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transcendentalism
maybe they change their minds.

also, it's a little unwise to make such generalizations unless you've taken practically a survey of the entire world to back it up.
NoSex
QUOTE(S-Majere @ Dec 19 2007, 11:01 AM) *
Only a mild eyebrow raise.


Beyond raising a brow, I'm "what the f**king?!" anyone that doesn't bang their partner before marriage. That's just a damned idiotic strategy. Sex is fun and it doesn't equal love. Further, naturally, mankind is not monogamous (just like the majority of all other living mammals). Lastly, if you esteem marriage so much, you shouldn't take it so lightly. I don't believe in nor ever want to get married, but, if I was going to I would get everything straight. If I was going to make such a strong legal and philosophical commitment, I would ensure that I knew every inch of my partner, both metaphorically and literally. Sexual identity is a huge deal - to marry someone without being hip to such things is f**king stupid, no matter how you cut the cake.

More so and more so it becomes obvious that we're in a society full of sexual repression (especially in the case of women).
LittleMissSunshine
okay i may be just a tad bit young to have sex, cause i'm only 15. but i don't believe premarital sex is right for girls unless your not married. i don't think it's good to have sex before marriage because it just creates problems.. such as rape and pregenant if you don't have secure protection. it leads to many problems and in my opinion i think it's best to night to have sex after marriage.

i know im not certain if it's true. but isn't said that some women say they have the best sex after marriage with the one you really wanna be with (life partner). but then again who knows? because our world is so corrupted about marriage and divorces, but who am i to say?
paperplane
Win for the most idiotic/sexist thing I've read all day!

Your utter lack of English skill aside, premarital sex is not right for girls? Rape is not going to occur from a lack of protection, nor is it going to be prevented by a decision not to have sex until marriage. Do you not know what rape is? You;r absolutely no one to say anything on this topic, because as you proved in that other topic, you don't even f**king understand what sex is.
DoubleJ
I kind of regret having sex up until this point. Looking back on it, it really did nothing for me. I didn't have any kind of connection with the person whatsoever.
superficial
I would prefer to wait till marriage, but if the guy and I are going to promise each other to be together forever and that he'll still love me even after we have sex, then I'll consider it. I'll probably just wait till marriage. When we're both ready, we'll have sex. There's no specific time on when you can tell when you'll have sex. It happens when it happens.
DoubleJ
It definitely does happen that way. People can say all they want about not having sex until they get married, but there are instances, when that will not be possible.
MiZsBeHaVe
test drive it!! lol
you dont want something that cant keep out with you..
NoSex
QUOTE(MiZsBeHaVe @ Feb 23 2008, 04:07 AM) *
test drive it!! lol
you dont want something that cant keep out with you..


Preach it, sister!
WillTeddy
test drive before you buy. Marriage requires you to know absolutely EVERY aspect of your potential partner. If you don't know what they're like in bed, you could have just gotten yourself into the worst deal of your life. this has been said before i couldn't agree more.

people don't know if they enjoy sex or how they enjoy sex until they actually have sex. your perfect partner could end up discovering he/she has a thing for sadism in bed and you're stuck with it coz you're married. Or until you get divorced which makes the marrying the partner of your dreams and giving your gift to him/her a bit ironic.

trust me things do change drastically after two people have sex. my relationship with my gf has never been the same after we did it. You're gonna experience some tough times, uncertainty and what not. You really have to show that you can handle each other no matter the situation. In my opinion, the period of time after you first engage in sex with someone is a vital test to whether they're worthy to spend your life with.

So yes premarital sex is a MUST when selecting a partner for marriage, stupid not to do it.
stephinika
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Beyond raising a brow, I'm "what the f**king?!" anyone that doesn't bang their partner before marriage. That's just a damned idiotic strategy. Sex is fun and it doesn't equal love. Further, naturally, mankind is not monogamous (just like the majority of all other living mammals). Lastly, if you esteem marriage so much, you shouldn't take it so lightly. I don't believe in nor ever want to get married, but, if I was going to I would get everything straight. If I was going to make such a strong legal and philosophical commitment, I would ensure that I knew every inch of my partner, both metaphorically and literally. Sexual identity is a huge deal - to marry someone without being hip to such things is f**king stupid, no matter how you cut the cake.

