Full Version: wats u top 10 best rapper?
i dnt think i kno 10 rapperz in da first place
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 15 2004, 4:58 PM)
once again, another mainstream listeners view.... there's over 20 underground MC's that are skilled enough to annihilate 80% of the mainstream industry... they're better battle rappers, better deliveries, better lyrically, better concepts, more conscious, and more....
Vakill, Juice, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Crooked I, JR Writer, Copywrite, Cage, Esoteric, Immortal Technique, Illogic, Benefit, and dozens more.....
but they're not famous.... doesn't mean they're not established..... they're all still basically makin' doctor money... did you know that people like that perform at shows for 30-40 minute sets and can make 5 grand? say a family doctor makes 200 G's a year... well that's 1/40 of what a doctor makes in a year in 30-40 minutes... c'mon....
and stop criticizing other people's opinions? first of all, I can criticize whatever I want however I want.... and I'm not being cocky, it's truth - I study hip hop... just like you probably know a lot more about other aspects of life than me, I know more about hip hop than (PROBABLY) everyone at this board considering I study it and live it.... and you asked what makes me so qualified and I told you... I wasn't throwin' it around all cocky like I'm the man... first I brought knowledgable arguments and facts to the table against ya'll opinions. I have every right to do that.... I didn't bring it up until you asked what makes me so qualified... I told'chu... and you don't need to give a sh*t.... whether or not you give a sh*t does not make such an enormous impact on my life..... I'm good whether you like me, hate me, wanna kill me, or say I'ma complete idiot... does not make a difference
as I said, I'm bringin' facts... ya'll bringin' opinions... keep runnin' with that... you don't get far in arguments doin' that but iss all good...
PayCe ~1~
Vakill, Juice, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Crooked I, JR Writer, Copywrite, Cage, Esoteric, Immortal Technique, Illogic, Benefit, and dozens more.....
but they're not famous.... doesn't mean they're not established..... they're all still basically makin' doctor money... did you know that people like that perform at shows for 30-40 minute sets and can make 5 grand? say a family doctor makes 200 G's a year... well that's 1/40 of what a doctor makes in a year in 30-40 minutes... c'mon....
and stop criticizing other people's opinions? first of all, I can criticize whatever I want however I want.... and I'm not being cocky, it's truth - I study hip hop... just like you probably know a lot more about other aspects of life than me, I know more about hip hop than (PROBABLY) everyone at this board considering I study it and live it.... and you asked what makes me so qualified and I told you... I wasn't throwin' it around all cocky like I'm the man... first I brought knowledgable arguments and facts to the table against ya'll opinions. I have every right to do that.... I didn't bring it up until you asked what makes me so qualified... I told'chu... and you don't need to give a sh*t.... whether or not you give a sh*t does not make such an enormous impact on my life..... I'm good whether you like me, hate me, wanna kill me, or say I'ma complete idiot... does not make a difference
as I said, I'm bringin' facts... ya'll bringin' opinions... keep runnin' with that... you don't get far in arguments doin' that but iss all good...
PayCe ~1~
haha...u crack me up =) obviously it does make some sort of an impact on u for u to be arguing with me for this long and to be writing like whole page responses. (and for visiting my xanga like 5 times yesterday) haha, it's all good, it's not that i don't like u, hate u, wanna kill u, or think ur a complete idiot...i don't even know u...i just don't like how u keep trying to tell other ppl their top ten is wrong when that's their opinions. this isn't a lyricist forum...do u get what i'm saying? cuz i don't think u do.
Seriously, you can't tell people that they're wrong if it's their opinion. It doesn't matter how much you've been in the hip hop game or whatever of if you're already a so-called MC, it doesn't mean that everything you're stating and what we're stating is fact over opinion.
And for the record, I say that 2Pac is the greatest rapper because he represented the streets and the struggle to the fullest. Everyone could feel his pain, his struggle, his anger, his love. Pac's lyrics were emotional and deep and issue-oriented. Pac is the embodiment of rap, he represents the attitude and struggle of rap and its peoples and thats what makes him overall the greatest rapper of all time.
And for the record, I say that 2Pac is the greatest rapper because he represented the streets and the struggle to the fullest. Everyone could feel his pain, his struggle, his anger, his love. Pac's lyrics were emotional and deep and issue-oriented. Pac is the embodiment of rap, he represents the attitude and struggle of rap and its peoples and thats what makes him overall the greatest rapper of all time.
