I try to put this as simply as possible.

I sort of liked this guy. He was hot but not the brightest... sort of obliviously to his surrounding or so it seemed. I didn't really want to date him cause I figured he'd make a crappy boyfriend.

My friend Jes knew I liked this guy and told his best friend. Jes and the guy's friend are good friends. So this guy's friend tells Jes he'll find out who my crush likes for me as a favor to her. He calls the guy I like and tells Jes about it. So Jes tells me that my crush said he thinks I'm cool and stuff but doesn't really want a girlfriend- especially before Christmas because he's cheap. He wasn't even supposed to know I liked him at all. Jes says, according to my crush's friend he already knew I liked him. That didn't make sense but that's besides the point.

Ok the point of this... Are all guys like this? Are you cheap like this guy and avoid relationships so you don't have to spend money? Do you think it was an excuse? Do you think my crush's friend just screwed me and lied about it... I mean this guy doesn't really like me anyway...

That guy doesn't have much going for him, ok so he's hott, but he's not that bright, he's cheap, and his excuse for not wanting to date you is because he doesn't want to spend money on you for christmas?

It's ok to have a crush on him, but going for a relationship based on looks is a bad idea. But maybe he is a really great guy, and in that case you might want to get to know him.
good luck.

Awe. Thanx... good advice.

Anyone else please?

first - not all guys are like that. he's just crappy, like you said.
second - i'm not like that. if i like the girl, i wouldn't mind paying for things for her
third - it might've been an excuse, or he just SERIOUSLY doesn't wanna pay for anything for anyone but himself.
fourth - no offense, but probably his friend really did just lie or something.

when a girl ask fpor my opion i put a twix in my mouth and then awnser so she cant hear me good,jus like in the commercial.but umm really,did how do u know he is cheap,guy culd of been lienin to make u like him or her.

Haha, no.
Last year I asked out my ex on November 25th, so I our one month would be on Christmas.

why the fcuk do you care if the guy is cheap? I think he's a sleaze for using it as an excuse, but why are people so shallow? "Are guys really that cheap?" Jeez, you need someone to spend money on you so you can feel secure about a relationship? Can't a nice freekin love note work out better? God, people these days. I don't want to generalize and say grls are financial blackholes, but I really do want to say it. Ok. Girls are financial blackholes.

Uh.. she didn't say that. You're at the point of inferring from the text.

nuh uh..

that guy was jus cheap..
well.. mayb guys sumtimes try to avoid 'em..
cuz me, i just say we not rite for each other.. lol

i have high standards lol

wow, that's complicated... um... there a few possibilities... what his friend said was a lie and for some reason, he doesn't want you to date his friend. that guy is just plain cheap but most likely, he's too insecure for a relationship or something... the money thing seems like an excuse in my opinion. i don't think all guys are like that, but if he is, he's not worth dating

Well you're a financial butthole.

ahahah no personally, if you were my girlfriend, i would buy you presents.

Not all guys are like this. This guy is just cheap. Maybe he doesn't want his parents to find out or something, hence the fact why he won't buy you a present.