Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Looks like the world is changing
Forums > Community Center > Debate
Devastation
i've been noticing the change in movies, singers, careers and alot of other things that women are rising to the occasion. its good to see them finally take a step. pretty soon its going to be herstory instead of history. well maybe not that, but soon a woman president.
JlIaTMK
maybe or maybe its going to be both?! mellow.gif

but the fact that men ruled the history in the past cant change
LiNHy POO
aahhh yehh... i havent noticed a BIG change.. but yehh its changing more and more little by day!! happy.gif
01-supergirl
GIRL POWER. muwhaha lmfaos soon enough we're going to take over the world.
Sumiaki
QUOTE(01-supergirl @ Jul 29 2004, 2:35 PM)
GIRL POWER. muwhaha lmfaos soon enough we're going to take over the world.

*Is scared* cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif A estrogen revolution awaits us. Prepare for the end of the world as we know it. shifty.gif
IIO__oII
maha
perhaps the antichrist is a girl..?
>=D
inthemudhole
I guess that's cool.. but I'm not the OMG GURL POWA! type of girl..
Kathleen
Hmm...actually, I just noticed it in the music industry. The guys are holding it down in acting, though. _smile.gif *Licks nearest Johnny Depp picture*
Devastation
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jul 29 2004, 2:43 PM)
maha
perhaps the antichrist is a girl..?
>=D

eh i doubt it.
xjjajeengx
it a better improvement. If you guys have noticed, esp. in korea, the wives dont take all the beatings from the husband anymore. Heck, even in the korean dramas, the wives actually fight back. thass right, no more taking hits from some drunkard with all this money and like 28374974 girlfriends he sleeps with every other week. laugh.gif

but what i dont think is good is the rise of women cheating on their husbands... blink.gif not good...
ThePrincessofTKD
QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ Jul 29 2004, 4:44 PM)
it a better improvement. If you guys have noticed, esp. in korea, the wives dont take all the beatings from the husband anymore. Heck, even in the korean dramas, the wives actually fight back. thass right, no more taking hits from some drunkard with all this money and like 28374974 girlfriends he sleeps with every other week. laugh.gif

but what i dont think is good is the rise of women cheating on their husbands... blink.gif not good...

i heard on CNN HEADLINE NEWS, that there was a guy who murdered alot of women in korea because his girlfriend broke up with him...so they said it was a hate crime.. pinch.gif that`s sad..

anyways..like THE SPICE GIRLS always say..."GIRL POWER!!! equalization between the sexes..hmm.." laugh.gif
jaeman
Yeah, I have been seeing changes. But not big changes, I see little changes.
jo3
yea...things are getting more and more equal

no offense to the girls, but i don't think there's gonna be a woman president for a long, long time. i think a colored man will become president before a woman gets into office (just like how colored men were able to vote first)
x_hiccupy_x
QUOTE(jo3 @ Jul 29 2004, 7:11 PM)
yea...things are getting more and more equal

no offense to the girls, but i don't think there's gonna be a woman president for a long, long time. i think a colored man will become president before a woman gets into office (just like how colored men were able to vote first)

haha we`ll see about that wink.gif

i just think it sucks how there arent really any asian girls that are making it big in hollywood other than lucy liu. just coz we're not close to looking like the typical blonde or white girl ( who are all gorgeous) it just seriously sucks. sad.gif
Boricuahh_Mamii
if tha werld was ruled by women instead of men, everything would b hella better..at least thats wah i think..
i mean guys dunno wa it feels like 2 have 2 push a baby out they p*ssy so if a woman ran things she would make sure alla tha lil babys out thea wouldnt have to starve cuz they would know how it feels to bring a baby into this world..
did any of that make sense?? ermm.gif

haha imma run for president and make all of the men b my slaves!!!!!! its our turn laydees!!


oh lord so hyper rih now..
Luster Soldier
What are you talking about, girls always control guys and they always have power. (at least they have me controlled)
CEP
Yeah, and I'm 8 feet tall.
Pshh.. have the US elect a female President then talk about how the world is becoming matriarchal.
Seriously, you sound like you're p*ssy whipped, Andy.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
Sumiaki
QUOTE(jo3 @ Jul 29 2004, 7:11 PM)
yea...things are getting more and more equal

no offense to the girls, but i don't think there's gonna be a woman president for a long, long time. i think a colored man will become president before a woman gets into office (just like how colored men were able to vote first)

I agree with you. I don't think a woman president is gonna come until after a colored or non caucasian male becomes president. But still heed my warning.

