Who is Paine, and why does he enjoy seeing me cut myself?

Why cut yourself when you can cut other people?

Sierra I appreciate how you try to post lots in CB but see, you're posting topics that were already made

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yeah..i know a few ppl who cut themselves to relieve wtvr pain their feeling/to feel alive...and i know other ppl who cut themselves as a form of artistic expression..

and i think its really foolish..and of course dangerous...my friend hit a vein and got sent to the hospital..it really doesnt solve anything ..why dont u just chop off ur own hand b/c ur in so much pain..>.< heh..

there's this big trend thing going on now at school. apparently some girl started it, & now theyre all cutting themselves now. to tell you the truth, i wish they'd all just die, because i never even stopped to believe that any of them cut because they want to die, i kno that theyre only cutting for attention. but in reverse, they are getting less attention, because everyone thinks theyre dumb & stupid now. i cut before.. but it hurt so much, even emotional pain would hurt much less. i think that the girls at school only cut because they are attention-seekers & have some big mental issue.. im happy to be the ones pulling them into rehab, but killing them in their will would be just as great. they dont deserve to live when theyre trying to threaten themselves, besides that, theyre also influencing other girls to cut themselves too in a way.. & i think that they ought to stop just for the sake of it. there's no point. why not just jump out the window if you really want to die that bad?

that was a bit harsh laurie......
just cause they made one stupid mistake in their life doesnt mean that they have to die for it
i get why they would cut, never did it myself, too afraid of blood and pain but i do wrap a string around my fingers really tightly, it works. cutting yourself is not about getting attention... i know someone that was a against it, like really strongly, but in the end they cracked and gave in. cutting just gives you something more to think about other than the pain. i agree with you, it's a stupid thing to do as seeing that you most likely get scars for your life and they'll just be there as a reminder for how much pain you went through. granted there are people that just cut themsleves for attention, but most of the time i dont think it is...
bout the influencing thing, its not, its each and everyone's choice to do what they want

okay, firstly: cutting is stupid. you're hurting yourself for something that's probably not worth a scar.

secondly: why would someone want attention for cutting? i mean, who would want someone to go "ooh" and "ah" at their wrist cause there are lines on there?

like the above (prettysmiles), i know someone who was strongly against it, but gave in after-all. some people just dont know what they're doing.

I understand that some people can't see through their pain and believe that cutting yourself is the only way to get through it.

I have had many friends that do this. And honestly, it may just be a phase that many, many people do, but to help others, it takes a mix of tough love and t.l.c.

You don't necessarily need to contact an adult, but that's always smart. Just remember: this is cautious ground. Don't involve too many people, but don't shy away. If there's a problem, then fix it.

finally someone reasonable!

There are people who are disgusted with cutting yet they don't do anything to help...

People get desperate for attention and that is what happens. In fact, this is the truth behind many cases of "attempted suicide," "threatened suicide," and cutting. I knew a girl who made fake scars with paper clips and pencils to front like she was a cutter. It got her plenty of attention.

In most cases, if people truly want to die, they don't tell anyone, they just kill themselves. When someone tells you that they are going to do it, it's a cry for attention and possibly help. It's sick, detestable, contemptible, weak, foolish, and idiotic. I don't like it at all. But, I have nothing to do with it either.

So whatever.

Want some awesome statistics?!

Women are three times more likely to report attempting suicide at one point in their lives while men are four times more likely to in fact die from suicide. Suicide is the 8th leading cause of death in Males. (Anderson and Smith 2003, Krug et al. 2002)

Think about that. The explanations for these statistics are countless, but I'm sure you could think up your own.

In a world where White Heterosexual Males "got it the most," they sure do kill themselves alot!

^sexism...pure sexism...


yeah maybe they're not satisfied enough

You have got to be kidding me?