They're not in order. Just my favorite 8 rappers:
Tupac
Eminem
P. Diddy
Kanye West
Twista
50 Cent
Jay-Z
Nelly
Tupac
Eminem
P. Diddy
Kanye West
Twista
50 Cent
Jay-Z
Nelly
QUOTE
oh god, you have no idea what you're talkin' about.... Rakim's the only one that deserves to be on that list.... you say Em's doesn't deserve to be in there... ummm, aright, TIMEOUT... he's about to pass Pac as the alltime album seller in the history of hip hop... he has the record for most records sold in the first week by a SOLO ARTIST.... he's got an album that almost went diamond....
that's just the mainstream success part of it.... lyrically, he's a mastermind... RAKIM is not touchin' him lyrically.... Rakim is sick but he's not Em.... he doesn't have the syllable rhyming down as well as Em, didn't do the punchlines as nice as Em, didn't even have the delivery down like Em does now... c'mon man, and RUN DMC?!?!?!? they're not even great rappers... they're great MC's YES because MC stands for "move the crowd"/"microphone controller" BUT you need the total package to be an MC... lyrically, none of 'em were that nice.... you know how basic their rhyme structure is? c'mon man, you don't even know what you talkin' about and actin' like you all ahead of someone.... even Fab would rip everyone on ya list honestly.... you haven't heard Fab spit on the real level.... listen to Breathe - his newest song that's just ridiciulous.... listen to his mixtape sh*t and you'll be amazed... you're probably stuck in the mainstream world where he releases the club/songs for girls/my car is better than your's type ish...... but you wrong 'bout him... at the top of his game, he's one of the elite...... wordplay, punchlines are CRAZY.... his syllable rhyming one of the best
as I said, Rakim's the ONLY one that deserves to be in any list.... Kool G Rap (old school if you wanna go that way) will murder everyone on that list EXCEPT Rakim.... I hope you know who that is.... you do right?
that's just the mainstream success part of it.... lyrically, he's a mastermind... RAKIM is not touchin' him lyrically.... Rakim is sick but he's not Em.... he doesn't have the syllable rhyming down as well as Em, didn't do the punchlines as nice as Em, didn't even have the delivery down like Em does now... c'mon man, and RUN DMC?!?!?!? they're not even great rappers... they're great MC's YES because MC stands for "move the crowd"/"microphone controller" BUT you need the total package to be an MC... lyrically, none of 'em were that nice.... you know how basic their rhyme structure is? c'mon man, you don't even know what you talkin' about and actin' like you all ahead of someone.... even Fab would rip everyone on ya list honestly.... you haven't heard Fab spit on the real level.... listen to Breathe - his newest song that's just ridiciulous.... listen to his mixtape sh*t and you'll be amazed... you're probably stuck in the mainstream world where he releases the club/songs for girls/my car is better than your's type ish...... but you wrong 'bout him... at the top of his game, he's one of the elite...... wordplay, punchlines are CRAZY.... his syllable rhyming one of the best
as I said, Rakim's the ONLY one that deserves to be in any list.... Kool G Rap (old school if you wanna go that way) will murder everyone on that list EXCEPT Rakim.... I hope you know who that is.... you do right?
First of all it says YOUR top 10. Not Pen's only.
Second of all don't correct my opinion.
Oh yeah Jesus has nothing to do with this *points at first sentence*
Thank you.
QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 16 2004, 7:33 AM)
haha...u crack me up =) obviously it does make some sort of an impact on u for u to be arguing with me for this long and to be writing like whole page responses. (and for visiting my xanga like 5 times yesterday) haha, it's all good, it's not that i don't like u, hate u, wanna kill u, or think ur a complete idiot...i don't even know u...i just don't like how u keep trying to tell other ppl their top ten is wrong when that's their opinions. this isn't a lyricist forum...do u get what i'm saying? cuz i don't think u do.
first of all, the reason I checked your xanga was because I was in the Hottest Girl on createBlog thread and I said, according to your avatar (if that's you but I dunno) that you had a pretty face.... I didn't wanna look retarded so I was lookin' to see if you had a picture to verify that was you and plus you can't even see ya whole face
ummm.... and I said I don't care what you THINK ABOUT ME.... the raps I'ma correct you on... I'm not arguin' wit'chu because what you said about me... and regardless, lyricism has everything to do with a rapper so it doesn't matter whether or not this isn't a lyricism forum... the best rapper thread could basically be considered the best lyricist because that's one of the essential aspects of it....
but, ehhh... it's obvious you're a clear mainstream head
QUOTE
eriously, you can't tell people that they're wrong if it's their opinion. It doesn't matter how much you've been in the hip hop game or whatever of if you're already a so-called MC, it doesn't mean that everything you're stating and what we're stating is fact over opinion.
And for the record, I say that 2Pac is the greatest rapper because he represented the streets and the struggle to the fullest. Everyone could feel his pain, his struggle, his anger, his love. Pac's lyrics were emotional and deep and issue-oriented. Pac is the embodiment of rap, he represents the attitude and struggle of rap and its peoples and thats what makes him overall the greatest rapper of all time.
