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miszkristinexox
do you think smoking should be banned or shouldn't be banned?

[ i couldn't find a topic on this, so sorry if one exists]
sammi rules you
no. it would be devastating to our economy and so many people are addicted to it as it is. even if it is banned, people will still do it.
Heathasm
absolutely f**king not
do you know how stupid that would be
people are still going to smoke no matter what even if they have to pay a little more

just look at the situation surrounding pot
thugs and drug dealers are getting very wealthy from its proceeds...pot should be legal too so they arent the ones benefitting
sharerol
No. It would just cause too many problems because of the large population already addicted to it. They just won't quit even if it was banned.
sadolakced acid
you mean like they tried to ban alchohol?
tweeak
no. look how well abo-abol f**k whatever the hell it was called that failed to ban alcohol in the 20s or 3s or whatever

pinch.gif i cant think this late at night

prohibition. it would fail like prohibition. not abo-something. im such a dumbass late at night
diezelbabygrl_xoxo
Nope I don't think it should. I don't particularly smoke myself but I have a fetish for guys who do. I enjoy the smell of smoke and I throb.gif the fact that it gives them raspy voices.

Besides, if they did, many people would still do it. It's not like you can break the habit by a silly law.
Weird addiction
NONONONON mad.gif ...it shouldnt be,i smoke occasionally,ppl who smoke KNOW that its bad for the health and its now left up to US to stop smoking or not,its OUR choice...leave us ALONE ph34r.gif alien.gif
nas
QUOTE(diezelbabygrl_xoxo @ Nov 14 2004, 2:31 AM)
Nope I don't think it should. I don't particularly smoke myself but I have a fetish for guys who do. I enjoy the smell of smoke and I throb.gif the fact that it gives them raspy voices.

Besides, if they did, many people would still do it. It's not like you can break the habit by a silly law.

Wow that's one of the freaking strangest fetishs that I've ever heard of.. (not counting those sexual ones)


Ban it here in the USA or not, doesn't matter(to me), but those high and mighty tobacco companies should definitely stop spreading their evil over third world countries.

A few African countries for example, are introduced to that drug, and the results are deforestation, economic, and health problems as well. Tobacco crops pay more than maize crops, and therefore they grow tobacco in place of maize. Plus, tobacco corrupts the soil, making it hard to grow anything else, resulting in ecological problems. [link]

Economic problems are derived from choice of cigarrete suppliers.. and much more. Unfortunately, I only know the basics so I can't delve into that. [link]

And as for health problems? Well I'm sure you all know that one already...
ComradeRed
ryfitaDF
cigarettes shouldn't be made illegal. even i think that i'm the straightest edge kid here. it's an abomination, though, that tobacco companies have such a tight chokehold on the economy and the millions of people it addicts.

i guess you just have to show people the harm it's doing to them, and if they continue to ignore the longterm effects then it's their grave.
inthemudhole
Not totally banned.. because that would have a HUGE affect on our economy.

I think smoking should be banned from ALL restaurants/stores/etc.
Why should other people have to put up with the second-hand smoke?
I mean, yeah, there's a smoking and non-smoking section, but that doesn't take it away 100%.
Yeah, they might lose customers, but they might GAIN them, too.. some people avoid restaurants because of smokers. mellow.gif

But no. I don't think it should be TOTALLY banned.
Just banned from smoking in buildings.
ComradeRed
let the building owner decide if he wants to ban indoor smoking or not.
inthemudhole
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let the building owner decide if he wants to ban indoor smoking or not.

Yeah, that's true.. and I suppose it's more fair like that.. but I know of more people who despise second hand smoke than people who actually smoke.
kantoaznboi
QUOTE(diezelbabygrl_xoxo @ Nov 14 2004, 1:31 AM)
Nope I don't think it should. I don't particularly smoke myself but I have a fetish for guys who do. I enjoy the smell of smoke and I throb.gif the fact that it gives them raspy voices.

Besides, if they did, many people would still do it. It's not like you can break the habit by a silly law.

u kno ur killing urself everytime u smell smoke from a cig. 30 mins of smelling 2nd hand smoke is like smoking one cig. or osmethin like htat. if u dont want 2 kill urself, i'd suggest u get a new fetish.