^It was joke. Jesus.

even though i've never cut before... i mean, pain+more pain=less pain?! even if it relieved you for a few minutes, is it really worth it? there are other easier ways of letting it out, like talking to someone, punching bags, etc.

you might as well kill yourself. it sounds cruel, but cutting is like a cheap way of trying to relieve yourself. if life is that bad... which it usually isn't.

get therapy, talk to someone... cutting is just pointless

i know how you feel; my ex cuts and its because of our relationship problems before. but now he still cuts and many people say hes suing that so i can feel sorry for him and comeback to him. i really want him to stop too but hes just being a real pain in the ass right now and wont listen to anyone.

most people cut for attention all your friend probably wants is attention that why some people commit suicide and do stupid things its cuz they want someone to care someone to just care about them and pay atleast some attention even if its a little cuz im sure they feel neglected and need someone to talk to

yup...no one was born with the agenda ...to do list: cut myself when im in my teens ...ppl start doing this stuff after some incident in their lives..where they feel unloved so they want to bring attention to themselves ..but i dont think they should let such an incident get to them so much to start hurting themselves..=\ but a few of my friends actually enjoy cutting themselves .. o well

I have a friend who cuts herself and her boyfriend and all her friends (including me) told her to stop and as far as i know she did stop. So just give your friend alot of support to stop but dont like bug her about it or else she'll get mad. If that doesnt work tell her parents.

not so sure about the tell your parents, for all you know, even thought you mean well, it coul get her into soo much trouble that she'd hate you for it. all you can do right now is push her to see that cutting yourself is just not worth it. but they may turn around themselves, i had a friend that did and now she regrets it soo much...

[font=Century Gothic] I am just expressing my opinion so don't expect a flood of slag off's from random people. I won't respnd to them, give you the power to feel better than me to argue etc etc. Basically I have cut in the past and still have had urges to do it. I have never done it for attention as I have hid my arms, which I mainly self-mutulated. It's only scars now, which I don't regret at all. It becomes a part of you so you become comfortable with who you are. Others freak out when they may see scars but then they're not used to having them. I know I cut for a reason. All my anger and tension built up over my parents splitting so my energy was so stong that I needed to calm it. Exercise helps a lot so do that if you can. Emotions ran high and I started drawing on myself, which let to scraping then cutting. It helps if you have someone there I didn't. It helps to feel like you don't have to deal with emotions on your own but most of the time you do. So it builds up and somehow you have to release the tension and sometimes a punch bag isn't just enough.

Cutting is a unfortunetaly quite a popular teenage behavior and yes, during this moment of life, it can be a way to seek attention, but it's definitely not the case for everyone. And self-injury most of the time is a way to prevent from committing suicide by relieving the pain for a while , so some of the clever people who answer "if you're cutting yourself you'd better kill yourself already" should really give some thoughts about what they're saying.

I've been a cutter myself for a while, though not during my teenage years. It started when I was eighteen as a part of a general depression. I really had no choice in my head : i needed to cut or i would choke on psychological sufferings. And the cutting had a real relieving effect. It helped me getting back to normal. But it was not a normal behavior : i was sick (yes, depression is a disease) and needed help. It was quite long for me to recover, but i'm alright now.

I've found help in various places.
This site is a must read, it really explains what is self-injury, and it has a "Friend/Family" page with advices : The Secret Shame Site
This community is a very good place to find support, for cutters or/and for friends who have to deal with it : Body U nder Siege Web Board

Of course, if depression is the cause of the self-injury, then there's no other way around but seeking help of a professionnal. Though sometimes you have to see many doctors to find the one who'll really be able to treat you. (i went to four different docs, before i felt the one i'd found would really help me).

There is not one way to see or to deal with self injury, you can't just dissmiss it as "attention seeking behavior", because even if it's the case, it means that there is a deeper problem (why would the person feel the need to seek attention in the first place ?).

Hope this helps.

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I don't think cutting is stupid. I think some of the reasons that encourage people to cut are stupid. Cutting for attention is stupid. Plain and simple. Cutting because it's a trent is stupid. Plain and simple. However, cutting because you're severely and clinically depressed just expresses your pain (even though seeking help is a much better choice).