Estrogen controlling men? I think it's already starting to show in most relationships. laugh.gif
hybrid
I'd like to see a female president with Asian blood, though. _smile.gif tongue.gif

Who am I kidding? Asian women like to become nurses.. anything in the medical field. happy.gif
sweetdreamsx3
Lol, but it'll be nice to see a female President. Who knows? They might make a lot of smart decisions. :P
AngelicEyz00
QUOTE(CEP @ Jul 29 2004, 7:33 PM)
Yeah, and I'm 8 feet tall.
Pshh.. have the US elect a female President then talk about how the world is becoming matriarchal.
Seriously, you sound like you're p*ssy whipped, Andy.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

rofl....

haha, pussy whipped... maybe just a tad, eh?
yeseulx3
QUOTE(ThePrincessofTKD @ Jul 29 2004, 5:04 PM)
anyways..like THE SPICE GIRLS always say..."GIRL POWER!!! equalization between the sexes..hmm.." laugh.gif

laugh.gif lmao to that
silver-rain
yeah, haha girl power. eh, it would be cool to see an asian woman president. hmm, maybe i should consider that...
Just_Dream
Girls can do many things guys can. You know what? Girls have alot of control because they are ABLE to bear children...

MOVED TO DEBATE
Just_Dream
Girls can do many things guys can. You know what? Girls have alot of control because they are ABLE to bear children...

MOVED TO INTERESTS > DEBATE
PuRrFeCt GhErRl o4
The world is changing into a much worse place...what has God punished us with?
heroin_like_high
I think that's true, women are having more freedom and control. BUT, also, there's a lot of young girls who are looking at their idols like Britney or Christina, and turning into complete ho's because they "have complete control" of what they wanna do with their life.

It just seems like to me, the more us women have control, the worst it gets for the youngins. They get pregnant, have boyfriends, lose their virginity all waaaaaaaaay too early. Kinda sux actually.

_dry.gif
PuRrFeCt GhErRl o4
By 2024, gherrls will be losing their virginity when they're 9 yrs. old, so they'll have to change it from sweet 16 to sweet 11.
xnastyninjagrlx
yah I hope there might be a woman president someday..that would be really nice..
ComradeRed
Too bad the only woman right now who could conceivably be elected is Hillary Clinton, who is probably the scariest person in politics.
kryogenix
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 30 2004, 9:08 PM)
Too bad the only woman right now who could conceivably be elected is Hillary Clinton, who is probably the scariest person in politics.

I can't stand her. "Hey I moved to New York, that means I'm like you guy now! Vote for me!" And the worst part is, they did vote for her. Man, if Rudy G. didn't get diagnosed with cancer the world would be a better place.

Look what has happened since women have received more rights. Divorce and abortion. Hooray for women's rights!
ComradeRed
Look what happened when women didn't have rights! Less than half the population actually had a say in government and marriage was seen as a death trap! Horray!

"Marriage is a wonderful institution. But who would want to live in an institution?"
--HL Mencken

There's nothing wrong with EQUAL Rights for women -- they should have those -- just not SPECIAL rights for women that men do not have. Women are expected to abide by laws -- therefore, they should have a say in the society.

Rudy Giuliani would lose to Hillray Clinton in an election. As popular as he is, HE WAS A MAYOR. To be a President, you have to be at least a Governor or a Senator first. Or at least a Representative (but even then, only a few Presidents fit this: Eisenhower, FDR, Andrew Jackson, etc.). The only person in history who was President without being in Congress or a Governor or a VP first was Washington.

I think that, for 2008, Ron Paul should run against Hillary Clinton. That would be funny. Ron Paul would barely eek out a victory... I think he'd pick up Pennsylvania because he was born in Pittsburgh, but Clinton would probably win Arkansas and Tennessee... As a "Sagebrush Rebel", Ron Paul would win Oregon and Washington too, though I think he'd lose Ohio and definitely West Virginia... Florida and Missouri would be the states to watch. Maybe Minnesota.

Of course, if the GOP Primaries were between Paul and Giuliani, Giuliani would probably win the primaries ... but lose the election.