And for the record, I say that 2Pac is the greatest rapper because he represented the streets and the struggle to the fullest. Everyone could feel his pain, his struggle, his anger, his love. Pac's lyrics were emotional and deep and issue-oriented. Pac is the embodiment of rap, he represents the attitude and struggle of rap and its peoples and thats what makes him overall the greatest rapper of all time.
as for that, yes it is fact over opinion. If one guy clearly spits multisyllabic rhymes and the other cat don't and still can come clearly with some sick sh*t than he's better.... if one guys rappin' basic schemes, A/A/A/A type bar structure, and the other du' is mixing aba/aab/aba/aab in the rhyme structure, he's better
and f**k 2Pac bein' the greatest..... he's the greatest rapper because he represented the streets and the struggle?!?!?! SO DID MALCOLM X... DOES THAT MAKE 'EM THE GREATEST RAPPER?!!?!? There's something more technical than talking about the streets.... Talib Kweli is better at talking about the streets (as a lyricist) as is Common (have you even listened to Common - one of the greatest ever) and Mos Def and more.... you act like Pac's the only one that did this... and there's guys that are lyrically far advanced from Pac and STILL do this.... you don't even know what the greatest rapper/MC of all time is if that's your reasoning
QUOTE
First of all it says YOUR top 10. Not Pen's only.
Second of all don't correct my opinion.
Oh yeah Jesus has nothing to do with this *points at first sentence*
Thank you.
Second of all don't correct my opinion.
Oh yeah Jesus has nothing to do with this *points at first sentence*
Thank you.
ummm, actually, I can correct whatever,whoever,and however I feel...
Dass muh word
PayCe ~1~
aite no point in continuing to argue. it's not entertaining for me anymore =/ haha...and yes that is me in the avatar and thanks for voting for me for the hottest girl thread.
2pac
big pun
jay-z
t.i.
ludacris
nas
twista
raekwon
lil kim
eminem
*an play-n-skllz
...
*an fabolous
...
*an lil flip...ok im dun
big pun
jay-z
t.i.
ludacris
nas
twista
raekwon
lil kim
eminem
*an play-n-skllz
...
*an fabolous
...
*an lil flip...ok im dun
^^^ nobody's gettin' the point
ah give up!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!! anyway, no prob for the vote... you are pretty so I ain't gon' front
PayCe ~1~
ah give up!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!! anyway, no prob for the vote... you are pretty so I ain't gon' front
PayCe ~1~
well...some rap is OK...i like D-12 and kanye west. other than that....rap is just...BLAH 
bone thugs and harmony
wu tang clan
ez e
run dmc (1st rap group to ever be on mtv)
NwA
thats about it
wu tang clan
ez e
run dmc (1st rap group to ever be on mtv)
NwA
thats about it
kanye is # 1 to me... im not sure about the rest ..lol
if you people don't like rap, then why did you post?
Stop getting on people for THEIR OPINION. Who cares what you think about their opinion, they certaintly don't so stop trying to down them. LEt them do what they do.
i have no particular order these are just the rappers i like: Kayne West, Twista, Tupac, eightball(only cuz i can get crunk to their beats), eminem, Andre 3000, elephant man & Spragga Benz(more of reggae),Nas, ying yang twins,lil jon(his beats....ohhh soo good),missy and local groups like crime mob,intoxicated, and franchize
Stop getting on people for THEIR OPINION. Who cares what you think about their opinion, they certaintly don't so stop trying to down them. LEt them do what they do.
i have no particular order these are just the rappers i like: Kayne West, Twista, Tupac, eightball(only cuz i can get crunk to their beats), eminem, Andre 3000, elephant man & Spragga Benz(more of reggae),Nas, ying yang twins,lil jon(his beats....ohhh soo good),missy and local groups like crime mob,intoxicated, and franchize
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 20 2004, 1:07 PM)
if you people don't like rap, then why did you post?
Stop getting on people for THEIR OPINION. Who cares what you think about their opinion, they certaintly don't so stop trying to down them. LEt them do what they do.
i have no particular order these are just the rappers i like: Kayne West, Twista, Tupac, eightball(only cuz i can get crunk to their beats), eminem, Andre 3000, elephant man & Spragga Benz(more of reggae),Nas, ying yang twins,lil jon(his beats....ohhh soo good),missy and local groups like crime mob,intoxicated, and franchize
Stop getting on people for THEIR OPINION. Who cares what you think about their opinion, they certaintly don't so stop trying to down them. LEt them do what they do.
i have no particular order these are just the rappers i like: Kayne West, Twista, Tupac, eightball(only cuz i can get crunk to their beats), eminem, Andre 3000, elephant man & Spragga Benz(more of reggae),Nas, ying yang twins,lil jon(his beats....ohhh soo good),missy and local groups like crime mob,intoxicated, and franchize
LMAO.....
I have a right to get on anyone for anything I want... get off muh nuts..
dass (1)... (2), it's not what I think about their opinion: it's what I KNOW... large difference....
ummm.... I'm not even gonna argue with you when you got rappers lik Missy on your list... Elephant Man ain't even a rapper and the Ying Yang Twins are garbage... as I said, get off muh nuts
I'll do what I do, how I do it whether you like it or not...