More so and more so it becomes obvious that we're in a society full of sexual repression (especially in the case of women).

I completely agree, especially with your last statement. Seriously...sex is seen as such an evil thing society and its awful. Obviously there are the bad cases when awful things happen and blah blah blah, but if one is careful and smart about things, it's fine.
S-Majere
I'm waiting still not for religious reasons, or to honour the "rule" of a patriarchal society, but just to see if I can. It's more of a challenge than anything else to me and I want to see if I can hold out until I'm 20 - or married. My parents were one of those couples to hold out until they were married; I love that they did and I guess I wish to honour that. My folks have been happily married for nearly 25 years, absolutely my idols.

Damn hard when you have a boyfriend as hot as mine, I tell thee.
weed
pre-maritial sex FTW. Eveyone does what they please, whats the big freaking deal if the person next to you doesn't approve?! f**king kiss my ass if you dont like what i do. mellow.gif
1angel3
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Dec 19 2007, 08:54 AM) *
OMG. The number of times I've heard this line. If you choose to wait for 'your husband till death do you part' fine. There are people who choose not to. I, personally, do NOT want to get married. So what should I do? Become a nun? No, hun.
Sex is passionate, intimate, yadi yada. I don't see why you need marriage to be passionate. Love doesn't = marriage. This is where you guys are really wrong.

Keeping yourselves for ONE guy or for marraige is good but don't condemn those that don't. =)


There's no right way really, I just choose to do it that way. You're right marriage isn't for everyone but that's them. That's just the way I do things. You're right love doesn't equal marriage but I wouldn't get married unless I am in love, some people do but they just crazy. So if two people fall in love and choose not to get married because it isn't for them then that's their business.
StubbornFemme
most people would like/love the idea of waiting till marriage but seriously its real rare to know people that still have their virginity intact. but i think its more acceptable these days to have sex before marriage...personally i always say this, never say never and sh*t happens.
szeern
I've got to say 'No' to premarital sex. you might get STD from doing it. And what if you 'accidentally' get pregnant? you'll have loads of things to think about such as where will the baby go or should i abort this baby? and if you're thinking of abortion, it's illegal (not sure in other countries, but it is in Southeast Asia). And when you get married, the best thing to give your husband, is your virginity (and his). These are the opinions of a conservative Asian biggrin.gif
paperplane
you might get an STD from premarital sex? lmao. use a condom. have your partner get tested if you're that concerned. don't sleep around. you can not be married and still only sleeping with one person.
Glamourouz
QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Dec 19 2007, 11:54 AM) *
OMG. The number of times I've heard this line. If you choose to wait for 'your husband till death do you part' fine. There are people who choose not to. I, personally, do NOT want to get married. So what should I do? Become a nun? No, hun.
Sex is passionate, intimate, yadi yada. I don't see why you need marriage to be passionate. Love doesn't = marriage. This is where you guys are really wrong.

Keeping yourselves for ONE guy or for marraige is good but don't condemn those that don't. =)


You nailed it! Marriage is OVERRATED...today's generation of marriages do not last...years ago you'd have people celebrating their 50th anniversaries & renewing their vows, today you'd be lucky to make it past 3 years & at least to 10 yrs. People get married for the wrong reasons nowadays & love is like one of the last reasons people get married. A lot of people change once they're married & the things you used to love about a person tend to go right out the window as soon as you both say "I Do"...All in all, pre-marital sex isn't right or wrong; it's YOUR CHOICE...other people don't have to like it...
Sprague
I personally respect those that can wait for it themselves and not engage in the activity 'til after they're married. My parents were the same way, and I absolutely love that fact that they stayed pure to each other. Am I saying I'm against pre-marital sex? No. If you're safe and using protection, by all means do what you need to do in that moment of passion. This is the 21st century, not, say, the 17th.
NoSex
QUOTE(Reconditee @ Apr 1 2008, 07:31 PM) *
I personally respect those that can wait for it themselves and not engage in the activity 'til after they're married.


