xcaitlinx
Jan 13 2005, 07:54 PM
ugh. this reminds me of that case where the Greeks were threatening to sue America for filming the movie Troy and demonstrating that he was gay. Why are people so immature that they feel EMBARRASSED that a HERO was GAY? Does that make him any less of a man? I think not. Grow up people...it's 2oo5...freedom to be who you are and express yourself. If you have a problem, then go sit in a corner and whine about it all you want becasue NOTHING is going to change...no matter what you do.
salcha
Jan 13 2005, 08:30 PM
homosexuality=decision NOT BIRTH
and yes, being sutpid is not with you at birth either, just because you dont have enough talent in an aspect of life doesnt mean you're stupid.
sadolakced acid
Jan 13 2005, 11:34 PM
debilitation car accident- not with you at birth.
so it must be your choice, eh?
stupidity, not with you at birth (or so you say), so you choose to be stupid?
tofuburger
Jan 20 2005, 12:02 PM
the man is corrupted...gay characters are awesome...
krnxswat
Jan 20 2005, 03:09 PM
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Dec 3 2004, 7:46 PM)
The Bible has gay characters in it...
Care to share specific examples?
avalon*
Jan 20 2005, 03:21 PM
are you sure the bible has gay characters?
krnxswat
Jan 21 2005, 12:48 AM
The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that a person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for then to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality.
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin that any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1Corinthians 6:11; 2Corinthians 5:17).
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racoons > you
Jan 21 2005, 03:10 PM
Yes, and church is seperate from state. so what the Bible says is totally irrelevant when making a government decision, such as banning books with gay characters.
explain to me exactly why homosexuality is a choice. ur own gender is not a choice (in most cases), so why is which gender u are attracted to
krnxswat
Jan 21 2005, 11:18 PM
QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Jan 21 2005, 3:10 PM)
ur own gender is not a choice (in most cases), so why is which gender u are attracted to
Can you care to elaborate on that part?
racoons > you
Jan 22 2005, 06:19 AM
WEll, if you cannot decide if you are born male or female, then why can you choose whether or not your attracted to men or women?
lol just realized i said the same thing again with slightly different wording.
anyway, if homosexuality exists in the real world, then why should it be a crimeto write about it in books, which in themselves reflect reality as seen by the author?
misoshiru
Jan 23 2005, 08:13 AM
that's just wrong. it's not like homosexuals are aliens or something. they're humans too. and yeah, even the bible has homosexuality in it. so are they going to ban the bible now
racoons > you
Jan 23 2005, 10:52 AM
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so are they going to ban the bible now
lovin the irony.
Christian govenor seeks to erradicate the gays. ends up burning his own religious texts. Excellent.
sammi rules you
Jan 23 2005, 12:38 PM
the bible condones homosexuality, no? so uh..it wouldn't be like that. sorry to drown your hopes.
sadolakced acid
Jan 23 2005, 12:57 PM
2 christian groups have declared that spongebob squarepants promotes gays.
sammi rules you
Jan 23 2005, 02:34 PM
ok, so maybe spongebob does promote homosexuality. woohoo. ?
wind&fire
Jan 23 2005, 11:06 PM
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 4 2004, 11:28 AM)
ahh yes. sweet home alabama.
-where a kid dressed up in a kkk hat for school
-where our biology textbooks have a sticker that says evolution is complete crap
-where our cheif justice is a jesus freak that thinks we should admit that we're trying to spread christianity in iraq and afganistan and the muslims will stop blowing us up (i couldn't figure it out either)
-where they have to say that both overall straps must be on both sholders in the dress code
ahh yes. sweet, sweet home alabama.
hahaha
inbred hicks
misoshiru
Jan 24 2005, 07:36 AM
QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jan 24 2005, 1:38 AM)
the bible condones homosexuality, no? so uh..it wouldn't be like that. sorry to drown your hopes.

i'm not saying that it condones homosexuality or promotes it, just the fact that it contains homosexuality, even though it is the talk of homosexuality being a sin.
