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azn_r4pf4n
iite.. as lots of good debaters say, lets make this a debate, and if you have an opinion, support it with good facts.

Should white-out be banned from school or not?

White-out is used for: to white-out any mistakes you made in pen instead of scratching out with pen (english classes only accept writing in pen in our school).

Reason why our shcool banned white-out: because their afraid kids might get high from white-out by smelling white-out because white-out has a terrible smell that can make u feel high.

so what you think?
wind&fire
its banned in my school... i give it a yes and no feel... it has cut down on grafitti but the good old permanent marker comes into play... always reliable in writing on any surface with ease...

hmmm i love my whiter out and marker....
Tung
its stupid to bann it..if they gonna bann that, why not bann those stink marker pens teacher;s use to write on the white board. -_-
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE(tungtwista @ Jan 4 2005, 7:28 PM)
its stupid to bann it..if they gonna bann that, why not bann those stink marker pens teacher;s use to write on the white board. -_-
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actually, all we do is throw them away instead, lol.

reason why it's stupid.. i know there's a reason why.
ryfitaDF
well maybe if the stupid kids wouldn't give the deans reasons to ban things such as white out...

friggin, as soon as research shows that a well hydrated student works more effectively, they ban all drinks at our school. because some stupid f**ks are dumb enough to bring alcohol.

if we're tired of being treated like children, we need to grow the f**k up.
sweetxsimplicity
Our school banned white out because people would graffiti with it (the ink kind) so yeah..I think for your reason, schools shouldn't band white out but the reason why my school banned white out is kind of like..yeah..
RandomHero
It's not banned at our school, but some teachers won't let you use it in class. I am 50-50 on this one. I mean, you can always use an eraseable pen if you really think you're gonna make a huge mistake on a paper. You can also just cross it out. Whoa. There's a new idea. Just use pencil if you're that consered.
starfaerie06
Banning white-out would be completely stupid. Most English classes require that you use pen and never pencil. What if you made a mistake at the bottom of the back side of a page and didn't want it to look sloppy by crossing it out? If you didn't have access to white-out you would have to redo the entire page... A huge waste of time that could be spent on editing and revising the paper to make it sound and flow better.

In a way I understand why they would want to ban it because of the huffing issue but the kids that are going to do that would find other ways of getting it anyway and most of them are smart enough to not do it at school.
tweeak
not only should we band white-out, we should also ban pencils, because you can poke peoples eyes out, and you could do the same with pens. and you can hit someone over the head with a ruler, and that might hurt, so lets ban them too. oh oh! and sharpies. we could definitely get high off them too. we also shouldnt be allowed to use glue on projects, like rubber cement because we could get high from any of that. not to mention erasers, which we could easily swallow and choke on. hell, i dont want to get a paper cut, so lets not use paper anymore either. not to mention those hazardous dry erase markers. desks could collapse on use too. in fact, the whole f**king school could fall on us if there were a tornado or something, so lets not go anymore. rolleyes.gif

people are stupid hammer.gif
mirage
no, i don't think they should ban white out. The school that i go to (middle school) allows white-out but maybe some other middle schools don't. Anyway, it's ridiculous to use "getting high" as an excuse to ban white out. If they are banning white out, what about sharpie markers? and those paints in art class? Those smells even worst and it could get people "higher". If the school want to prevent students from doing something like that, they should have a assembly for the grade or something giving them the right information about what to and to not do. White out is practical, a lot of other things are not.
heyyfrankie
if there is a problem with it, that is dangererous to the kid's health or harmful to the school itself or the environment, than it should be banned. why would you want to have something harmful around?
tweeak
^because its f**king white out!!
AngelicEyz00
i don't see how you can get high off of the white out.
sadolakced acid
have you ever heard of WHITE OUT TAPE?

they don't ban that. it's a perfectly viable way to white out. and you can't get high off it.

