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Statistik
Do you believe that people often living in poor areas are mostly likely to commit a crime all the time? In history class, my teacher said no and i totally agree. Crimes can happen anywhere in the US. it dosent always have to be a poor area like the ghetto and stuff..it dosent matter..what do you guys think? I think of this really confusing too
ComradeRed
Statistically, poor people commit more crimes than rich people.

It makes sense when you think about it... why would you commit a crime when you can get what you want legally?

If you don't believe me, go walk for an hour in Greenwich, Connecticut, the richest suburb of NYC. Then take a taxi and go walk in Harlem or the inner city of NYC for an hour. Tell me where you feel safer.
sunissed14127
also, statisticaly, black people commit more crime too. which i think is a small part of the people are scared of black people, because of all the stuff that goes on "up in da hood!" lol. i think its wrong to discriminate against black people just b/c of that stupid statistic. grrr i hate racism.


ne ways, yes i agree with the poor people statistic thing.rich people can just basicaly go out & buy whatever they want,whenever they want. poor people really cant afford those kind of luxuries, so of course some of them are going to go out & steal b/c they cant afford whatever they want.
ryfitaDF
i believe it. i go to a suburbian school with some rich EFFin kids. hardly anything goes down. 99% of my friends go to city schools and i hear about a minimum of 3 fights a day.
gigiopolis
I definitely agree that poor people commit more crimes. Like comradered said, why would you commit crimes if you can get everything legally? If everything comes into your hands with no problem, why would you need to use force?
lovescream
I AGREE.
THEY CAN STEAL AND STUFF.
SO YAH... I AGREE.
[CAPS LOCK BROKE]
miszkristinexox
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Dec 16 2004, 8:57 PM)
Statistically, poor people commit more crimes than rich people.

It makes sense when you think about it... why would you commit a crime when you can get what you want legally?

If you don't believe me, go walk for an hour in Greenwich, Connecticut, the richest suburb of NYC. Then take a taxi and go walk in Harlem or the inner city of NYC for an hour. Tell me where you feel safer.

yeah i agree with you.

why would rich people steal something when they can afford it?
royalfreshness
I think people with money still commit crimes & w/e.
picaso_smile
Not necessarily... think of the mob. Rich, yes. But oh so many crimes. Maybe a little more likely to steal. It also depends on thier home life... like if they were raised to know right from wrong and had good parent(s) or not.

You can't assume a poor person is a thief.
ComradeRed
I can't assume a poor person is a thief, but I can assume that a poor perosn is more likely to be a thief than a rich person.

Most poor people do not have functional families -- one of the main reasons that they're poor, and thus probably don't have a right from wrong foundation like people in stabler families.
smile4me
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Do you believe that people often living in poor areas are mostly likely to commit a crime all the time?


mmm...what was said before:
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Statistically, poor people commit more crimes than rich people.


where i live, its a pretty rich suburbian (sp?) area. ppl here commit crimes...because they are bored...etc

it depends on the crime, i guess
KissMe2408
I believe the poor steal because they need it, but rich ppl steal too, just for the "fun" of it. and it's in our human nature to steal, so i believe neone that has the power to will steal. But i belive that the poor would steal more then the rich, probably because they can't afford somethan or they actually need somethan. but it doesn't mean that they are bad ppl because of it
sadolakced acid
poor people just get caught because the cops watch them more carefully.

not really.

it's mostly petty theft, isn't it?

i mean, in california, steal a 21 dollar pizza 3 times, and you've got a life sentence.
azn_r4pf4n
interesting. human brians have lots of possiblities they want to do.

1. poor ppl steal b/c they cant afford it.
2. rich ppl steal cuz their 2 cheap

Sometimes, thats true. But the extremely poor (i mean homeless) in Frisko and Oakland, as i hear, dont even steal here.
ComradeRed
I hate to break it to you, but people from California are totally different than people from the rest of the country.
ComradeRed
No, it's just Californians...

