whos the best rapper out there in the U.S. that you think is good.
i think Kanye West has got some good talent of rapping. i luv his songs and his beat. i hate rap but i like kanye for some reason. so how bout yu??

John Reuben........:-p

Slim Shady /Eminem /Marshall

50 cent- all the other rappers try to jock him, but he's the real deal

So hard to choose one. I'll have to post my top 5.

1 Mos Def
2 Gift Of Gab
3 Kweli
4 Common
5 Chali 2na

umm enimem

Err.
The Beastie Boys.
They count.. right..?

Talib Kweli or Mos Def.

Are you serious man?

Yeh, I was about to ask the same thing...

Mos Def or Common. 50 Cent?! LMAO.

yeah what he said. as for bestrapper, uhh nas, talib matter fact the whole black star, common, dead prez

kanye is nice but he def isnt the hottest thing out, he just the most popular artist thats putting out quality

Common

Dang, thats a tuff one. Kayne is really great on his beats and rapping and stuff. So far pplz think MA$E and Kanye r good rappers. Ma$e is okay.. I got his NEW CD and its iight, i didnt like all the tracks. Kayne and Twista r good rappers. Nas is also good 2. Rap is very complicated, lol, so i dont rlly rank rappers. I'll just say Kanye, Twista, Nas, and MA$E r good rappers (not ranked)

Ludacris is the best rapper.
Best Rap Group: Beastie Boys

not the best but his low voice sounds really cool so ill say Nate Dogg

um...............does the dead count?

only respectable posts here... but ya'll ain't right either...

Common is one of the greatest ever and Talib's my second favorite rapper and Mos is one of my top 10 favorite but Em's the best... then Copywrite, Pharoahe Monch and Crooked I... there's more but those are the top 4 lyrically and as a MC

there were a few Eminem's but I think they're for the wrong reason so they're still not respectable... these are probably Eminem fans that never heard Infinite or 313, when he dropped on of the dopest verses EVER or understand why the lyricism in songs like 'Til I Collapse are so brilliant...

anyway, as for:



ignorance to another level...



and Nate Dogg ain't even a rapper... he's a singer and he does hooks on hip hop songs...

eminem.

I have Infinite, not everyone is as stupid or gittish as you think they are. Stop being so ignorant and let other people have their own opinion. Sheesh.

i like kanye west to jenai...cause he's a fast rapper ... heemin women hater kekeke geun gun bbong e goo keke

common is good and i LUV ludacris

EMINEM

prolly nelly....i love his raps ^^

ludas got some good stuff, not great but pretty good. i got kanyes CD and its pretty good too but he's a producer first and that's what he's best at. of course tupacs up there but he's kind of not here so...does that count? twistas alrite but hes mainly just a fast rapper. definitely Mos def is up there.50 is ok but i think he's just mainly a hook guy. speakin of 50 lloyd banks was great but i dont know. maybe its just me but i think he's lost his touch. he's still pretty good though. recap...luda, pretty good. kanye, pretty good. tupac, good. twista, alright. mos def, very good.50, eh. lloyd banks, good but lost his touch

Kanye West
TWISTA
Krayzie Bones
Luda
jay-z (nvm)
Nas
Jadakiss is aight
umm that new dude Houston he's pretty tight..

...ya

em aint the GOAT, hes nice for any rapper but he cant touch nas or common lyrically. and you guys is sleeping on dead prez. also another name that nobody is mentioning is KRS ONE. That was OG.

and PENtheINSTRUMENT you really sleeping on nas. i dont know how old you are but remember back in 1994 and what the state of hip hop was like. Nas just killed it, straight up killed it, with illmatic. i dont care how wack Streets Disciple is but nas will always be one of the GOATs (greatest of all time). and this thread is real wack. you cant call anyone the GOAT. and you guys who said 50 cent, luda, MA$E, nate dogg, you guys need to listen to more music.

Some people posted legit answers. Kanye West is an average rapper but his beats can get you pumped up (but it looks like people are drying him up like a washcloth) .And btw, Nate Dogg isn't a rapper .

It's pretty difficult to choose just one. But now, I'm in the mood to listen to Masta Ace. I'm listening to both Disposable Arts and A Long, Hot Summer. He's legit.

Umm...not really into rap but I do like Eminem and Kanye West.

Dead Prez is pretty good but I wish they could tone down the racism.