Mireh
Jan 24 2005, 10:25 PM
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"It's censorship at its worst, and it also keeps Alabama at the top of the list as a laughingstock in the United States,"
wtf. we all know that NJ here is the laughing stock of the US
stephinika
Jan 25 2005, 09:03 PM
that's retarded...there's nothing wrong with homosexuality i don't think though i know some people disagree but banning books? thats a bit much.
sadolakced acid
Jan 25 2005, 09:38 PM
QUOTE(AzNbUbZ @ Jan 23 2005, 10:06 PM)
that's west virginians.
alabama's christian fundamentalist country, not hick country. get it right.
pandamonium
Jan 27 2005, 10:11 AM
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 23 2005, 12:57 PM)
2 christian groups have declared that spongebob squarepants promotes gays.
i saw a article clip on that, lol just because spongebob sings we are family a parent wants to stop the video when in fact there are no relation to accepting homosexuals. the only relation that they have is the people who made that video have a sign in on their website and have to agree or disagree to accept any race culture or differences in people such as homosexuality.
QUOTE(wonders79 @ Jan 13 2005, 8:30 PM)
homosexuality=decision NOT BIRTH
and yes, being sutpid is not with you at birth either, just because you dont have enough talent in an aspect of life doesnt mean you're stupid.
are you F***ING kidding me? wow your really brain dead. i guess you "chose" to be stupid when you were born.
Spirited Away
Jan 27 2005, 07:18 PM
Again, banning homosexual characters in books will do us no good as it will discontinue a huge chunk of records that are a part of our culture and history.
I really wanted to address the fact that quite a few of you have said something along the lines of "grow up", "you're immature", "stupid", " and there is a "freedom of expression"... etc without taking into consideration of what you're saying at all. It's like you guys are just throwing words out there in anger.
Yes, I understand that those of you who support homosexual rights are upset over this, but keep in mind that what you guys are supporting, freedom of lifestyle or just freedom in general, gives the same right to those who choose to be against homosexuals. As there are two sides of this controversy, there are two sides of freedom: the freedom to support, and the freedom to not support.
In this debate, the best way to go about things, in my humble opinion, is that you all use logic and facts to present your views. Condescension will give leeway to more spite that will add on to what is already a situation full of anger, and even hate, from both sides.
i_screwed_bam
Jan 30 2005, 10:50 PM
worst thing ever! let people write what they want let the kids read it! its not like theyr'e saying come be gay with me cause gay people are cool, or any thing like that its just a character
the thing on saying homosexuality is okay, well it is, that's some one eles opinion, not his he should not be able to ban every thing he doesnt agre wit next hes going to say no more jobs for people who dont graduate
xGlovex
Feb 3 2005, 12:46 PM
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That's gay. You should be able to read whatever you want to read. What next, burning books?
..yea seriously
nevernothere
Feb 13 2005, 09:28 AM
Man, I don't like homosexuality... but I don't think you can ban a book b/c of that.
b0st0ngrl
Feb 13 2005, 09:30 AM
Omg how stupid is that?
Did you hear about the people in California that think Spongebob is gay?
mysticalazxn
Feb 14 2005, 05:00 PM
it doesn't matter
we neeed it as a knowledge for like, what to do and not to do.
sammi rules you
Feb 14 2005, 07:45 PM
^....what? what do we need?
actionrobot_go
Feb 15 2005, 10:07 AM
Just because someone bans books with gay characters in them, and attempts to ban gay marriage doesn't mean that people will stop being homosexual. It's pointless for people to try and stamp out homosexuality
sorry, I make no sense.
racoons > you
Feb 15 2005, 11:14 AM
^^
no i get you, and your right. as i said before, books reflect reality, and homosexulaity is a reality, so to do is not only an infringement of freedom of press, but naive as well
Teesa
Feb 22 2005, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(actionrobot_go @ Feb 15 2005, 10:07 AM)
Just because someone bans books with gay characters in them, and attempts to ban gay marriage doesn't mean that people will stop being homosexual. It's pointless for people to try and stamp out homosexuality
sorry, I make no sense. no, that's exactly it. we can't just ignore it and pretend it isn't there.
f4113n
Feb 28 2005, 04:33 PM
YES, LETS ALL GO PROTEST TO PRESIDENT BUSH THAT SPONGEBOB IS GAY AND SHOULDNT BE SHOWN ON TELEVISION, SO IS SESAME STREET. DEATH TO GAY CARTOONS, FOR THEY HAVE COMPLETELY CORRUPTED THE MINDS OF OUR YOUTH. WE MUST PUT A STOP TO THIS MADNESS RIGHT NOW.
hello people! if you ban books with gay charachters, then you are violating the first amendment, freedom of speech.
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