PayCe ~1~
okay...hypocrisy...
okay, it's hypocrisy how? LoL
cuz I'm tellin' you ta get off muh nuts? difference is, when I critique someone else's opinion, I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT.... HIP HOP'S MY LIFE....
ahhh, I ain't arguin' wit'chu... say what'chu want... PayCe ~1~
cuz I'm tellin' you ta get off muh nuts? difference is, when I critique someone else's opinion, I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT.... HIP HOP'S MY LIFE....
ahhh, I ain't arguin' wit'chu... say what'chu want... PayCe ~1~
it is not healthy for an object to be your "life"
itn is hyprocrisy when you tell me to get off you nuts(eventhough i never said anything to be on em) and then be on someone's else nuts.
Music and what is good is up to the listener. You don't KNOW anything, you are just getting mad that their opinion is different then yours. You can't get on someone for their opinion because frankly itsn't gonna change what they think
itn is hyprocrisy when you tell me to get off you nuts(eventhough i never said anything to be on em) and then be on someone's else nuts.
Music and what is good is up to the listener. You don't KNOW anything, you are just getting mad that their opinion is different then yours. You can't get on someone for their opinion because frankly itsn't gonna change what they think
okay, believe it's not healthy... think or say what'chu wanna
and you got on muh nuts when you were sayin'
so I'm sayin' get off 'em.... I'm not on anyone's nuts... I bring FACTS... somethin' you and many others do not bring...
AND I KNOW a ton about hip hop and I'm not mad because opinions are different from mine... it would be different if their opinions were based on logic and knowledge of lyricism/MCing which you seem to know very little about... I study all the lyrical aspects of an MC considering I am one and one that's been deemed incredibly sick by a label exec and is workin' to get signed...
and as I said, I'm not fighting opinion with opinion... I'm fighting opinion with fact... I win
sorry, you don't know half the shit I know 'bout MCing so you can keep talkin' 'n lookin' ignorant but try to bring some knowledge before you try to talk "intelligently" on the concept of being an MC....
I wonder if you even know what the four elements of hip hop are off the top of your head without goin' 'n lookin' for it online - and what's the subcultures that breaks down beneath it... c'mon du'... jus' get off the nuts... back away
PayCe ~1~
and you got on muh nuts when you were sayin'
QUOTE
Stop getting on people for THEIR OPINION. Who cares what you think about their opinion, they certaintly don't so stop trying to down them. LEt them do what they do.
so I'm sayin' get off 'em.... I'm not on anyone's nuts... I bring FACTS... somethin' you and many others do not bring...
AND I KNOW a ton about hip hop and I'm not mad because opinions are different from mine... it would be different if their opinions were based on logic and knowledge of lyricism/MCing which you seem to know very little about... I study all the lyrical aspects of an MC considering I am one and one that's been deemed incredibly sick by a label exec and is workin' to get signed...
and as I said, I'm not fighting opinion with opinion... I'm fighting opinion with fact... I win
sorry, you don't know half the shit I know 'bout MCing so you can keep talkin' 'n lookin' ignorant but try to bring some knowledge before you try to talk "intelligently" on the concept of being an MC....
I wonder if you even know what the four elements of hip hop are off the top of your head without goin' 'n lookin' for it online - and what's the subcultures that breaks down beneath it... c'mon du'... jus' get off the nuts... back away
PayCe ~1~
here's some advice, don't argue with pentheinstument...he never gives up, even when he says so. haha...it gets boring anyways =)
LoL... I can't stand ignorance or ignorant comments, at least
and I didn't start this one... he definitely brought up the comment of stop blah blah blah blah blah towards me.... LMAO
funny thing is, once again, he doesn't know half as much 'bout MCing as me and then claims to know I don't KNOW ANYTHING.... ahhh...
funny people........
if he can come up with factual, strong, solid evidence or even reasonable MC's than I wouldn't even care... persay an Immortal Technique... BUT, he's bringin' up Missy and then tryn' say I don't KNOW anything... LMAO
du' needs a 'lil schooling
and I didn't start this one... he definitely brought up the comment of stop blah blah blah blah blah towards me.... LMAO
funny thing is, once again, he doesn't know half as much 'bout MCing as me and then claims to know I don't KNOW ANYTHING.... ahhh...
funny people........
if he can come up with factual, strong, solid evidence or even reasonable MC's than I wouldn't even care... persay an Immortal Technique... BUT, he's bringin' up Missy and then tryn' say I don't KNOW anything... LMAO
du' needs a 'lil schooling
haha...see? what did i tell u? he never stops...
you're very frustrating... nagger!!! 