Nobody should do it! Its not worth anybodys time and energy and its just stupid.. theres better ways to kill your self anyway.. >.<

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not to make myself seem bad but i've cut myself alot not as much as sum people but to do it relieves something that is inside you it doesnt seem to hurt you till the day after it helps in a sense. it seems weird to alot of people and most people dont understand and call people like me and others 'attention seekers' and it really upsets people not anoth for them to cut themselves but most reasons cannot be explained because it hurts emotionally inside for them to let out and instead of the normal way that everyone else seems to thinks works for them does not work and it is a sense of punishing yourself like you did summin bad and now you'll pay for it.it is your own punishment a stupid one i realize but promising to stop does not work im 15 yrs old and i've been hurting myself since year 7 and it has got worse as i've grown up im now in year 10 and people have realized and started yelling at me i know they love me but it does not help they call you attention seekers and emo's although there is nothing wrong with emo's i get called one all the time you get used to it after a while it still hurts that people dont understand and think it will stop you by yelling it at you!!! it is funny how the brain works and it wont stop bugging you until you've done it. my worst scar was caused by a nail file and that was painful but it relieved me for weeks as i could feel the pain. crying for 3hrs straight hysterically was bad but it doesnt stopfrom cutting yourself i dont know how to i've tried i lasted two weeks and that is my longest. does ne one have any ideas?????

I heard if you do it you go straight to hell.... O.O

^Yeah there was something that the priests said that cutting wrists violates this one religious rule. For religious people, yeah it's obvious you're going to hell if you're cutting because you're basically unhappy and unfaithful to God, if you were faithful, you'd be too busy to cut.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. <3

You're very welcome. i know how hard this situation can be, for veryone involved, and i'm glad if i can help.

At our school some stupid kid decided cutting yourself was "cool" and now LOTS of kids do it. I don't and I wish others didn't either. Half the kids just cut themselves to look cool which REALLY doesn't make sense. And, it doesn't solve anything.

you wont go to hell if you think about it everyone has differnet religions and some people dont do it cos it is cool but because they're suffering emotionally and they are finding it hard to cope with and they turned everything that was good to them to bad and they feel really secluded and what the people need is abit of like help or time to think about things
but a load of things you guys have said is quite useful

People try to make it sound like some sort of healthy escape, but it's NOT. You can do SO many more things - take up sports, write, watch a comedy, jeez - even hang out with your friends. Put on some loud music and sing along with it. Why slash your skin? It doesn't make any sense.

And the reasons people are "depressed".. don't even get me started.

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everyone sees me as the crazy outgoing nothing-is-wrong-with-me girl, but at home whenever i get in a huge fight with my mom, i lock myself in my room when shes outside yelling at me and i go in the bathroom and cut myself over the sink. i guess i kind of did it because i was mad at myself and it was like torturing myself for what i did. the scars never go away and im looking at them now there on my arm above the elbow.
all my friends asked me what they were and i made up some stupid thing like "a painting fell on me"
i think u should tell ur friend that those cuts may take the pain away at the time, but years later, she'll see those scars and it will remind her of why she did it and the pain will just come back again like it did for me.

help her feel like somebody's there for her... you can be the one to put them smiles in her face. give her attention...

I believe it's wrong, but there's really no way you can tell that to someone who's depressed. You can't tell them to stop what they're doing, really. All you can do is try to help them out in whatever way they need. Get their minds focused on something good. Have them look forward to something.

No life is perfect. No one can live life without problems. You stopped cutting right?

I don't want anyone to cut anymore. One scar is just one waste of time. People can do better by smiling a bit more despite the days. No one ever has it easy, but it can be better if you keep your spirits up? Sure I'm going through hard days, but I think it would be easier if I can go through them and just ask for help. To me life is too short to be sad about everyday problems. To stop on a road after going through so many obstacles is pointless.