For those of you who say use a pencil, the ablility to erase is over-rated.

i use only pen- it's better because you can see it better and it doesn't smudge.

math teachers hate me. I do my work in pen...

of course they force me to use pencil.

but really; you can cross out, you can re-write.

i am currently calculating the angle between vectors with a pen.
sunissed14127
well it's not banned at my shcool...we even ask the teachers to let us use theirs and they let us. so no, i dont think it should be banned. if they catch someone trying to get high off of it, i think the person should face some kind of conciquence though.
azn_r4pf4n
ic.. i 4got to mention sharpie.. but they banned those 2..

white-out tape, their allowed in our school.

My opinion about it is that we shouldn't ban it in our school, but i find it dumb that it's banned cuz their afraid kids will get high from it...

The reason i think it's dumb to assume kids would wanna smell it: wow... none of my friends or classmates even do that when they are using white-out.. it basically depends on what school.. kids/teens do a lot of crazy stuff these days.. so you really dont know if they're smelling it or not.

I agree with starfaerie06, that happens to me a lot. i cant even bring white-out to school and i have to scratch it out and make it look hecka messy.

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Our school banned white out because people would graffiti with it (the ink kind) so yeah..I think for your reason, schools shouldn't band white out but the reason why my school banned white out is kind of like..yeah..


hmmm. did they grafitti with it yet before it was banned?
well.. yea u could grafitti with the white-out. i saw a bunch of desks full of em one time.

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not only should we band white-out, we should also ban pencils, because you can poke peoples eyes out, and you could do the same with pens. and you can hit someone over the head with a ruler, and that might hurt, so lets ban them too. oh oh! and sharpies. we could definitely get high off them too. we also shouldnt be allowed to use glue on projects, like rubber cement because we could get high from any of that. not to mention erasers, which we could easily swallow and choke on. hell, i dont want to get a paper cut, so lets not use paper anymore either. not to mention those hazardous dry erase markers. desks could collapse on use too. in fact, the whole f**king school could fall on us if there were a tornado or something, so lets not go anymore.

people are stupid 


lol.. ending up banning all the school supplies.

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i don't see how you can get high off of the white out.


it smells terrible.. but some ppl can handle the smell and get high out of it.


We need white-out. English classes only allow u to use pen and i have to cross out a lot.. dang, it'll make my paper messy. but yeah... white out makes papers neater without crossing out with pen.
gelionie
Geez. There are similar and probably better stuff called correction tape / white-out tape. It doesn't need any time for drying and doesn't give out any smell.

I guess you can't really ban correction liquid, because it's just some stationery; but I think people should STOP sniffing in because it damages your brain cells and can be fatal.
tweeak
well, actually, whenever we write essays in class for tests or whatnot, were typically not allowed to use it, so i dont carry it anymore just because its a bit obsolete, but the fact that theyre banning it is ridiculous, as they could ban anything, as stated in my previous post

sharpies on the other hand are not so obsolete. we use those daily. crayola arent permanent. you need permenent markers.
AngelicEyz00
i love the smell of white out, rubbing alcohol,and nail polish remover mellow.gif
starfaerie06
QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jan 6 2005, 5:54 PM)
i love the smell of white out, rubbing alcohol,and nail polish remover mellow.gif
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seriously?

I like the smell of sharpie kinda but I don't huff it. I've never tried to get high off of it but I know people who have... One time in 8th grade I was using sharpie to color my book cover and I didn't get high but my pupils got dialated... my friends laughed at me.
islandgirl4eva
Seeing as virtually none of the kids at my school use white-out, I doubt that they get high off of it. I say no.

And besides, Sharpies do the job quite nicely.
x____duckii
I find the fact that white-out is being banned just plain stupid. I don't think anyone would get high out of white-out. Don't you need it when you make a mistake? I also find it stupid that they ban white-out because of graffiti. You can also graffiti with markers and some other stuff. My school banned white-out because of graffiti. Okay, if a school is gonna ban white-out because they believe is "hazardous," they might as well ban these things too:

Pencils and pens — you can poke somebody in the eye like that or stab someone.
Scizzors — you can stab someone, cut someone, or poke someone in the eye.
Markers — you can also get high out of those, no?
Paper — you can cut yourself.
Chalk — some people can be allergic to chalk.
Eraser — you can choke on it.
Desks — there are some people that are allergic to that too.
Paint — you can also get high out of that.