LMAO... you can have Infinite but what made Infinite so brilliant? what about Em's rhyming was considered so amazing in Infinite... there's a certain word for the type of style he spits... you seriously are ignorant in this scenario... sheesh



Em will easily sh*t on Nas or Common... show me a verse that's doper than 313's verse by Nas or Common... Nas isn't even in the same category as Common or Em... Nas is one of the most overrated MC's of all time... KRS One's style is basic as f*ck compared to guys of today... he rhymed one syllable rhymes and if you actually listen to his metaphors, they're very VERY basic... at the time, it was brilliant and he is a legend, undoubtedly, but his style is too simplistic compared to MC's of today...

I"m 19 and I lived through the so called Nas era... and you can look back to 94 with Illmatic but other than It Was Written, IMO, his albums are garbage... and his lyricism even in Illmatic is overrated... production and originality (at the time) got him the legend status on that album... compared to even conscious rappers of today, Nas lacks... Common, Talib, Pharoahe, and Mos Def ALL sh*t ON HIM EASILY.... guys like Copywrite, Crooked I, Eyedea, Planet Asia, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Royce da 5'9, Vakill, Juice, and a ton of others sh*t on Nas EASILY.....

You might say he's overrated but...

I dont think there is a "best" rapper, because I think rap is really annoying

kayne west and eminem for their lyrics... not much about sex,girls, and money... thats good. i think twista because his flow is pretty fast.

please. nas is the modern day pioneer of rap. you never heard a thing like "rewind" before nas dropped it on stillmatic. when nas dropped "i can" on gods son, everyboody slept on it and called him soft. look now BET wanted him to perform it at this yrs awards and everyone from kanye to mobb deep is making positive songs like these. 3 yrs after it came out.

and i heard 313. i heard plenty of better verses then that. listen to AZ's verse on Lifes a B*tch or Nas's verse on NY state of mind. NAS is eminems idol. when nas dissed em, em wasnt even going to respond cause he looks up to nas.

yooy kanye west, jay z, JADAKISS!!

Rewind wasn't that original IMO... honestly, Pharoahe Monch's verse in Stray Bullet was so much more original and more dope... I Can was garbage IMO and not because he's soft... and get the f*ck outta here about Kanye making songs like that because Nas... Kanye got his style off Talib Kweli... even if you listen to Kanye's album, he says Talib's helped 'em out the most outta any rapper... do you not remember Kanye producing the two dopest tracks off Quality!?!?! Talib murders Nas and he's SOO SOOOOOOOOOO more conscious... Nas is fake as f*ck as well... he talks all this bullsh*t about Africa 'n sh*t but he never even goes there... Talib goes there every year, to the conferences, and gives and raises up money to give to poor people... seriously, you gotta major bias cuz I can see in the avatar who you like... he ain't the dopest or even close to it

Nas's verse on NY State of Mind is garbage... c'mon... and Nas ain't Eminem's idol.... that's just ignorant... you're truly truly retarded... Em's been rhyming before he even heard of Nas du'... LL Cool J, Redman, and Tupac are his major idols with the influence of Rakim, Kool G Rap, and more in the rhyming area....

NAS in NEW YORK STATE OF MIND
Rappers I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever niggaz talk sh*t
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggaz be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin niggaz one ran, I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze heard it click yo, my sh*t is stuck
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
and it was filled with children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So whatchu sayin?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger niggaz pullin the triggers bringing fame to they name
and claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids, they run up on us
Fo'-fives and gauges, Macs in fact
Same niggaz'll catch a back to back, snatchin yo' cracks in black
There was a snitch on the block gettin niggaz knocked
So hold your stash until the coke price drop
I know this crackhead, who said she gotta smoke nice rock
And if it's good she'll bring ya customers in measuring pots, but yo
You gotta slide on a vacation
Inside information keeps large niggaz erasin and they wives basin
It drops deep as it does in my breath
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind