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let the building owner decide if he wants to ban indoor smoking or not.

no, ppl should not be able 2 smoke in building and restuarants. ur willing 2 risk the health of non-smokers because ppl want to smoke in ur facilities? if u want 2 smoke, smoke outside, where most ppl wont be affected by ur nasty habit

personally i want it ban, but ppl r gunna smoke it anyways. and u cant really take down the smoke companies, cause like phillip morris owns so many other companies, it would be devistatiing to our economy.

i really hate smokers, i despise them with a passion. and i really hate how smokers smoke around ppl. i dont want 2 die from smokers 2nd hand smoke, if u want 2 kill urself wit ur bad habit then thats ur choice, but dont kill others who dont smoke.
ryfitaDF
^ second hand smoke is actually virtually harmless.
but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck!
tweeak
^no it isnt. its a key cause of lung cancer. have you been living in a hole?
NatiMarie
I think it should be banned.
What...positive things are affiliated with it? Nothing so therefore it should NOT exist.
tweeak
^that would only cause more people to start. people like to be rebels, which is one reason drugs are so popular. while it doesnt need to be legal, it shouldnt be illegalized either, because historical evidence shows that it would fail, and cause economic problems
lil_shadow
first of all, i think that its really horrible that most of us think that it would be impossible to stop everyone from smoking because this proves that the system doesn't work and we have no faith in it.(or at least in the smoking area). but yes, sadly, i agree. people would just smoke more if it was banned, only illegally.
mirage
i think we should first answer if we smoke or not and then ask if we think it should be banned... no and yes.
Smoking is so bad for your health... but then, so many people smoke now a days it's like no big deal... and it's almost impossible to ban it
teenprincess
I dont think it should be banned because it would be too hard for people to quit right away and people would do it anways. I just wish it wasn't even invented in the first place, but... since it is, we'll just have to deal sad.gif
kantoaznboi
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Nov 15 2004, 3:46 PM)
^ second hand smoke is actually virtually harmless.
    but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck!

ur actually quite wrong. 2nd hand smoke more harmful then 1st hand smoke. the reason is cause 1st hand smoke there is a filter in the bud of the cig, preventing most of the harmful chemicals getting into ur body, but 2nd hand smoke on the other hand is not filtered so ur breathing all the poisons and harmful chemicals thats coming cig
sadolakced acid
the filter doesn't help that much.

but the thing is, you breath more of it firsthand.

more of less is still more.
CrimsonArchangel
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Nov 14 2004, 1:34 PM)
cigarettes shouldn't be made illegal. even i think that i'm the straightest edge kid here. it's an abomination, though, that tobacco companies have such a tight chokehold on the economy and the millions of people it addicts.

i guess you just have to show people the harm it's doing to them, and if they continue to ignore the longterm effects then it's their grave.

Agree with him.

However, I do believe it would be a good idea to enforce the idea of "Smoking" and "Non-smoking" areas in public places. Some people want to keep smoking, then go ahead, like he ^ said, its their grave, but those that want to enjoy public places and clean air shouldn't be made to breathe such toxic smoke.

I know this might sound sort of segregationist (is that even a word? blink.gif lol), but I guess lets go with the separate but equal on the whole smoking thing. Let them smoke, but don't subject those that want to breathe clean air to such a nasty thing as smoke.
xsilent_kidx
OK IM GONNA VOICE MY OPINON!!!
anyone remeber learning about moonshining(illegal liquer because they banned it)
same thing will happen,it will jus make cry higher
ryfitaDF
QUOTE(my_papaya @ Nov 15 2004, 4:56 PM)
^no it isnt. its a key cause of lung cancer. have you been living in a hole?

i've never heard of a case of cancer that was caused by second hand smoke.
tweeak
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Nov 16 2004, 3:41 PM)
i've never heard of a case of cancer that was caused by second hand smoke.

well how much research have you done into the topic of looking up death by second hand smoke. because it happens. people die from second hand smoke. its a proven fact.
ComradeRed
The average person inhales so little secondhand smoke over a lifetime that it's hard to pin the exact cause of cancer on secondhand smoke.
ryfitaDF
^ the smartest person here is on my side. i win

biggrin.gif hehe

and, actually, i have done research and i've seen no cases of lung cancer or any type of cancer, for that matter, that were attributed to secondhand smoke.
azn_r4pf4n
iites, my turn.

i rlly dont think smoking would b ban, we'd end up in another Prohobition-like nation.

crime rates increased bak in the 1930's when prohobition was introduced sadly, cuz pplz were VERY ADDICTED to alcohol. crime rates would possibly increase if smoking was banned. i would think smoking shouldn't have ever been invented, the only thing society can do is help smokers quit.