Let's just face it, almost everything is harmful in some form. So I don't think white out should be banned.
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE(x____duckii @ Jan 6 2005, 8:03 PM)
I find the fact that white-out is being banned just plain stupid. I don't think anyone would get high out of white-out. Don't you need it when you make a mistake? I also find it stupid that they ban white-out because of graffiti. You can also graffiti with markers and some other stuff. My school banned white-out because of graffiti. Okay, if a school is gonna ban white-out because they believe is "hazardous," they might as well ban these things too:

Pencils and pens — you can poke somebody in the eye like that or stab someone.
Scizzors — you can stab someone, cut someone, or poke someone in the eye.
Markers — you can also get high out of those, no?
Paper — you can cut yourself.
Chalk — some people can be allergic to chalk.
Eraser — you can choke on it.
Desks — there are some people that are allergic to that too.
Paint — you can also get high out of that.

Let's just face it, almost everything is harmful in some form. So I don't think white out should be banned.
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you make a good point that almost everything is harmful.. some of that stuff u just pointed out our school doesnt even use, like chalk.

We use whiteboards in our school, and chalk was banned b/c ppl were allergic to it.

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Desks — there are some people that are allergic to that too.


you mean wooden desks?
krispy_kreme333
QUOTE(tweeak @ Jan 5 2005, 3:15 PM)
not only should we band white-out, we should also ban pencils, because you can poke peoples eyes out, and you could do the same with pens. and you can hit someone over the head with a ruler, and that might hurt, so lets ban them too. oh oh! and sharpies. we could definitely get high off them too. we also shouldnt be allowed to use glue on projects, like rubber cement because we could get high from any of that. not to mention erasers, which we could easily swallow and choke on. hell, i dont want to get a paper cut, so lets not use paper anymore either. not to mention those hazardous dry erase markers. desks could collapse on use too. in fact, the whole f**king school could fall on us if there were a tornado or something, so lets not go anymore. rolleyes.gif

people are stupid hammer.gif
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i completly agree!!! they cant ban white out on the basis that its harmful because everything is harmful and you cant excape it!!! and they cant ban it on graffiti (sp?) either because you can graffiti with almost anything so again they would have to ban alot of things just to stop people from graffiting or hurting themselves and also people can get high off of almost anything if you really wanted to or really tried, you could so they cant ban it for that reason either! personally i think the whole public school system is f**ked up!
Weird addiction
LMAO the usa cracks me up laugh.gif ,lmao!! white-outs rnt banned in my school! i have many of 'em and i love the smell but im never high ermm.gif
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE(krispy_kreme333 @ Jan 7 2005, 9:28 AM)
i completly agree!!! they cant ban white out on the basis that its harmful because everything is harmful and you cant excape it!!! and they cant ban it on graffiti (sp?) either because you can graffiti with almost anything so again they would have to ban alot of things just to stop people from graffiting or hurting themselves and also people can get high off of almost anything if you really wanted to or really tried, you could so they cant ban it for that reason either! personally i think the whole public school system is f**ked up!
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haha that's true.. but the only problem is that most school supplies are strongly essential like pencils and pens and rulers for writing and measuring. stuff like white-out is important sometimes.. only problem is that as some schools suggested, "it's a health hazard," and stuff like getting hit with pencils and pens are just injuries.. they dont affect your health, but stuff like white-out could possibly can if you sniff it too much..

So what I'm saying is that: if the whole school system is what u claim "F**ked up," thats an opinion.. but everything is harmful, one way or another. Pens and pencils and rulers can give you injuries but not effect your health, but stuff like white-out can. Schools are trying their best to have stuff in school banned/not allowed in school that affects childrens' health.
iheartjohn
Sure and let's ban scissors because kids can slit their wrists with them. And pencils, because they could stab each other in the eye. _dry.gif
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE([f]eleeza @ Jan 7 2005, 8:11 PM)
Sure and let's ban scissors because kids can slit their wrists with them. And pencils, because they could stab each other in the eye. _dry.gif
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was that sarcastic or serious? haha
jennyjenny
Well, white-out is banned from our school.