and going...and going...hahaha =) ok i'll stop. btw make sure u join my club! car club =)
I hope you mean it when you say you'll stop more than I mean it when I say I'm gonna stop... this is my passion... it's like politics for some people or car stuff for you
if someone says somethin' ignorant, I feel like they NEED to be informed... LoL
iss all love to everyone I so-called "argue" with
PayCe ~1~
if someone says somethin' ignorant, I feel like they NEED to be informed... LoL
iss all love to everyone I so-called "argue" with
PayCe ~1~
No real order
1. KRS-One
2. Wu-Tang Clan
3. Canibus
4. Big L
5. Jay-Z (Reasonable Doubt)
6. Slug
7. Rakim
8. A Tribe Called Quest
9. Louis Logic
10. Jedi Mind Tricks
1. KRS-One
2. Wu-Tang Clan
3. Canibus
4. Big L
5. Jay-Z (Reasonable Doubt)
6. Slug
7. Rakim
8. A Tribe Called Quest
9. Louis Logic
10. Jedi Mind Tricks
QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 20 2004, 5:00 PM)
No real order
1. KRS-One
2. Wu-Tang Clan
3. Canibus
4. Big L
5. Jay-Z (Reasonable Doubt)
6. Slug
7. Rakim
8. A Tribe Called Quest
9. Louis Logic
10. Jedi Mind Tricks
1. KRS-One
2. Wu-Tang Clan
3. Canibus
4. Big L
5. Jay-Z (Reasonable Doubt)
6. Slug
7. Rakim
8. A Tribe Called Quest
9. Louis Logic
10. Jedi Mind Tricks
see, dass more respectable though I don't agree with it.... still more respectable than havin' Nelly or Ying Yang Twins or some weak ass MC
oneandonly is a she... not a he. And sheesh, quit arguing. Let people state their opinions freely. This is not a debate forum.
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 5:02 PM)
see, dass more respectable though I don't agree with it.... still more respectable than havin' Nelly or Ying Yang Twins or some weak ass MC
We could really go on forever.
1. Chuck D
2. Aesop Rock
3. Baha
4. Pharcyde (first 2 albums)
5. Big Proof
6. Eyedea
7. Run-DMC
8. Deltron 3030
9. Black Thought
10. Krumbz
11. Royce
12. Pharoahe Monch
13. Non Phixion
14. Mad Skillz
15. Jurassic 5
16. Dead Prez
17. D.O.C.
18. Gangstarr
19. MC Hush
20. Nas
21. Bahamadia
22. Let's go international, Francis Magalona
23. MC Lyte
24. Lauryn Hill
25. Busta Rhymes
232067. me
235808. Nelly
QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 20 2004, 5:25 PM)
We could really go on forever.
1. Chuck D
2. Aesop Rock
3. Baha
4. Pharcyde (first 2 albums)
5. Big Proof
6. Eyedea
7. Run-DMC
8. Deltron 3030
9. Black Thought
10. Krumbz
11. Royce
12. Pharoahe Monch
13. Non Phixion
14. Mad Skillz
15. Jurassic 5
16. Dead Prez
17. D.O.C.
18. Gangstarr
19. MC Hush
20. Nas
21. Bahamadia
22. Let's go international, Francis Magalona
23. MC Lyte
24. Lauryn Hill
25. Busta Rhymes
232067. me
235808. Nelly
1. Chuck D
2. Aesop Rock
3. Baha
4. Pharcyde (first 2 albums)
5. Big Proof
6. Eyedea
7. Run-DMC
8. Deltron 3030
9. Black Thought
10. Krumbz
11. Royce
12. Pharoahe Monch
13. Non Phixion
14. Mad Skillz
15. Jurassic 5
16. Dead Prez
17. D.O.C.
18. Gangstarr
19. MC Hush
20. Nas
21. Bahamadia
22. Let's go international, Francis Magalona
23. MC Lyte
24. Lauryn Hill
25. Busta Rhymes
232067. me
235808. Nelly
Proof, Eyedea, DAMN (KRUMBZ) - whoa, then I'd be right up there.... I feel I'm doper than Krumbz... I'm sick... but ahhh... no point of arguin, you'll peep it when the album drops
well anyway:
Proof, Eyedea, Krumbz, Black Thought, not Gangstarr cuz dass a group - you mean Guru (Premo's the producer), and some others are quality MC's but I don't think up in the top ten
Royce and Pharoahe are top 6 IMO
but ahhh.... forget it... I still like your list the best outta anyone who really dropped
but don't forget Rakim and Kool G Rap and Talib Kweli and Mos Def.... four essentials
Ras Kass probably deserves to be there too... I'ma be there in a few years... I just don't have enough on wax to say this yet but you'll see
Mine go like dis
1. Big Pun
2.Eminem
3. Fat joe
4. Cassidy
5. Mase
6. D12
7.Kanye west
8.Lloyd Banks
9.Twista
10.Ludacris
1. Big Pun
2.Eminem
3. Fat joe
4. Cassidy
5. Mase
6. D12
7.Kanye west
8.Lloyd Banks
9.Twista
10.Ludacris
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 5:29 PM)
Proof, Eyedea, DAMN (KRUMBZ) - whoa, then I'd be right up there.... I feel I'm doper than Krumbz... I'm sick... but ahhh... no point of arguin, you'll peep it when the album drops
well anyway:
Proof, Eyedea, Krumbz, Black Thought, not Gangstarr cuz dass a group - you mean Guru (Premo's the producer), and some others are quality MC's but I don't think up in the top ten
Royce and Pharoahe are top 6 IMO
but ahhh.... forget it... I still like your list the best outta anyone who really dropped
but don't forget Rakim and Kool G Rap and Talib Kweli and Mos Def.... four essentials
Ras Kass probably deserves to be there too... I'ma be there in a few years... I just don't have enough on wax to say this yet but you'll see
well anyway:
Proof, Eyedea, Krumbz, Black Thought, not Gangstarr cuz dass a group - you mean Guru (Premo's the producer), and some others are quality MC's but I don't think up in the top ten
Royce and Pharoahe are top 6 IMO
but ahhh.... forget it... I still like your list the best outta anyone who really dropped
but don't forget Rakim and Kool G Rap and Talib Kweli and Mos Def.... four essentials
Ras Kass probably deserves to be there too... I'ma be there in a few years... I just don't have enough on wax to say this yet but you'll see
man look at chu. all G-up n' everything. mr. i know rap. rap isnt a talent, i mean anyone can scale their voice lower and stop annunciating and make up stuff that rhymes. and you takl about rap like youre from another planet, no one gives who you think is bad or not. jeezes ppl like you make me sick. take that bandana off, wait no, keep it on i dont wanna see whats on your head. crazy glue that crap onto your head man.
