^ you haven't seen how far a person will hold on to his/her sentimentally driven aggression. I only said it as a joke, by the way, alluding to how people never read the full thread before using the reply buttons. I will refrain from joking ever again.

Someone bashed Mr. Acid before thinking that he supported Hitler.... so hey... it happens.

my humor is more obscure :)

they didnt... its documented that they allies had a pretty clear idea of what was going on in poland and thwe like, but they were unsure of how to handle the situation

then why, may i ask, were american soldiers suprised to find the camps? why did not the bombers bomb the train tracks? the gas chambers? all of these would have been logical, had the allies actually known about it.

the whole concentration camp system could have been crippled if the train tracks were bombed. but why not bomb them? if you know what they are for, why not bomb them?

((( ATTENTION EVERYONE. DON'T GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT. HAVE FUN. THIS IS A DEBATE, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AN OPPOSITION ARGUEMENT NOW)))

fae, if someone does think the worst of me, i'm sure they'll come through... did you catch the part in the abortion thread where someone thought i was anti-women's rights? i'll admit, it was my fault for not wording it well, but they understood after i explained it...

im sure individua lamerican troops were surprised to find the gas chambers, however, the governement as a whole was aware

however, the scale of what was going on was not fully understood, therefore priority was directed towards other targets as opposed to the train tracks, and i presume the concentration camps weren't bombed themselves b/c they could not be pinpointed within the camps, and gnerals were unwilling to risk hitting, say a barrack.

will do proper research tonite or tomoz when i haev more time

The Holocaust was a genocide.

they knew they were rounding them up and taking them somewhere, they just weren't sure where the concentration camps were, and on how grandeur of a scale it was happening.

if you've read anne frank's diary, you know people were aware people were being captured and taken somewhere, but they weren't sure where since no one had come back to tell them. they just knew it was bad.

exactly what I was going to say. I think that the holocaust was real and those numbers are not extreme. Look at all the countries the Nazis went to and picked out Jews and other "non-Aryan" people. They'd reached nearly the entire continent of Europe by the time they were stopped. I think the reaction was a little delayed. Everyone should have acted a lot faster, but hey, who knows if anyone actually knew. That would be hard to believe at the time. Can you imagine someone telling you something like that if it'd never happened before? Would you believe it?

we didnt really know what was going over there. The German citizens knew something was up, but everyone didn't know what was happening exactly (although alot of them chose not to investigate)

I went back and read... and yes! that was kind of funny. you always do good though, however, you were exceptionally patient this time.

now i believe that it's minda.

anyway, what proof do these people have to support the belief that the holocaust was a hoax? edit: i should probably the whole thread, shouldn't i.

i belive that the holocaust was real.
Actually, i'm doing an essay for SS right now, on how some people that don't belive it was true. For example, here's a person who doesn't believe it happened: http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/Carto-nine-reasons.html
There are some insteresting arguements, and you could almost say, well, all i know about the holocaust is what they've taught me at school, so for all i know, it could be fake. But then you remember that how in the world could it not be real? So many people died! And what about the survivors? Its not like some governments got together and payed a whole bunch of people to pretend it happened. Anyhoo, i would like some thoughts of other people and some more places i could go to find some people who didn't believe it happened for my essay.

of course it happened