I find it moronic and representative of weakness, insecurity, and superstitiousness.
Why do you find it respectable?
illriginal
QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 3 2008, 04:59 PM) *
I find it moronic and representative of weakness, insecurity, and superstitiousness.
Why do you find it respectable?

Shows will power and self restraint.
datass
QUOTE(shann-oh-man @ Feb 23 2008, 05:42 AM) *
but i don't believe premarital sex is right for girls unless your not married.

i've read it about 7 times, and i still don't understand. ohh. 8th. still don't
NoSex
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 3 2008, 05:36 PM) *
Shows will power and self restraint.


So do a lot of other practices... I could starve myself, that would show even more "will power" and "self-restraint," but, just as in the case of celibacy, if there really isn't any point, it's all just masturbation.
Vyrrei
Yes.

I would be a hypocrite if I said no. xD
AimeeLynn
Yes.^ agreed.
Joanne
Yes, as long as those involved are prepared and safe.
MissCuppyCake
In my opinion...
Its absolutely fine as long as they know what they are getting theirselves into...

Like when it happened to me I was perfectly aware of what i was giving up...
And Im fine with that...

But if someone does it just because they think its cool or because they are drunk or something like that...
Then they should wait...

Or especially when people end up doing it with alot of people and end up becoming sluts/whores/manwhores...
Then they should have waited.


So my point is obviously they shouldnt do it until they are sure they are ready.

Haha.
berrypop90
Yes.
What if you never get married and you're saving yourself? blink.gif
Cyanide-
I guess if you know you could spend your life with the person, then i think its ok.

But if your probably not, then save it.

Sadly though you see or hear friends or anyone having sex before marriage. So what can you do? People are going to do it anyways.
I personally think its better that knowing someone is doing drugs
Butterflyphoenix
QUOTE
I guess if you know you could spend your life with the person, then i think its ok.

But if your probably not, then save it.

Sadly though you see or hear friends or anyone having sex before marriage. So what can you do? People are going to do it anyways.
I personally think its better that knowing someone is doing drugs
nikx618
i say no, because, i was raised as a Catholic. &i believe that sex should be saves for marriage. i mean, its such a great way to i guess, express love. that it shouldn't be tossed around like w.e.
that's just my opinion.
-Evenstar-
QUOTE(MissCuppyCake @ Jul 11 2008, 11:13 PM) *
In my opinion...
Its absolutely fine as long as they know what they are getting theirselves into...

Like when it happened to me I was perfectly aware of what i was giving up...
And Im fine with that...

But if someone does it just because they think its cool or because they are drunk or something like that...
Then they should wait...


Agreed ^.^
Insurmountable
Of course religion wise, you should wait til' your married. But honestly in today's world, I would be surprised if people don't wait, and for the ones that do wait they typically get married pretty early.
lovescream
QUOTE(berrypop90 @ Jul 11 2008, 02:29 PM) *
Yes.
What if you never get married and you're saving yourself? blink.gif


LOL my friend told me a story where her aunt or something never got married, so she was a virgin pretty much all her life.


Anyway, I really don't care. As long as you know the consequences, I think you're pretty much ready. I honestly don't see sex as something that should be done with someone you'll spend the rest of your life with anymore. I used to, but now I see it as something that should be done with someone you care about, and maybe for your own guilty pleasure. Unless a baby pops up, then you're in some deep shit, but that's why you should know the consequences first! :D
Blaqheartedstar
voted who cares but its totally ok just don't be stupid about it and open your legs to just anyone, find the right one first.
unless your family is religious, then its a never ending parade of omg.
blueragedesigns
Personally, if you think YOUR ready, and the other person is ready, then it's fine. I'm an atheist so I don't believe in the bible.

Also I haven't read the whole topic, but some people don't believe in marriage. What happens when they want kids eh? God sends them to hell, even though they where together forever or w/e. It's stupid.