But a lot of people use Sharpies and WhiteBoard markers (teachers, also), and they never said that thy can't use it...

But white-out for us isn't really like, banned... they just don't like it, and tell u to put it away...

but yeah, banning white out is like banning glue (can't u get high from sniffing glue?)
iheartjohn
QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Jan 7 2005, 11:32 PM)
was that sarcastic or serious? haha
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Sarcasm.
inthemudhole
I think it's fricking stupid to ban white out.
I went to go buy some at Wal-Mart the other day and they wouldn't let me.
I was so pissed.. cause I really needed some.

But anyway.

ANYTHING can be dangerous. So what's the point of banning something like that when you can do something as dangerous with a pencil? _dry.gif
sweetxsimplicity
I never knew you could get high off white out tape. o.O
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE(sweetxsimplicity @ Jan 8 2005, 9:03 PM)
I never knew you could get high off white out tape. o.O
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white-out tape? i never said white-out tape, only white-out. haha

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I think it's fricking stupid to ban white out.
I went to go buy some at Wal-Mart the other day and they wouldn't let me.
I was so pissed.. cause I really needed some.


what the heck? why didnt they let cha?
sadolakced acid
my school has banned students, because all students do is write on desks, graffiti the bathrooms, get in fights, and smoke pot.
demolished
nope, my school havent banned white outs yet unless alot of people abuse it. well, i hardly use whiteout becuase i dont use pen very often .. even i did, i would scribble it or get a new paper pinch.gif . whiteout waste alot of my time .. take it out, shake it, press it, leak it out slowly, caps on, and put it back ..
ashley26195
hello.well i just want to say that normaly, up to a few weeks ago iv been a very good kid.never got in truble, always did what i was told, got all As in school and i still do.but a few weeks ago, i got in a HUGE fight with my entire family and it was rough.wev been fighting a lot and it really bothers me. so for soem reason a few weeks ago, i was painting my nails and i started to sniff the nail polish and it smelled good for some reason.so i stpped painting them and i went and got my nail polish remover out and started to sniff that.ever since then iv ben sniffing BUT i never feel like im high or anything.i barely feel any different.my toes tingle a little nad once or twice my nose burned a lil but thats it.iv now tried sniffing sooo many things including white out and i tried the hardest with white out but i cant get high off it.i asked some ppl at my school and none of them can get high of white out either.i dont think it shuld be banned bcuz 1. it is useful on papers and stuff and 2. its soo hard to get high off it if its even possible so its stupid to ban it.
if anyone wnats to talk to me, heres some info:
AIM S/N: AsHlEy26195
MSN: freshchickette@hotmail.com
well im going to go do some hmwk.such fun huh.gif
sammi rules you
my english class let's me use pencil. and i use eraseable pen on my reports and stuff. or we usually type them, and we can just reprint if we find a mistake..

i think it's stupid to ban white out, but it's not really a big deal..
azn_r4pf4n
^teachers in my school claim it can get you high.

it's stupid to ban it? hey, i havent replied in this thread for a while, but the big question out of this is: which is considered the most harmful in school?
sammi rules you
it can get you high, but the people who do huff know enough not to do it in school. you do it at home..

..and you asked us if it was right to ban white-out..not what's most harmful in school..so..that's what we're debating. don't change subjects.
Baku
wow dumb... next its going to be sharpies and markers.... and mybe even pens!! oo and pencials they have a funny smel ohh and so does gym shorts.... -.- people are dum now n days
alienchik
hahaha. I dont think it should be banned. It kinda helps me. haha i dont get the point. people at my school sniff salt. its stupid to ban it. you really dont get a high off of it
Paradox of Life
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well maybe if the stupid kids wouldn't give the deans reasons to ban things such as white out...

friggin, as soon as research shows that a well hydrated student works more effectively, they ban all drinks at our school. because some stupid f**ks are dumb enough to bring alcohol.

if we're tired of being treated like children, we need to grow the f**k up.