**EDIT**

interesting debate, by the way.
sadolakced acid
smoking's a lot better than snuff - where you snort ground dried tabacoo leaves.
kantoaznboi
aye, some of u r so naive

i TA 4 a health teacher 4 nearly 3 years, i kno this stuff

2nd hand smoke kills. My teachers grandma died from cancer that she got from the 2nd hand smoke from my teachers grandpa. he still ived 20 yrs after her death. imagine the pain he went through. he didnt die from it cause he had a special gene that allowed him 2 not get cancer of the lungs.

now if u not gunna change something about smoking and 2nd and smoke, r u willing 2 kill someone u love over a nasty habit? u have 2 live wit the rest of ur life knowing u took a life when u could have stopped.

if u wanna kill urself and put tar in ur lungs, have bad breath permentantly, ultimately get lung cancer, shortness of breath cause the tiny lil air sacks bursts, etc, thats fine, u chose to do that, and not make the non smoker suffer.
sadolakced acid
first off, there is no special gene that allows you to not get cancer.

because when DNA divides, the ends are shortened. each division shortens them. the only cells that build them up again are cancer cells and stem cells.

so his lungs are... cancer or stem cells... both of which cannot allow for gass exchange.
xnastyninjagrlx
I really really have a pet peeve for ppl who smoke..but..
you can't change ppl's choice by one law..we have so MUCh
laws and everyone breaks them everyday. ppl who smoke
just have to realize that they are cutting their life short everytime
they take a puff and it's THEIR choice to give it up...

altho it would be nice if most ppl would stop.. ermm.gif
instantmusic
if i smoked i couldnt do my PT every 2 days. 3 miles is a bizatch. Hoorah 22 minutes. hoorah laziness... happy.gif
Statistik
Smoking is people's choices..whether they smoke or not, they make the choice..but still smoking should be banned..bad for your health
Shattered_Hope
no..people can do whatever the hell they want..i mean years ago the U.S. wanted to ban alcohol..well it wasnt that great so they had to repeal the amendment....people dont need more rules...they need freedom.
smthngcrprategrl34
at this point you can't ban it. there are to many people in that industry and many people would lose their jobs and the job rate would go straight down again. also there are many older citizens that have been addicted so long that if they quit it might kill them.
miss barnes
i dont think it should be be banned period, just in certain places
Kriegsgefangene
Smoking or non. I don't care. As long as they don't smoke around me, or try and get me to.

I don't care if people go off killing themsleves. That is their business, they should know what consequences are going to be upheld before they start.

Other than that, Don't worry about it.

We have our freedom, smoke your heart out, it doesn't matter....
demolished
a little smoke can do alot of damage to your body, even if its one seconds ... i think smoking should be banned everywhere in U.S beside smoking at home cus it make me sick and make me cought alot when i'm outside. i have alot of smoker in my street, make me dizzy pinch.gif
sadolakced acid
smoking can be banned in public places.


but restraunts, shopping malls, etc. these should be owner disgression...


if you don't like the smoke, leave.
audory
smoking is horrible, but it shouldn't be banned. if you made it illegal, people will still do it. it's an addiction, making it illegal won't make people stop.
x____duckii
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Nov 15 2004, 4:46 PM)
^ second hand smoke is actually virtually harmless.
but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck!

No it isn't. Did you know that second hand smoke actually does more harm than actually smoking itself?

Well, I don't really think it should be banned. Think of all of the problems that would be caused. I mean, if people are dumb enough to smoke and risk their health, well it's their choice. And it's not like if smoking cigs were made illegal would stop people from doing it.
heyyfrankie
i think it should be banned, because my grandpa just died because of lung cancer, caused by smoking. but we all know that it will NEVER be banned.
KissMe2408
I don't think it should be banned totally, but i think it should be banned from public places so ppl don't have to be in contact with secondhand smoking
Shattered_Hope
i dont think it should be banned. people have a right to do what they fricking want.
kantoaznboi
QUOTE(Shattered_Hope @ Dec 23 2004, 8:27 PM)
i dont think it should be banned. people have a right to do what they fricking want.

it is true that ppl have a right 2 do wat they want, but when that right begins 2 harm others or put others in danger, u no longer have that right.



and Frankie_08 is rite. Phillip morris(i think its them, not sure) is one of the leading cigarrette distributors and they own many companies that are quite powerful, such as kraft. if you take down phillip morris, you take down those companies as well and it will most likely bring our economy down severly.
ApunBindaas
I don't care if people smoke, just have respect for non smokers like me.
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