But if Ron Paul was nominated (by some freak accident ... or the right combination of bribery and political assassination), some crazy third-party homophobia guy would run -- like Jerry Falwell -- and win Utah.

If I could reincarnate the dead, I'd reincarnate Davy Crockett for President and Barry Goldwater for Veep. I would do Thomas Jefferson, but he's already had two terms so it'd be quite unconstitutional.
ryfitaDF
wheres the problem?
TrannieL
Woman president, i hope there will be one in the US _smile.gif

- Tran -
kryogenix
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 31 2004, 9:09 AM)
Look what happened when women didn't have rights! Less than half the population actually had a say in government and marriage was seen as a death trap! Horray!

"Marriage is a wonderful institution. But who would want to live in an institution?"
--HL Mencken

There's nothing wrong with EQUAL Rights for women -- they should have those -- just not SPECIAL rights for women that men do not have. Women are expected to abide by laws -- therefore, they should have a say in the society.

Rudy Giuliani would lose to Hillray Clinton in an election. As popular as he is, HE WAS A MAYOR. To be a President, you have to be at least a Governor or a Senator first. Or at least a Representative (but even then, only a few Presidents fit this: Eisenhower, FDR, Andrew Jackson, etc.). The only person in history who was President without being in Congress or a Governor or a VP first was Washington.

I think that, for 2008, Ron Paul should run against Hillary Clinton. That would be funny. Ron Paul would barely eek out a victory... I think he'd pick up Pennsylvania because he was born in Pittsburgh, but Clinton would probably win Arkansas and Tennessee... As a "Sagebrush Rebel", Ron Paul would win Oregon and Washington too, though I think he'd lose Ohio and definitely West Virginia... Florida and Missouri would be the states to watch. Maybe Minnesota.

Of course, if the GOP Primaries were between Paul and Giuliani, Giuliani would probably win the primaries ... but lose the election.

But if Ron Paul was nominated (by some freak accident ... or the right combination of bribery and political assassination), some crazy third-party homophobia guy would run -- like Jerry Falwell -- and win Utah.

If I could reincarnate the dead, I'd reincarnate Davy Crockett for President and Barry Goldwater for Veep. I would do Thomas Jefferson, but he's already had two terms so it'd be quite unconstitutional.

i was talking about the NY senate race. Where Hillary just moved to Chappaqua and claimed she was a New Yorker. And then Rudy had to drop out so Lazio had to take his place.

QUOTE
"Marriage is a wonderful institution. But who would want to live in an institution?"
--HL Mencken


Homosexuals.
CrackedRearView
Don't mean to break up the Girl Power rally here, but who in Heaven's name gives a rat's ass?

I've grown up completely unaware until just 5 or 6 years ago about any discrimination against women -- I've always treated them as my equal, and I don't see why people still make such a huge deal about it.

It's going to be a "woman's world" now, when I wish it could be a "person's world".

Honestly, we make such moronic fracases about the most unimportant, and (should be) insignificant issue in the climb up the success ladder, and that's what's in between your legs.

I know, in history men have oppressed women, it's been horrible, yadda yadda yadda...

But I've been alive 17 years, and 17 years discrimination free. Now I'm going to have to pay for something I had no part in doing.

Kind of like my brother did... he applied for an illustrious scholarship to the Washington University in St. Louis, played 4 years of basketball, 4 years of football, 4 years of swimming, National Honors Society, maintained a 4.2 GPA, earned a 32 on his ACT and was beat out by a feminist girl who had a mediocre mid 3 GPA, was involved in no activities, and took part in minimal challenging courses in high school.

I'm sorry, but that is injustice, and my Washington caliber brother is now forced to go to a state school.

What ever happened to basing decisions on credentials, and not body parts?
kryogenix
QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 31 2004, 5:59 PM)
Don't mean to break up the Girl Power rally here, but who in Heaven's name gives a rat's ass?

I've grown up completely unaware until just 5 or 6 years ago about any discrimination against women -- I've always treated them as my equal, and I don't see why people still make such a huge deal about it.

It's going to be a "woman's world" now, when I wish it could be a "person's world".

Honestly, we make such moronic fracases about the most unimportant, and (should be) insignificant issue in the climb up the success ladder, and that's what's in between your legs.

I know, in history men have oppressed women, it's been horrible, yadda yadda yadda...

