreveranoutkast
Apr 1 2004, 05:56 PM
I think we owe this big ole world to my big man in the sky god. Give me proof that he didn't and not the old we look like monnkey crap because frankly me dear it's getting old
thedilenquent
Apr 1 2004, 05:59 PM
omg @ yo big words. ok honestly i dont know anything about how the earth was made i belive partially in the big bang theory and i also believe in god to the fullest because i was brought up with that religion. as for evolution i dunno. science gives us reason to believe diffent things so i honestly dont know what i believe
kayemin
Apr 1 2004, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(annchovie @ Mar 31 2004, 6:05 PM)
i believe in god's creation. but i also believe in evolution. meaning like he created us (as humans not primates), but other things, like bugs or animals or reptiles, evolved.
So you think anything and everything other than Human Beings can evolve???
kayemin
Apr 1 2004, 08:55 PM
QUOTE(xsnowxangelx425 @ Apr 1 2004, 4:34 PM)
creation.. things do evolve but we didnt evolve from monkeys or fish or anything like that..
That is a HUGE misconception when it comes to EVOLUTION...
If we had evolved from fish, there would be no fish in the sea left..
If we evolved from monkies, there would be no monkies left in the wild
stryker76
Apr 1 2004, 10:37 PM
QUOTE(iloveyou07 @ Apr 1 2004, 4:44 PM)
I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.
EERRRRRRR Wrong........The bible was not written by god....nobody knows who wrote the bible.....it was written in a dream of someone and god told them what to put in the bible.......the only thing good wrote was the 10 commandments....if there is a such thing.....
xislandxstylex
Apr 1 2004, 10:40 PM
QUOTE
I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.
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CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!
yes!!! it's all about faith!
stryker76
Apr 1 2004, 10:49 PM
QUOTE(foreveranoutkast @ Apr 1 2004, 5:56 PM)
I think we owe this big ole world to my big man in the sky god. Give me proof that he didn't and not the old we look like monnkey crap because frankly me dear it's getting old
Ummmm have you ever gone to a museum....seen dinosaur bones/fossils...yes we all have.....Well according to the bible....the earth would be only roughly about 10-20 thousand years old.....well sorry it aint....carbon dating has proved all that...the earth is millions of years old......and we learn for a very young age that dinosaurs where around MILLIONS of years ago....so if there where no dinosaurs then what happen someone is planting giant bone skeletons in the middle of nowhere......also how can ppl say they believe in part evolution and part creation...that is ignorant....people evolve all the time....but wee see it as permanent adaption.....like how now many young children...dont have to get certian vaccinations because that are born with the antibodies they got from there parents....evolution before our eyes....hmmmm interestin huh.....its amazing how ignorant some ppl can be...beliefing in one thing that totally contridicts the other belief of theres......Ignorance is Bliss
stryker76
Apr 1 2004, 10:58 PM
QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Apr 1 2004, 5:00 PM)
CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!
........hmmmm well sorry no god is not there for us after we sin....jesus is...he forgives you for your sins......god...created the 10 commandments....he said that if we didnt follow the commandments we would go to hell....well jesus saw this and died for all those that have sined......Jesus forgives you not God.....god would send you to hell if it wasnt for jesus...and ya kno what the bad part is.....according to the bible...satan gives you the chance to redem your self with Jesus because you cant with god.....god doesnt give you a second chance.....Jesus does.....so yeah get your religon straight before hand...i have read the bible.....to a certian extent....so i kno most my stuff.....i still choice to not follow..practice...or embrace ne religion...until the day it is proven tru to me...that there is a higher being...and yes i kno....ignorance will win ad ppl with still say its all about faith.....well you hear about a lot of things that you may not now but you still may say no its a lie....but can you....religious ppl have faith meaning they will except a lie.....so how can you have faith for only religion and say you have faith....when you have faith you have faith in everything.....meaning even a lie....hmmm interesting..
stryker76
Apr 2 2004, 01:02 PM
hmmm wow...either im right or nobodsy has nething to debet bout...im really not tryin to piss ppl off...im tryin to get ppl to make sence of what they say..
Dmasta05
Apr 2 2004, 03:28 PM
lolololololo hahahahahah WORD HOMIE I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
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