But what's also ignorance, if not arrogance, is failure to heed to the rules of the Debate thread, rules that seem to be more forgotten than enforced. I'm not leaving permanently, just until people learn how not to bash others and can debate logically and without name calling and belittling, and if that'll never happen, then so be it.
Rules also state to read at least a couple pages of thread. Coming in here claiming religion is the shit because science says the world will end in 2012 is by far the most pathetic reason.
