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drinksmokefuck
Dee closed my topic, sadface. I'm not asking of anything, literally. Ill stop using this account and use a new one. I just ask that you guys don't ban it, and its not like im spamming porn like the great ***********
butre
Come on admins, this is an action that takes literally two seconds. Do it for him.
mipadi
I honestly can't remember who the f*ck you are. See, that's the problem with using multiple accounts: I forget who you are, and then I don't really give a f*ck about you.
sixfive
kevin ric3xboy kingdinguhling boss myassislikewow or something, uhh... hmmm
superstitious
Thing is, not only should we not do this because we make everyone else wait to change their name, but we should be warning you for making duplicate accounts when you know it is against the rules to do. If Michael and Natalia disagree and want to do this, that's fine. I'm saying no though. Sorry man. I feel bad and all, but you've sort of exhausted our patience. lol
synapse
You guys gave sean a reset when his username was f*ck
DoubleJ
yeah but kevin has had like 8 usernames this year alone.
brooklyneast05
why do you have to change every other day. just keep one screen name, it's not even hard to do. and go set up comments on your profile mother f*cker.
mipadi
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 22 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Thing is, not only should we not do this because we make everyone else wait to change their name, but we should be warning you for making duplicate accounts when you know it is against the rules to do. If Michael and Natalia disagree and want to do this, that's fine. I'm saying no though. Sorry man. I feel bad and all, but you've sort of exhausted our patience. lol

Here's what I want to say:

"Okay, we'll do it, but don't make any new accounts or ask for a username change anytime soon again."

But here's what I know would happen in response:

8 minutes later... "Hey, I made a new account, can you close the old one and change my post count? kthxbai."

So I'm gonna go with Rebecca on this one.
DoubleJ
lmao kevito. What type of bullshit are you trying to pull on us eh?
sixfive
his ass is like wow no homo
DoubleJ
lmao all homo for you sh
manny-the-dino
Yeah I'm sorry Kevin but I'm going to have to go with Michael and Rebecca on this one. I'm not sure why you keep making new accounts. _unsure.gif Just stick to one. Six months isn't that long of a wait to change your username. Plus you want your OM title back, right? If you keep making accounts, you won't get it soon because a) you keep making multiple accounts and b) it's like you're starting over again. Sorry :/
drinksmokefuck
well i get bored of usernames, not my fault i get OCD with this kind of stuff, well it is, but i didn't think it was that big of a deal. another thing, javonn is right, i am actually planning something like i always do, it was me that posted all the porn(rofl) during the pokefest, it was me filling up the tutorial queue, i was the one that stole JCs condoms so he accidently knocked up a fat white girl, it was me who baptized michael when he was a kid so he never passes 5'3. steven, you were never taking E, it was methadone, your dealer is my lacky, rebs, im sorry i gave you crabs, and chances are, theres a good chance natalie is gonna meet A1bassline in person and have sexual intercourse
superstitious
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sixfive
QUOTE(drinksmokef*ck @ Jul 22 2009, 05:23 PM) *
i was the one that stole JCs condoms so he accidently knocked up a fat white girl

...

steven, you were never taking E, it was methadone, your dealer is my lacky


truth and lies in this post
manny-the-dino
LOL omg.
brooklyneast05
so much for bros before hoes
sixfive
he wanted it to feel better, bro.
drinksmokefuck
its ok, she aborted
karmakiller
Am I allowed to say that you're being a pain in the ass?

Yeah, it's not that hard to set an account as a dup, but if the admins have to do it every other week and for everyone who wants a new account it becomes a pain. There isn't any reason that someone can't stick to one account. You don't like your username? too bad. It's not like people around here look at your username and judge you (unless, of course, your username is "imstupid" or "republican4lyf"...)