But I've been alive 17 years, and 17 years discrimination free. Now I'm going to have to pay for something I had no part in doing.

Kind of like my brother did... he applied for an illustrious scholarship to the Washington University in St. Louis, played 4 years of basketball, 4 years of football, 4 years of swimming, National Honors Society, maintained a 4.2 GPA, earned a 32 on his ACT and was beat out by a feminist girl who had a mediocre mid 3 GPA, was involved in no activities, and took part in minimal challenging courses in high school.

I'm sorry, but that is injustice, and my Washington caliber brother is now forced to go to a state school.

What ever happened to basing decisions on credentials, and not body parts?

my gosh. that's horrible.

i too feel that this feminist movement is a bit flawed. i made a comment about feminism and my english teacher (a staunch feminist) said feminism is equal rights for men and women. but it doesn't look that way at all to me.
CrackedRearView
QUOTE
i made a comment about feminism and my english teacher (a staunch feminist) said feminism is equal rights for men and women. but it doesn't look that way at all to me.


Sadly, that isn't the case. If it were I'd be a strong advocate of feminist ideology, but after what happened to my brother, the #2 in his class and National Merit Scholar, I'll never appreciate feminism again.

Sad thing is, it was made clear that it was a choice of affirmative action, and now that unqualified girl holds the spot at my brother's dream college that was reserved for him.

It's a crying damn shame we don't have enough to send him ourselves...it's upwards of $40,000 per year.
ComradeRed
Wash U at St. Louis bases its scholarships entirely on your application essay ... and they only offer 15 at each school ... it's very hard to get them.

There could've been other reasons as well, like if the woman was poorer.

In my experience, gender-based affirmative action is very low ... women only get a slight boost over men. Chances are she had a much better essay, or was poorer than your brother (income-based affirmative action is in very high effect).

Furthermore, I can tell you right now that very few scholarships are subject to affirmative action (except for scholarships that are only for blacks, etc.) Admissions IS, but financial aid isn't. I have close friends who work as admissions staff at Chicago and Duke (I've also recieved very in-depth information about Brown's admissions office when I was there this summer), which both have similiar financial aid programs to Washington University.

Full merit-based scholarships are usually based on arcane criteria like how much they like your essay, that it is NOT a good idea to depend on them. I've been sent applications by every Ivy League school except Columbia without asking, I have five 800 SAT 2 scores, including Writing and Math 2C, straight-5s on AP Tests, qualified to the AIME twice, had my school's highest Math League scores since Sophomore Year, ranked in the top 5% of my class, which is already one of the most competitive schools in Pennsylvania, National Merit Scholar (226 on the PSAT), 1590 SAT, 2nd place debater in my state, a national semifinalist in debate, 300 hours of community service, and I've attended three years of summer school and have straight-As at four different colleges, including an Ivy League one, and I'm doing a MAJOR research thesis senior year of high school... And I'm not even trying to get merit money. My friend at Chicago said that the process is unpredictable as hell and usually depends on how much the reading committee likes your essay more than anything else such as grades, tests, etc. You simply can't blame affirmative action for that. It doesn't play a role.

Moreover, Wash-U is very richly-endowed. Even if you didn't get merit-based aid, I'm sure that if you really needed the money, you could've gotten need-based aid.
sikdragon
didnt i say feminism is the worst thing to happen to america through out it's history.

I hope there isnt a female president in the near future. Margaret Thatcher is the only woman who had the cognitive capacity to lead a nation such as ours, but she is dead. No other woman has shown the ability to rise to the occasion without letting emotion control her.

I'm not sexist. For those who think i am, I feel sorry for you.
ComradeRed
If women really don't have enough cognitive capacity, how come they are a majority at all eight Ivy League schools? How come women on average score higher on the SATs and IQ tests than men do?

The only reason women don't get elected much is because they tend to be SHORTER than men -- 90% of the time, the taller guy beats the shorter guy in an election.
CrackedRearView
QUOTE
In my experience, gender-based affirmative action is very low ... women only get a slight boost over men. Chances are she had a much better essay, or was poorer than your brother (income-based affirmative action is in very high effect).


It was probably the latter, because my brother scored a 5 on his English 11 AP exam, a 5 on his English 12 AP exam, was the chief editor of our high school's newspaper, and is finishing up his (great, in my opinion) novella.
ComradeRed
Perhaps then.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.