QUOTE(PunknAzN @ Jul 20 2004, 6:46 PM)
man look at chu. all G-up n' everything. mr. i know rap. rap isnt a talent, i mean anyone can scale their voice lower and stop annunciating and make up stuff that rhymes. and you takl about rap like youre from another planet, no one gives who you think is bad or not. jeezes ppl like you make me sick. take that bandana off, wait no, keep it on i dont wanna see whats on your head. crazy glue that crap onto your head man.
I hope you sick to death... literally
and rap's EASY!?!??! c'mon Mr. MC... write 16 bars... make it work with a beat... post the verse right here...we'll see how ass it is... you probably will struggle with 3 syllable rhyming... you'll go one syllable all basic like cat, bat, hat, gat, trap, cap, lap, attack, crap, plaque 'n shit like that... what WACK MC's spit is easy to do but you still couldn't even do that...
and you're hilarious... "crazy glue it to your head..." OH MY GOD!!! *Crackin' up hysterically*
shiss funny... damn
*ROLLIN' ON GROUND*
you just pushed Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock down a few knotches man... damn
so witty
*CAN'T BREATHE*
OHHH SHIT.... I can't bear this... I'm so offended
LMAO
f*ckin' loser.... as I said, drop 16 bars... MAKE IT NICE!!!
i dont listen to rap :\
I only have 5
1) Kanye west (cause he is hot lol)
2)Snoop Dawg (cause he is pimpin for shizzle o_O)
3)Twista (even if i don't understand half of what he says)
4)Luda (cause he is kinda of hot)
5)LiL Jon (cause of his pimp cup)
1) Kanye west (cause he is hot lol)
2)Snoop Dawg (cause he is pimpin for shizzle o_O)
3)Twista (even if i don't understand half of what he says)
4)Luda (cause he is kinda of hot)
5)LiL Jon (cause of his pimp cup)
1.Biggie
2.Tupac
3.Nas
4.Jay-z
5.Jadakiss
6.Eminem
7.Kanye West
-----Thats all.
2.Tupac
3.Nas
4.Jay-z
5.Jadakiss
6.Eminem
7.Kanye West
-----Thats all.
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 3:44 PM)
okay, believe it's not healthy... think or say what'chu wanna
and you got on muh nuts when you were sayin'
so I'm sayin' get off 'em.... I'm not on anyone's nuts... I bring FACTS... somethin' you and many others do not bring...
AND I KNOW a ton about hip hop and I'm not mad because opinions are different from mine... it would be different if their opinions were based on logic and knowledge of lyricism/MCing which you seem to know very little about... I study all the lyrical aspects of an MC considering I am one and one that's been deemed incredibly sick by a label exec and is workin' to get signed...
and as I said, I'm not fighting opinion with opinion... I'm fighting opinion with fact... I win
sorry, you don't know half the shit I know 'bout MCing so you can keep talkin' 'n lookin' ignorant but try to bring some knowledge before you try to talk "intelligently" on the concept of being an MC....
I wonder if you even know what the four elements of hip hop are off the top of your head without goin' 'n lookin' for it online - and what's the subcultures that breaks down beneath it... c'mon du'... jus' get off the nuts... back away
PayCe ~1~
and you got on muh nuts when you were sayin'
so I'm sayin' get off 'em.... I'm not on anyone's nuts... I bring FACTS... somethin' you and many others do not bring...
AND I KNOW a ton about hip hop and I'm not mad because opinions are different from mine... it would be different if their opinions were based on logic and knowledge of lyricism/MCing which you seem to know very little about... I study all the lyrical aspects of an MC considering I am one and one that's been deemed incredibly sick by a label exec and is workin' to get signed...
and as I said, I'm not fighting opinion with opinion... I'm fighting opinion with fact... I win
sorry, you don't know half the shit I know 'bout MCing so you can keep talkin' 'n lookin' ignorant but try to bring some knowledge before you try to talk "intelligently" on the concept of being an MC....