That's really true. White-out is an effective tool for erasing mistakes that can't be erased with normal erasers. If you're drawing a poster, it's not very neat to scratch out something you wrote wrong. Nor is it if you're drawing a picture at school and you make a wrong line in pen. You don't scratch it out and mess your whole picture up; you can just use white-out. If it makes kids feel high, whoop-dee-doo! If anything, they should allow it so kids will sniff white-out instead of coccain. It probably doesn't really harm kids. If it did, white-out would've already been gone by now.
And it's really our choice if we want to use white-out or not. If we want to sniff white-out at school, that's our choice! Teachers shouldn't prevent us from smelling an object because it makes us feel good (I actually haven't tried it so I'm just saying this from a logical standpoint).
It's not banned in my school, if you were curious.
sammi rules you
um, getting high kills brain cells and messes up your nervous system so um..it's quite harmful to huff.
sweetdreamsx3
No, it should not be banned. That's completely stupid. Take me for instance. I'm a really neat person and even a little scratch out annoys the shit out of me.

Plus, like x___duckii said. Almost all objects are dangerous. If they are going to ban white-out, they might as well ban every utensils that we can use for writing, eating, etc. etc.

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If kids want to sniff it, that's their life. Not ours.
azn_r4pf4n
QUOTE(sweetdreamsx3 @ Feb 14 2005, 7:42 PM)
Plus, like x___duckii said. Almost all objects are dangerous. If they are going to ban white-out, they might as well ban every utensils that we can use for writing, eating, etc. etc.
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yea... almost all objects are dangerous (refers himself to this episode on CatDog on how everything is dangerous, haha)... well anyways, i would infer that the school is trying to ban the most dangerous objects. Yes, almost all objects are dangerous, but the schools intentions r possibly trying to ban the objects that are most dangerous.
racoons > you
what a load of crap.

like everyone else has said, if you want to start banning stuff b/c its harmful, you might as well ban clothes. i mean, if i really waned to i could take of my jeans and throttle the girl sitting next to me with them... or my shoe laces...

and white out tape is annoying. it always breaks. or maybe im just retarded. what ever.

white out should stay. i mean frankly, what percent of kids-getting-highness actually happens in class? i mean, if its banned from schools, kids are still gonna get high at home, i doubt it would even have a slight impact on the statistics
xcaitlinx
white-out is not banned from my school. i dont believe it should be, either. When studnets use white-out in class, the teachers should be watchign their kids anyway, and if they see any jackass sniffing it, then they should just send him/her to the office. the kid gets suspended, gets an ass whoopin from their parents, and then the problem is solved. woopie.

Permanent black markers are banned from my school though. Last year we had a major issue with people writing on school property [ie: desks and bathroom stalls] so whenever they see someone with a permanent marker, they immediately snatch it and throw it in some filing cabinet with piles of markers in it. heh.
SimplePlan_Luvr
Its banned freom mai skewl I think.... pinch.gif but I got it tongue.gif in mai pencil case biggrin.gif
whomps
They permit white-out tape. Or at least that what my school allowed..
gigiopolis
There must be SOME medical studies that show white-out is harmful to your body. Let's think about it, it smells awful, like some horrid chemical. It smells like turpentine. People don't necessarily inhale the stuff to get high, but it's probably dangerous to our health if too much is inhaled. I'm just too lazy to google any of this.

Of course, this isnt' saying that white-out in small amounts is harmful. If a mere sniff of white-out could black someone out, don't you think that manufacturers would have be told to stop making these products, or modify them so they don't harm people? Obviously, white-out is unhazardous to a certain extent.

Of course, anything that is taken in too large a dose will be harmful, so we just have to be careful around white-out, just like any other chemical in chemistry class, or painkillers. It's silly to ban it in school.
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