South Central LA vs. Missouri, for example.
ComradeRed
Missourians...
gelionie
Umm... half and half.
Some rich people commit crimes out of boredom or mental problems... =\
heyyfrankie
i think that crime is going to happen anywhere, but in poor areas, they might steal more often than wealthy or average areas because they need things that they don't have.
sammi rules you
QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 19 2004, 2:43 PM)
lmao laugh.gif , duh.

but why did you compare South central and Missouri??

he did cause people in south central LA..are different from people in missouri..less likely to do certain things, more likely to do others.
tweeak
while crime can and will definitely happen anywhere, its more likely to happen in a poor area where the people are worse off and not as well educated. not only do they need to steal more, because they have less money, but they may come from a background where crime is condoned, and thus may not know any better
Flip-o-Matic
poorEST ppl commit crimes becuz they feel things r unfair n decide to take things in their own hands... other poor ppl still commit crimes because they're living with stuff they don't want. they commit A GREATER VARIETY of crime than the rich ppl because they aren't economically content... rich ppl basically the most common crime they commit is murder, whereas poor ppl are more in the line of theft.
demolished
i dont think its matter, even poor people cant afford things, thy go steal it .. but for rich people like pimp .. they made up gang groups to kill people and steal money at casino. rich people hired people so they can make an empire of wealth such as drugs .
ComradeRed
You do realize that over 95% of drug offenders are small-time petty crooks and poor people right?

If you think rich people are more likely to kill you, walk an hour through Beverly Hills then walk an hour through the Washington, DC slums. Tell me where you are more likely to be killed.

The exceptions only prove the rule. Whenever a rich person commits a relaly heinous crime, you bet it makes the national news. But poor people do it so much that it doesn't make the national news nearly as often.
sadolakced acid
how bout a simple crime where a few extra thousand dollars were made from knowing something?

martha stewart?
ComradeRed
There is no victim in that scenario. That should not be a crime.
aznxdreamer
everyone commits crime.
ComradeRed
But poor people do it more.
sadolakced acid
actually, they commit the same percentages of crimes, it's just that poor people get public defenders, and rich people get good lawyers who get them off.
comeupon
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 22 2004, 2:36 PM)
actually, they commit the same percentages of crimes, it's just that poor people get public defenders, and rich people get good lawyers who get them off.

Considering the percentage of poor people outweight the percentage of rich people about 9:1 if not more its impossible for the richer class to commit the same amount of crimes
sadolakced acid
same percentage, not same number.

meaning that if there are 10 rich and 10,000 poor, then the rich would commit 1/1000 the amount of crimes as poor, which would mean if each person committed one crime, that's same percentage. (100%)
audory
crimes can happen anywhere. it's so sterotypical for people to say that it happens in poor communities.
ComradeRed
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 22 2004, 2:36 PM)
actually, they commit the same percentages of crimes, it's just that poor people get public defenders, and rich people get good lawyers who get them off.

No they don't, the percentage even brought to trial is much higher for poor people.

There is no denying that the highest murder rates are all in poor communities and to a greater extent, in poor states.
sadolakced acid
it's all a scheme by rich people to make poor people look bad.

as for my stats... 70% of all stats are made up. i don't clain responsibility.

` yes, poor people steal more; because why do people steal? because they can't buy it by themselves, or they enjoy the rush.

if you had 100 billion dollars, would you still steal a car radio to sell?
nevernothere
How could it NOT be more likely in the ghetto? If you're stinking rich, you'll go out and hire a hooker... if you're a bum.. then you'd be more likely to rape someone...
Tung
err. no. thats just stupid.
runforfun529
I've lived in both a very rich area and a very very poor area and I can tell you I feel a lot safer in the rich area. At my old school in a poor town, fights happened every 2-3 days. Now they happen every 2-3 months.
sammehmyst
It sort of depends which environment you live in.
can0_reo
I live, in a wealthier neighborhood then some of the ppl I go to school w/ and am amazed at how many fights they had at their old school - like 1 everyday. I have seen what, 2 in a year at my new school, (at a very rich area).