I wonder if you even know what the four elements of hip hop are off the top of your head without goin' 'n lookin' for it online - and what's the subcultures that breaks down beneath it... c'mon du'... jus' get off the nuts... back away
PayCe ~1~
First i saw you said nagger spell it how you wanna it is the same word and you have no reason saying, it ain't slang when you are not black. And please stop trying so hard to be hard and gangsta because i can tell you are trying.
Your opinion is fact and how would we know that? Are you certified in the rap game? i think the answer no is coming into mind on all of that questions. Also i don't believe anyone when they say they are in the business or close to getting in it when there is no evidence of it. Drop a beat that comes into play and maybe i'll believe you.
Also maybe you should check up on the dictionary under the word ignorant before you sit there and call people ignorant.
But this is not a debate forum and opinions with no hard facts cannot be a debate issue.
I'll stick by my favorite rappers
-jay z
-mos def
-talib kweli
-luda
-twista
-dmx
-jadakiss
-kanye
-jin
-i ono
-mos def
-talib kweli
-luda
-twista
-dmx
-jadakiss
-kanye
-jin
-i ono
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 21 2004, 5:01 PM)
First i saw you said nagger spell it how you wanna it is the same word and you have no reason saying, it ain't slang when you are not black. And please stop trying so hard to be hard and gangsta because i can tell you are trying.
Your opinion is fact and how would we know that? Are you certified in the rap game? Do you have a job mcing and dropping good rhymes and beat, i think the answer no is coming into mind on all of those questions.and
Also maybe you should check up on the dictionary under the word ignorant before you sit there and call me ignorant.
But this is not a debate forum and opinions with no hard facts cannot be a debate issue.
I'll stick by my favorite rappers
Your opinion is fact and how would we know that? Are you certified in the rap game? Do you have a job mcing and dropping good rhymes and beat, i think the answer no is coming into mind on all of those questions.and
Also maybe you should check up on the dictionary under the word ignorant before you sit there and call me ignorant.
But this is not a debate forum and opinions with no hard facts cannot be a debate issue.
I'll stick by my favorite rappers
what?!?!?! I said, nagger and that was toward H22Fanatik!!! as someone naggin' somebody!!! LMAO... I ain't racist... that's f**ked up!! and I know I ain't black, does that make a difference? and I'm tryna be hard 'n GANGSTA!?!!?!? you KNOW THIS HOW?!?!?! YOU KNOW ME? NOW YOU HAVE ME COMPLETELY PSYCHOLOGICALLY BROKEN DOWN RIGHT?!?!!? LMAO... YOU'RE NOT THAT WORD YOU T HOUGHT I SAID BUT YOU ARE A DUMBF**K....
and read the post several posts up... you'll see why I'm certified... especially much more certified than you.....
and c'mon now, do you even know what syllable rhyming is? honestly? I study this shit like for a living... I'ma MC that's gotten props from hundreds and hundreds of people... people that don't know me say I could easily take over the rap game 'n I'ma be the dopest punchline spitter in the game... c'mon, get off the nuts... you know nothing about me to say "I TRY TO BE GANGSTER"... LMAO
f**kin' loser... get a life and stop tryna act like you can psychologically break a person down by what he posts on a muh'f**kin' board.... I'm sure I'm more "certified at judging MC's" than you are at judging someone's character by reading a f**kin' post
you're officially a loser... get a life (once again I say it - stress it for you)
yup, checked up the word you wanted me to... LMAO... perfectly fits your dumba$$ comments
Eminem, all the boys of D12, Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, DMX, Royce, Nas, blehh, in no particular order, but eminem will always be number one *nods*
^^^ to close to below Em's waistline... hangin' offa it... DAMN...
hahaha...aww everyone is gaining up on pentheinstrument! yeah u need to take off the doo rag. haha =)
QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 21 2004, 6:25 PM)
yeah u need to take off the doo rag.
I'm sayin!
Come on, seriously dude. Calm down and get over yourself.
get over myself? LMAO, how am I on myself to begin with? don't be so pissed off cuz you can't admit you're WRONG
don't be so mad that ya'll really don't know what ya'll talkin' about cuz we all know that's the truth...
oh yeah, and for H2Fanatik, it ain't a doo rag... iss a bandanna... doo rags are to get waves... I don't got waves or intend to get 'em.... bandanna's are to hold your hair up... I have long hair.... don't always like to do it either cuz the gel makes me break out... so I only actually do my hair when I'm goin' to somewhere I actually have to look proper at.... soo uhhh... back off of muh nuts....
PayCe ~1~
don't be so mad that ya'll really don't know what ya'll talkin' about cuz we all know that's the truth...
oh yeah, and for H2Fanatik, it ain't a doo rag... iss a bandanna... doo rags are to get waves... I don't got waves or intend to get 'em.... bandanna's are to hold your hair up... I have long hair.... don't always like to do it either cuz the gel makes me break out... so I only actually do my hair when I'm goin' to somewhere I actually have to look proper at.... soo uhhh... back off of muh nuts....
