i know there this topic about this in lounge but i wanted only serious reponses, and i'm asking something different anyway

do you think pot should be legal?
if yes, what good will come out of it?
do you aprove people using it?
have you ever tried it?

i tihnk it should be legal because there is good that will come out of it:
*it would be safer. people would not have to buy from dealers where they didn't know where it had come from.
*there really won't be any dealers. do you see alcohol and cigarettes dealers on the the side of street? you don't
*there would be less pressure to do it
*while the police are busting the marijuana deal, they are missing the crack or herion deal over the next street (okay, that's an exaggeration)
they could focus on the bigger issues.
*taxes!
*cigarettes and alcohol do more damage than marijuana, but they are legal
*most people don't it to be 'cool'. everyone has different effects on it. some peopel said they do it because it helps them eat, sleep, foucus, and get rid of stress.
*illegal drugs are more tempting to do, well i think.
*free up jail cells

what do you think?

I would like to quote Bob Burnquist and Jen O'brien on this one. And I quote:

I agree with what Burnquist and O'brien have to say about this, but I also agree with what the politicians say. They believe that if they legalize Marijuana, that it may lead people to start doing other drugs that are more harmful. Now that's the only point I agree with, I don't agree with the fact that it can kill people. Sure it can do so but cigarettes do that as well. They also say that it can be very harmful if you are driving under the influence . . . but doesn't alcohol do that as well? And aren't cigarettes and alcohol both legal?

So in conclusion, I say legalize it. The government should stop being greedy because they know that it's an plant and that they can't tax us on that.

in some cases. like, medical maijuanna. other than that, no

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if yes, what good will come out of it?

medical purposes

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do you aprove people using it?

no i dont, only for medical purposes. if you do it for the heck of it, that it can lead to more other dangerous drugs

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have you ever tried it?

no

Post should be legal, by it's self it is harmless, aside from brain cells and tar. it is no more dangerous than drinking, and that is legal. Drinking is also the number one killer of people under thirty. But drinking is the cause of self-pity and that is what should be outlawed.

LOL I didn't read that before . . . you've got a point there.

All drugs should be legal ... at least in the privacy of your own homes. Enforcing laws against coercion is itself coercive, and does more harm than the behavior it seeks to prevent.

Drugs were legal until the late 60s. Since then the poverty rate has multipleid three fold and the murder rate twofold.

I totally agree that making them illegal causes more harm.

All drugs should be legal. If people want to kill themselves faster it is their decision. I think its great.

If drugs were all about killing yourself . . . then why are some helpful?

if they do drugs legal then.... the crack heads are gonna try and get the kids to do it.... but after 20 years from now if it becomes legal now, no1 will be really do drugs cuz its legal and no1 cares and stuff... or something like that.

They are helpful, to a certain extent. Unless of course overdosing on Nyquil is helpful. But as of this moment, we are talking about the illegal ones.

i dont think they should be legal, not even cigarrettes should be legal...at any ages. its bad for ur health, smokin em is just making yu die slow.

People killed by Marijuana: 0
People killed by government agents in the War on Drugs: 178 American Citizens since 1969, thousands of foreign nationals
People killed indirectly in the War on Drugs: Estimates between 20,000 and 40,000 a year.
Nonviolent people who do not belong in jail put in jail over the War on Drugs: 900,000 a year.
Property seized in the War on Drugs: $1.5 billion a year
Percentage of said property that belonged to individuals who were never convicted of a crime: 80%
Bill of Rights Amendments violated in the War on Drugs: 9

When you use drugs you only hurt yourself. Enforcing laws against drugs do MORE DAMAGE to you than the drugs themselves.

marijuana is basically illegal only when they see you have it in your hand.

Where in the hell did you get the first statistic?
Where in the hell did you get ANY statistic?

All statistics are from either The Constitution Society (www.constitution.org) or Ten Thigns You Can't Say in America by Larry Elder. The forfeiture statistics are from Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR -- a citizens' watch organization -- www.fear.org). The BIll of Rights is my own statistic. It's not hard to derive.

i think it should be legal. that way all these dumba$$ potheads won't think they're badass anymore so they'll stop. also, at this point in time, if it were to become legal, everyone who smokes it would go buy alot which would help the economy to some effect, right?

i'm way against it (as my siggy clearly states) and i want everyone to stop using it. people could be doing productive things, but they smoke pot instead. if we make it legal it wouldn't be as fun and no one would to it anymore, therfore i'm for it's legalization.

and i've never used it

i think it would be ok for it to be legal cause it would take off some peer presure. but i also think people shud know how much to take and when is too much. cause it does mess you up.

no i have not tried it and im not planning on it

Sure, why not? As Minda said, the number of deaths has increased since drugs have been made illegal. Furthermore, we can use it for a number of things. *Points to previous posts* And if you want to abuse it, fine with me. Just don't get me involved with it. It's your decision to kill yourself. Heh. Same goes with smoking.

I agree with you. Stole the words from my mouth...er...thoughts..?

i agree. and theres less pressure when itz legal instead of illegal yea?

Yeah... let's all just get stoned off our asses and lose all common sense. That's smart.

lets all get drunk too

Yeah, but the thing is, it'll be less appealing to people if it's not hard to get. Most people do it because they want to feel above the law and do something illegal.

Edit // Also, it'll be their decision to smoke it. I mean, it shouldn't matter...it won't affect you much, you know?

One joint has the same effect on your lungs than an entire pack of cigarettes does.... and it's a negative effect...