I changed your username once because I didn't mind, and I had done that for a couple other people who asked. But you can't ask to have your usernamed changed all the time. One time deal.
Tomates
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mipadi
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sixfive
drinksmokefuck
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oh wait





QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jul 23 2009, 09:12 AM) *
"imstupid" or "republican4lyf"

lulz, wheres dosomethin88 or whatever that bitch's username is




btw i wasnt asking you to change my username, but just to not BAN every account i make, cmon, only james was cool enough to have every account banned upon activation


also you liar, i thought you stepped down for a better life
res8zenith
if the person is willing to trade one account to gain access to another which is currently banned, i say why not? what's the harm in that? they've changed enough,

and if CB Admins really wanted to BAN people, they'd make sure that person can't register for a new account, so there's no real point in banning people when they can just make more accounts.
karmakiller
^ The only way to make sure that they can't register for a new account is to ban the IP address a person is using. We don't do this for multiple reasons, but a simple example would be people who log on using a campus computer (there's a lot of college age people here). If we ban a shared IP then anyone using that IP can't access the site. And a lot of people who create duplicates are sneaky and don't use only one IP address. Besides creating duplicate accounts isn't reason enough to get banned from the site, which is why there are "Duplicate" member groups and "Banned" groups.

QUOTE(drinksmokef*ck @ Jul 22 2009, 11:16 PM) *
btw i wasnt asking you to change my username, but just to not BAN every account i make, cmon, only james was cool enough to have every account banned upon activation
also you liar, i thought you stepped down for a better life
Not going to nitpick about the banning. But why should you get special treatment and be allowed to have duplicate topics when other people can't, mister?

also, no lies, I did step down, but nobody seemed to be modding Feedback.
drinksmokefuck
well ive been here long enough, i figure i should get at least something others dont
sixfive
preferential treatment tbh
kryogenix
I still don't get what the problem is with dupe accounts.

I suppose if you are using dupe accounts abusively, like using them to vote multiple times in a poll or something, then it's bad. But if you just got bored with your name, or want to get a fresh start, why is the dupe banned on sight?
sixfive
Maybe they pose a threat to the new world order.
superstitious
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2009, 08:36 AM) *
I still don't get what the problem is with dupe accounts.

I suppose if you are using dupe accounts abusively, like using them to vote multiple times in a poll or something, then it's bad. But if you just got bored with your name, or want to get a fresh start, why is the dupe banned on sight?

Understood, but really, why can't people just wait to change their name. I mean, that is really what this (particular thread) is about. I'm pretty cool if someone completely f*cks up their name change and will change it to something else. But in this thread, we're talking about a dude has asks us to change his name several times and for him to make duplicate accounts because he wants another name change is sort of insulting, you know?

And duplicate accounts have been more problematic than not. The majority of the duplicate accounts I've seen here have been used to spam so I guess you can say that those who have done so are somewhat responsible for that rule.
drinksmokefuck
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 23 2009, 11:13 PM) *
But in this thread, we're talking about a dude has asks us to change his name several times and for him to make duplicate accounts because he wants another name change is sort of insulting, you know?

And duplicate accounts have been more problematic than not. The majority of the duplicate accounts I've seen here have been used to spam so I guess you can say that those who have done so are somewhat responsible for that rule.

No sorry Rebs, I dont see how it is insulting at all. I don't claim any mods to be incompetent or lazy. I make dupe accounts cause I dont want to pester mods with petty things. Its not like you don't IP check most new users anyway, as long as it matches up with mine, and usually its not hard to tell that its me. Btw, sorry about the gonorrhea too
butre
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2009, 08:36 AM) *
I still don't get what the problem is with dupe accounts.

I suppose if you are using dupe accounts abusively, like using them to vote multiple times in a poll or something, then it's bad. But if you just got bored with your name, or want to get a fresh start, why is the dupe banned on sight?

I don't get the problem either. I'll admit, I have several alts, but I never (read rarely) even have any reason to log in to one of them, let alone abuse them.
drinksmokefuck
They are afraid that if I get to make a shit load of accounts, then everyone else will. (kind of sounds like the republican's view of gay marriage), but if they IP trace an account and see its mine, I don't get what the problem would be.
sixfive
PETITION TO BAN KEVIN
kryogenix
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 23 2009, 11:13 AM) *
The majority of the duplicate accounts I've seen here have been used to spam so I guess you can say that those who have done so are somewhat responsible for that rule.


The majority of people in jail are black, so should we ban black people from this website?

Why not enforce no dupes on a case by case basis? If someone is abusing it, it's grounds for banning. You can ban without IP banning, can't you? What is the purpose of a separate dupe group (haha that rhymes)?
superstitious
QUOTE(serotonin @ Jul 23 2009, 07:02 PM) *
PETITION TO BAN KEVIN

Denied, even though he gave me gonorrhea. fallen.gif
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2009, 08:03 PM) *
Why not enforce no dupes on a case by case basis? If someone is abusing it, it's grounds for banning. You can ban without IP banning, can't you? What is the purpose of a separate dupe group (haha that rhymes)?