EMINEM's 313
So what, you know about a sweet MC, in the 313
You don't know sh*t so when you see one flee
You can be Run-D, you'll never be the MC
I'll stop the alphabet at S and got it down to a T
I'm sure your bound to agree, a sweet MC crashes the spot
I'll make the roof hot like I was Rock Master Scott
Your ass forgot, so just in case you don't remember me
I'll run your brain around the block to jog your f**king memory
It's either them or me man, kill or be killed
You will and be sealed your casket closed you still gonna be billed
My facilities filled with fans, packed to capacity
I'll send a rapper back with the crack of his ass sh*tty
If he's acting soft and he cowers
He better come cleaner then Jay Rue jacking off when he showers
You flowers got no clout with a thing
You could date a stick of dynamite and wouldn't go out with a bang
I showered the slang, simple as A,B,C's
Skip over the D's and rock the microphone with E's
Dethrone MC's and I'ma max alone
Relax your dome like a solo from a saxophone
So facts are known, writers get treated with shocks
I rock a beat harder then you could beat it with rocks
I'm greeted with flocks, of fellow follower's singers
You couldn't make the fans throw up their hands if they swallowed their
fingers
But you can bring yours let's see what you got
But don't front and never try to be what you're not
Cause you can be quick, jump the candlestick, burn your back
And f*ck Jill on a hill, but you still ain't Jack


you know how many quotables are in Em's 313 verse? you probably don't even understand half of 'em, dass why you're talkin' nonsense....

and anyway, when the f*ck did Nas diss Em!?!?! Nas is cool wit Em du'... Em produced a track for Em on God's Son... a track that Em wanted to be on REALLY BADLY but Nas didn't let it happen: rumors are he was shook of gettin' outshined like Hov... anyway, back to the point... Nas never went at Em to my knowledge... they were even at Detroit's hip hop convention together, sitting next to each other just last year... seriously, you don't know what'chu talkin' about

Ummm G-Unit and Jay-Z

^ignorance at G-Unit... and Hov is dope but not the greatest

Odd. i don't like rap AT ALL, but Kanye is cool does that make sense? LOl. I love Jesus Walks and All Falls Down

ha, and i'm just sitting here reading all the stuff you guys are fighting about thinking 'what the hell?'.

I'm obviously not into rap as much as ya'll are...

I'm more of a rock person

haha i agree. those other rappers .. all they ever mention in their lyrics is `bout their jewlery, girls, sex, money etc.

ya'll need to listen to some Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Eyedea, Immortal Technique, Royce da 5'9, Juice, Vakill... those guys don't talk about sex, jewelery, and girls...

I guess I wouldn't really know...Never heard of any of them then again I'm not 19 and into rap like you...but yeah...still..

Here, I posted a song by Talib Kweli for anyone that has yet to hear a song by him.... this one's actually produced by Kanye West and it's called Lonely People... listen to his lyrics and the depth of each thought and line... left click and download it...

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=9F0340EA...90A377768BA5D9C

and leave feedback for the people that are closed minded and won't give new music a chance.........

OH YEAH, AND THIS SONG SHITS ALL OVER ANY SONG NAS HAS EVER MADE... KWELI HAS 2 CLASSICS, ONE NEAR CLASSIC, AND BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE'S GOIN' TO BE HIS THIRD CLASSIC (I'VE HAD THE ADVANCE SINCE JANUARY AND IT'S MASTERFUL).........

that's 3 classics and one near classic in four albums... Blackstar, Reflection Eternal, Quality, and Beautiful Struggle... support the cause and cop his album at the end of this month!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon people, I've said this before, why comment in a thread when you don't like or care about what the topic's about?


The way Eminem was rapping during his Infinite days was similar to Nas's Illmatic days, which is wyy some people claimed that Eminem was biting Nas and also Jay-Z on Reasonable Doubt. Just some info.


Now I'm listening to a bunch of Immortal Technique tracks. He's also an awesome MC.



PEN, I've heard good remarks about Vakill. Do you have on any suggestions to what songs I should hear from him?

uh..Where's Tupac? you mean the greatest rapper of all time? THen it's gotta be tupac, biggie is okay but if you compare him to tupac he's garabage...and Big L? Eazy-E is catchy as well...all y'all talking about weak rap of today..Nas is aight, and guess who his style is based on..yup tupac

holy sh*t you are retarded. if you need some refreshing nas called em a corporate sl*t on hot 97. so shut the f*ck up. and to quote another member


this is nas's exact quote on hot 97


ill even send you a link if you still think im lying.
i dunno maybe im a d/rider but at least im not a complete hater.

and also nas listed nas and jay as two rappers that he idolizes back on 2002. ill try to find a link for you aswell

and you really stupid if you think nas hasnt made a song better then "lonely people".


Fair statement. But name one song like that before that song dropped.

as for vakill, listen to Til the World Blows Up that songs pretty hot or get his album the darkest cloud.

i believe nas's style is based on rakim, and it was rakim that brought him up., and biggie garbage? i believe you are a little biased.

Huzzah! Go get 'em topheavy.

i think that eminem is a pretty good rapper, for a white guy that is!