Marijuana being legal would be very stupid... I mean.. there goes all the potheads' lives, right? If they do marijuana and they get caught or locked up or some ****... then okay they are in there for a while and they have a chance to put their life back together...

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One joint has the same effect on your lungs than an entire pack of cigarettes does.... and it's a negative effect...

Cigarrettes are more addicting than pot. People die every year from cigarette smoking, but no one dies from smoking marijuana.

After you are in jail, it is on your record forever. It will be basically impossible for you attend a good college, or get a decent job. Most people, after leaving jail, end up on government welfare, where we taxpayers pay their way for the rest of their lives. While in jail, they might learn to be violent criminals, and commit REAL crimes down the line, which further causes social harms and harms themselves as well. As nice in theory as it is, very few people manage to put their lives together after spending a long time in jail. On the other hand, a lot of people manage to put their lives together -- on their own -- after using marijuana. Some of them ended up being President of the United States (you know, if you abbreviate President Of The United States, you get POT US). Moreover, a lot of people are punished by civil asset forfeiture in addition to jail -- In other words, the government TAKES ALL YOUR PROPERTY AND DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU A LAWYER. It's almost imopssible to rebuild your life when you own nothing, are on the street, and have 10-year-jail sentence behind you. Even worse, many pot smokers are actually given LIFE sentences now. How do you put your life together when you are in jail for life? Look up the cases of Lonnie Lundy and Debbie Vineyard.

Plus, the ONLY way to enforce laws against drugs is to invade people's Constitutionally-guaranteed privacy. Drugs are a victimless crime, after all. In other crimes, you have a victim to report the crime. But there is no victim in drug abuse. So the only way to conduct a war on it is to vioalte people's rights -- which in the end causes more harm than drugs do. Remember, ALL drugs were legal up until the 1960s. In the 1920s, we tried to launch a war against one drug -- alcohol -- which ended in a bloody failure. Since the War on Drugs began in the late 60s, the poverty rate has jumped from 5% to 15%, the murder rate has doubled, and the rate of Americna in jail has climbed to 0.7% -- more than any other country, and most of the people in American jails have never harmed another human being. Drugs have been legal for 200 years -- and our country did fine. The War on Drugs is as Unconstitutional as it is Unamerican.

“Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man’s appetite by legislation and makes crimes out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.”
--President Abraham Lincoln

Where do you hear that?

It's a scientific fact -- even the government admits it. Even the official government drug propaganda says that marijuana will only slow your reaction time and make you not care about life. If marijauna could kill you, it makes sense that anti-drug ads would SAY that wouldn't it?


Notice the two peaks -- one is Prohibition, the other is the War on Drugs.

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Where do you hear that?

Source: http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.asp?docID=515211

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Even so, evidence suggests smoking pot is much safer than smoking cigarettes, he says. "One of the reasons is that marijuana is not inherently as addictive as tobacco because it doesn't contain nicotine. Many more people get addicted to tobacco smoking than marijuana smoking."

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In a Swedish study, researchers found no link between marijuana use among more than 45,000 male military conscripts, aged 18 to 20, and their death rates over the next 15 years. Another study of 65,171 men and women enrolled in the Kaiser Permanente health plan found that, with the exception of AIDS patients, marijuana users were not more likely than others to die over a 10-year period.

The not dying part. I'm too lazy to read the article ><

You can't be lazy when you question someone else's statements.

Well its not as likely. Not that flat out dont die due to marijuana smoking.

Okay, point me out a situation where someone died from smoking marijuana. Of course, there are people that die from getting in a car and driving under the influence of marijuana, but no one has died from only smoking it.

They don't ... There has never been a respectable study done showing that people die from marijuana.

Well, when I read your statement, my brain makes it as "Nobody dies from marijuana smoking or influence."

So fix your brain?

Marijuana makes you more likely to engage in risky behavior like overeating and reaction-slowing, but it won't kill you if you just sit there and smoke it.

(Adding onto this) ...where as you can get lung cancer and die from cigarette smoking. So if cigarettes are more harmful, why are they legalized? Why not legalize marijuana? Besides, pot has a positive influence as well. Just ask doctors who'd like to give it to their patients to use.

Because people can grow it in the privacy of their own home and the government cannot benefit from that. Greedy people

Why are they greedy? Bad greed is when you want to TAKE things belonging to someone else. It's not wanting to KEEP things that you already own -- that's called pragmatism.

So are you going to stop people from planting their own vegetables or flowers in their backyard?

I was talking about the government y'all.


I was talking about the governmernment.


//EDIT: I'm so for legalizing it. Haven't you read my posts?

Oh haha. I read it the wrong way. I see what you mean now.

did you read what i said?
not everyone does pot to be 'cool'.
it has different effects on different people.

any drug that can spread its effects on others without their permission should be illegal. i dont want to inhale mary jane or any type of smoke when im breathing! it goes against my unalienable rights of being a homosabian, the right to breath clean air and live.

Heard of no smoking sections? Same rules would be applied.

So just beat them with a stick?

Actually smoke particles can travel around the world in just 5 weeks if it can be caught in a jet stream. So basically if drugs were legal, it would become a habit for most people to start smoking everywhere causing more smoke build up in the air.

Right now you could be inhaling smoke molecules inside your lungs. Just think, smokers are increasing the chances of you getting lung cancer right now. Even with laws, the pollution is still increasing and smoking is just increasing the pollution causing the air to be toxic.

Not true. That isn't the case with cigarettes otherwise most would be addicted to them. And by most I mean more then now. So how do you know it would be the case with pot?