PayCe ~1~
QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 21 2004, 7:25 PM)
get over myself? LMAO, how am I on myself to begin with?
don't be so mad that ya'll really don't know what ya'll talkin' about cuz we all know that's the truth...
PayCe ~1~
don't be so mad that ya'll really don't know what ya'll talkin' about cuz we all know that's the truth...
PayCe ~1~
It's a figure of speech, smart ass.
And is it really necessary for you to argue with everyone that posts in here. Nobody is right or wrong about who are the top 10 best rappers or whatever. These are just people's opinions... just like everything you've stated is your opinion... NOT FACT. People look for different qualitites in music, and just because one person likes things one way doesn't mean the next person will like things the same way.
QUOTE(xquizit @ Jul 21 2004, 7:28 PM)
It's a figure of speech, smart ass.
And is it really necessary for you to argue with everyone that posts in here. Nobody is right or wrong about who are the top 10 best rappers or whatever. These are just people's opinions... just like everything you've stated is your opinion... NOT FACT. People look for different qualitites in music, and just because one person likes things one way doesn't mean the next person will like things the same way.
And is it really necessary for you to argue with everyone that posts in here. Nobody is right or wrong about who are the top 10 best rappers or whatever. These are just people's opinions... just like everything you've stated is your opinion... NOT FACT. People look for different qualitites in music, and just because one person likes things one way doesn't mean the next person will like things the same way.
I know what get over yourself means... c'mon
and there is a wrong... someone saying 50 Cent's one of the top 10 best rappers is like sayin' a Toyota Camry is the best car..........
no, and not EVERYTHING I STATED IS OPINION... the FACTS ARE that half the rappers that I contested were rappers that rhyme simplistic, nonsense and babble with none of the technicalities down... for instance, syllable rhyming or good metaphors or any creativity or any message in the music or any GOOD punchlines or anything else...
even the person that said Lil Jon... c'mon, Lil Jon is NOT EVEN A RAPPER... HE'S A PRODUCER!!! does not rap...
on the real tip, you know nothing about lyricism and I'm bringin' FACTS (once again) about lyricism... proving my point.... I know 'bout complex bar structure... you probably don't know how to count bars... c'mon... seriously, get off me
and it's not about like, it's about the facts of bein' an MC (which you know very 'lil about obviously)... there's somethin' much more technical to rap (I say it again) than rhyming one syllable at the end of a bar or in between bars and sayin' nonsense/babble/not creative thoughts in them....
it's like havin' the nicest exterior to a car/house/person and the inside being useless/pitiful..........
you don't understand what's supposed to be under the exterior of a verse... you only probably listen to what it sounds like and a little of what they're saying so EVEN if you did listen to a great MC, you wouldn't even know WHY THEY'RE A GREAT MC....
Well, this wasn't open for debate. The person who posted this simply wanted to know who everyone thought were the top 10 best rappers. You really don't need to argue everyone's opinions. If you really feel the need to do so, why not create a topic about it in the debate forum instead of being unpleasant.
And while you're at it, how about post some of your music or lyrics up in the writing forums... see how much of a lyricist and MC you really are...
And while you're at it, how about post some of your music or lyrics up in the writing forums... see how much of a lyricist and MC you really are...
how about I'm not gettin' punchlines stolen from netcees... and how about cop my album when it's out... LMAO... j/k, not like you would... BUT....................... i'm not a netcee...
but you can tell your friends when I'm signed that you knew me from the board.... ummm.... or you don't have to... doesn't matter
dun' matter.... perceive me as you will.... I'ma keep doin' muh thing........
and I will continue to school people on MCing if they post ridiculous answers... later (Hate Me if You Want)
PayCe ~1~
but you can tell your friends when I'm signed that you knew me from the board.... ummm.... or you don't have to... doesn't matter
dun' matter.... perceive me as you will.... I'ma keep doin' muh thing........
and I will continue to school people on MCing if they post ridiculous answers... later (Hate Me if You Want)
PayCe ~1~
LUDA 
1. faboLous
2. twista
3. jay - z
4. j-kwon
5. kanye west
6. sn0op dogg
7. eminem
8. Ludacris
9. cassidy
10. fat joe
2. twista
3. jay - z
4. j-kwon
5. kanye west
6. sn0op dogg
7. eminem
8. Ludacris
9. cassidy
10. fat joe
LoL ... this topic is more entertaining than I thought it would be... I am almost afraid to say my list cuz people will be ready to hop on it and tear it apart as soon as i put it up... should we move this to the debate forum? 
hahaha. Actually, this topic has entertained me so I guess it should stay here... XP I'll just name a few peeps... XP Dre, Em, Snoop, and Luda
hahaha. Actually, this topic has entertained me so I guess it should stay here... XP I'll just name a few peeps... XP Dre, Em, Snoop, and Luda
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.