So my answer (:L) Is yes, if your ready etc. You think the person is the right person, then fine. Then again I knew my first wasn't the one. I still did it. But I was a dumb bitch back then :L
dosomethin888
For me personally, Im not going to have sex before marriage. Or I am sincerely going to try not to have sex before marriage. I am a christian so I believe that I need to obey God and I know that he has set out this rule to keep STDs from running rampant and teen pregnancy getting out of hand and kids being raised by a single parent or worse, by kids. I know it is to protect me. And you can see from all these things happening, that God had a reason to implement this rule. Although, shit happens and people do it. So I try not to say anything to others about it. But what irritates me a lot is when people dont use protection. COME ON PEOPLE!
tecknoreject
QUOTE(blueragedesigns @ Jan 2 2009, 05:24 AM) *
Personally, if you think YOUR ready, and the other person is ready, then it's fine. I'm an atheist so I don't believe in the bible.

Also I haven't read the whole topic, but some people don't believe in marriage. What happens when they want kids eh? God sends them to hell, even though they where together forever or w/e. It's stupid.

So my answer (:L) Is yes, if your ready etc. You think the person is the right person, then fine. Then again I knew my first wasn't the one. I still did it. But I was a dumb bitch back then :L


First, your answer is an oxymoron. If you are truely an atheist then you don't believe in the existance of God and therefore He couldn't send anyone to hell if He doesn't exist.
God set rules to protect us from ourselves because we all sin. Sin has a penalty of death. When Adam sinned, he died spiritually then later physically. Luckily God sent Jesus to pay the price for us and redeem us back to Him but you have to first to believe in Him completely and the Bible is not just a book but a love letter to those that look to Him for salvation.
Maccabee
QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Mar 9 2004, 07:09 PM) *
That's true. I don't think it's ok, but I don't think it's bad either. Some people have sex though, and they're too young or immature to realize what a big deal it is. I personally believe that you should hold off on sex... although I didn't sometimes I wish i did ermm.gif

I really wanna hear a second opinion on this. It seems like in this world, it is becoming less and less of a big deal. Should it still be a big deal? I mean even for me it seems like less of a big deal but, I wish it was more of a big deal because then one day when I do do it, it wont be, me being selfish.

It seems that a lot of sex is just people being selfish because they want to enjoy themselves.
rnicron
what if the person you marry SUCKS at sex? you're stuck. and don't tell me that a great marriage can't be partly based on sex to be healthy.
emberfly
QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 PM) *
I really wanna hear a second opinion on this. It seems like in this world, it is becoming less and less of a big deal. Should it still be a big deal? I mean even for me it seems like less of a big deal but, I wish it was more of a big deal because then one day when I do do it, it wont be, me being selfish.

It seems that a lot of sex is just people being selfish because they want to enjoy themselves.


Freedom of choice! ph34r.gif

I'm shocked so many people said no.....
Teesa
QUOTE(rnicron @ Jul 24 2009, 07:45 PM) *
what if the person you marry SUCKS at sex? you're stuck. and don't tell me that a great marriage can't be partly based on sex to be healthy.


haha this is one of the things i'm most scared about
Maccabee
How can someone suck at sex? You can always discuss sex before you get marriage. Because that would be terrible if your partner was scared to be naked or something.
tokyo-rose
QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 24 2009, 08:20 PM) *
How can someone suck at sex? You can always discuss sex before you get marriage. Because that would be terrible if your partner was scared to be naked or something.

LOL. Only a virgin would ask this question. I am one too, but yes, it's possible to be bad at having sex. rofl. And it has nothing to do with being scared to be naked, either.
Maccabee
I dont think we are understanding each other. I mean as long as you aren't timid and not scared to do crazy stuff then there can be no problem. And I dont know who would be timid.
brooklyneast05
^ there can be a billion physical problems that have nothing to do with "being scared to do crazy stuff". i mean like some girl would wanna marry a dude who can't stay up over 10 minutes, for example.
drinksmokefuck
QUOTE(jcp @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 AM) *
I dont think we are understanding each other. I mean as long as you aren't timid and not scared to do crazy stuff then there can be no problem. And I dont know who would be timid.

you have no idea wtf you are talking about, its best just to keep quiet before you look even dumber
Maccabee
Oic! But you can practice to last longer. there are many ways.

And you need you need to shut up, im having a conversation and learning.
drinksmokefuck
learning means shutting up and either listening or reading, now stating bullshit facts that you think you know
Maccabee
stating bullshit facts that you think you know = opinions
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