kay so. i used to cut, not a lot but still. and i wasnt one of those people who told everyone and threw it around like a banner of who they were. and i always regretted it. I finally stopped and have realized that i have been so much happier without physical scars.
I am also a very very strong Christian, and nowhere in the Bible does it say that "cutting your wrist will make you go to Hell". we all fall short to the glory of God, so no one gets to heaven by doing good deeds, and no one gets to hell by doing bad deeds. it has nothing to do with that. the Bible does say that your body is a temple and you should honor it, so yes, cutting is without a doubt wrong. but when you become a Christian, the Bible says that there is nothing you can do that will change that, unless you turn your back of God entirely and never come back.kay so, i know that kind of went away from the cutting deal, but i just didnt want anyone confused. :)

hey if u feel like cutting yourself and it feels good then do it. thats like saying you shouldn't masturbate. if it feels good and you like doing it to yourself cut away i say

^^uhhh...

Nooo it's sooo wrong. God created us not to let us hurt ourself.

it's a lot more common than most people know. i think its a phase. and i think a lot of people go through it. there's always a time when someone feels they're "depressed" or, at least they think they are. a lot of people resort to self-mutilation. sadly, there's not much we can do about it, besides try and talk to the person, and help them out..

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i noticed a few people have said something about cutting being "cool". i really don't understand that concept. they don't understand that there are people out there that REALLY have a cutting problem that they almost can't control. they seem to be mocking them or something. that really ticks me off even though i'm not one of those people, if they think cutting is cool, they are most definitely wrong!
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its a no no go to the gym and take aerobics yoga or boxing it works

well, I even have a problem thinking about cutting myself. I almost did it once, but I couldn't even look at the knife without flipping out, so I didn't do it.

I think it'd hurt... get her help! Tell someone else about it! Don't just sit back and do nothing, get her to stop, it's a serious issue.

I cut everyday and sometimes people black my eyes and slit my wrists until I can't stand it anymore. Of course, I always tolerate it because I'm hxc.

Wtf? I never heard anything like that. That's horrible.

well im a cutter...so if one of my friends wanted to help me..id want them to talk to me about it and stuff...yeaa so just try to talk to her about it if she pushes you away keep trying every so often uventually shesll talk

Some people just use cutting to get attention. Damn media. Just talk to her about it and tell her that you're concerned. If she doesn't listen, then it's her own well-being she's gambling with.

tell her my story...................

(I posted this in the "cutting" forum and just copied it for you)

cutting has got to be the stupidest thing you can do to yourself. I used to cut alot myself. I mean cuts over cuts over cuts my arms were covered. I now see a psycologist and have been for about a lil over 2 years now. She has helped alot and i love her. now you can't always get a great psyc. i know that and i guess i got lucky to have one so great. but i now know that it just isn't worth it, I didn't do it for attention either i did it for the same reason as you. My psyc. has helped me find different ways to deal with the pain and all of that crap. I still have the scars to remind me and sometimes when i look at my arms i cry. but i need the scars to be there so i remind myself constantly not to do it. It may relieve pain, but it just brings so much more pain to it all. I lost myself and should have been sent to a hospital but i wasn't because i have people who care about me and so do you. The things i have done to help get past cutting was that i got more intouch with my artistic abilities and drew what i felt, sometimes i would write it down. I also got closer to god and closer to my youth group and my own family. They have helped me and encouraged me so much it is unbelievable. but now that i'm over all of that i realize how low i was getting and how great my life really is. If you keep doing this to yourself it's just going to get worse. It's an addiction and takes some time to get over. but it is worth it quit. And by posting this thread it seems like you are doing it for attention, but maybe it's just a cry for help. All i know is that your life needs a turn around and the first thing you should do to turn it around is to stop cutting. It took me 2 years to quit, but i did it and not just for me. Don't waist your life cutting. It's NOT worth it!

I used to cut myself. I did it because I was in pain. Yeah. It relieved pain. But after, it hurt. It stung. And It reaked of suckyness. I made ALL my friend worry about me. Cry because of me. And its not a good feeling. Best thing you can do, is, probably back off for awhile. And then ask her why she hurts, and why she thinks cutting herself is the answer to relieve herself of pain.

Relieve pain my ass. There are better ways to relieve pain.

I sould get a stress ball for every person that says it releaves pain coz yeah thats just waste of blood.