And where I live, I'm not afraid of getting my house robbed. (where they clean out ur house - dvd, stereo, tv, jewlery, money, while ur gone somewhere for a few hours). But the poor neighborhoods, you have to put ur keys in a safe place, always lock your doors, lock your windows and all that stuff... When I watch the satillite at New York News, they have TONS of murders a day at poor areas and it seems causal to them. Here in San Diego, It's huge news when 1 person gets killed.

So i think that it's true - Poor places, has ppl that will commit more crimes.

Rich ppl - martha, and some bussiness stuff - but thats not as common. They cheat and stuff, but thats not a crime. They just sue the hell out of the other person, so they don't need murder.
Statistik
ok would you rather live in queens, new york for 1 week or florida for 1 week? crimes can happen in both places..you never know..so its not always poor areas
kryogenix
QUOTE(Jason61992 @ Jan 7 2005, 4:33 PM)
ok would you rather live in queens, new york for 1 week or florida for 1 week? criems can happen in both places..you never know..so its not always poor areas
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You don't understand. It's not just in poor places, but crime is more likely to happen in poor areas. Crime is more prevalent there because in most cases, people are less educated or lack the resources to survive.
jennyjenny
Poor = no money = steal.
Rich = money = posessions = lazy = no crime.
HelloSunshine
QUOTE(Jason61992 @ Dec 16 2004, 5:55 PM)
Do you believe that people often living in poor areas are mostly likely to commit a crime all the time? In history class, my teacher said no and i totally agree. Crimes can happen anywhere in the US. it dosent always have to be a poor area like the ghetto and stuff..it dosent matter..what do you guys think? I think of this really confusing too
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i agree with you. you shouldn't judge people. Just because they live in a poor area doesn't mean they're more likely to commit a crime. For all anyone knows, they could be extremely friendly people. It's just the area that makes them look bad.

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Poor = no money = steal.
Rich = money = posessions = lazy = no crime.

i don't agree with that...that's just me. mellow.gif
innovation
i'm unsure if this has been mentioned or not before, but i read somewhere that most teenage shoplifters are from upper middle class families. is this true?
HongKongDong
No I dont believe that.... anyone can steal... even the insanely rich people they just dont have what it takes to do theft's and such.... most of them anyway.

I live in a an area where there areas arounda re remotely poor and there is barely any burglaries or theft's going on, and I live in Los Angeles California. The state and city with the highest crime rate is Washington second being New York... statsically anyway
Alternativemado
absolutely not, Crime happens everywhere but i was reading this magazine and it said that 3 out of 5 people are killed in nice parts of the town or city because its more likely that no one will ever find out. So yeah, where i live its a latino based community (next to chicago) and people just assume that there's a lot of crime hera but in reality there isnt. so anywho, crime happens everywhere.
tweeak
QUOTE(AzNxJenny91 @ Jan 7 2005, 11:42 PM)
Poor = no money = steal.
Rich = money = posessions = lazy = no crime.
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no. first half= correct, second half=idealistic, not realistic

most cleptos (no clue how to spell that) are either rich or upper-middle classed. they do it for the thrill, or whatever. like drugs. ever see the OC? (ok, i havent but most people have...)
Spirited Away
Even the rich are greedy.
kat29
perhaps..
but poor people are still human..as same as we..
xquizit
QUOTE(sunissed14127 @ Dec 16 2004, 9:45 PM)
also, statisticaly, black people commit more crime too. which i think is a small part of the people are scared of black people, because of all the stuff that goes on "up in da hood!" lol. i think its wrong to discriminate against black people just b/c of that stupid statistic. grrr i hate racism.
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Well... more black people commit crime because more black people live in poverty. It has little to do with race, it has more to do with economic status.

Well, I have nothing much else to say since most of you have covered it already.
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