Hey, I'm up for discussion for just about anything and we can think about and discuss duplicate options but I have to tell you, I have yet to see a duplicate account that hasn't ended in spamming. I'd love to get additional opinions as well from community members and staff members.

butre
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2009, 08:03 PM) *
should we ban black people from this website?

Yes, no debate.
brooklyneast05
i don't think i particularly care either way. although i still don't get why screen names are such a huge deal and you can't sleep at night unless you have the one you want.

if people wanna discuss changing that rule i think it's a good thing to discuss. it wasn't a big deal until tung went through that phase of wanting to run around being a jackass, get suspended, make a new account and get back on here to continue being a jackass. i think that's when the rule was put in place because he was getting out of any punishment for his bashing and shit by just making a new account to have his warning level back at 0%
karmakiller
Admins will have to transfer warn level to the new accounts, so even if they don't have to put old usernames into the duplicate group, it's not like a person creates a new account and forgets about the old.
superstitious
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jul 23 2009, 09:19 PM) *
Admins will have to transfer warn level to the new accounts, so even if they don't have to put old usernames into the duplicate group, it's not like a person creates a new account and forgets about the old.

That is definitely something to consider. I'm sort of thinking of the PokeSpam Fest (and I know that it wasn't just one person). It would have been warnings x the amount of duplicate accounts, if that makes sense.

I don't know, like JC I'm personally neither here or there about duplicates at the present. I do see the disadvantages from a staff perspective more than I see the positive though, to be honest but obviously since I'm one who may have to do some of the clean up, I'm probably a bit biased, which is why I like the idea of a discussion.
karmakiller
I don't really know why this is being discussed, because it will always come back to staff asking WHY and members asking WHY NOT.
butre
Consider this:

Many successful forums (Facepunch Studios, SomethingAwful, etc.) allow alternate accounts.
hypnotique
QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 23 2009, 09:32 PM) *
Consider this:

Many successful forums (Facepunch Studios, SomethingAwful, etc.) allow alternate accounts.

Hmm those sites are also notoriously barbaric in conduct.

Actually, Many forums that I have seen DO NOT allow alternate accounts because its stupid to have people bounce from one account to another on a whim because they are "bored with that name for the week".

The point of joining a forum is to create a identity for yourself so to speak. People should be able to get to know you under one name for a while before one decides its time to change their name. That is the POINT in why there is 6 month bloody wait before you can change a name. Multiple accounts defeat the purpose of this.
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jul 23 2009, 09:37 PM) *
The point of joining a forum is to create a identity for yourself so to speak. People should be able to get to know you under one name for a while before one decides its time to change their name. That is the POINT in why there is 6 month bloody wait before you can change a name. Multiple accounts defeat the purpose of this.


who cares. awful reasoning that no one cares about. why should we force people to keep a name for the sake of other people "getting to know them". makes no sense to me.
karmakiller
QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 23 2009, 09:32 PM) *
Consider this:

Many successful forums (Facepunch Studios, SomethingAwful, etc.) allow alternate accounts.
Sorry, but just because other forums do it isn't reason enough for us to. That doesn't answer why people want this to happen.
superstitious
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jul 23 2009, 09:40 PM) *
Sorry, but just because other forums do it isn't reason enough for us to. That doesn't answer why people want this to happen.

Let's work with this one. How about an answer to why should duplicates be allowed, other than "why not?"
butre
QUOTE(hypnotique @ Jul 23 2009, 09:37 PM) *
Hmm those sites are also notoriously barbaric in conduct.

If you head to Facepunch's OIFY, or SomethingAwful's FYAD, then you're going to see some pretty barbaric stuff. We have our VIP lounge, which isn't quite the same, but is there for the same purpose.

Outside of OIFY, Facepunch has some of the strictest moderation of any forum out there. I've seen people get permabanned for too many misspellings in one post.
SomethingAwful's ten dollar registration fee keeps out morons.

And besides, even google thinks Facepunch is f*cking Incredible.
http://www.google.com/search?q=f*cking+incredible
synapse
My take on the duplicate accounts. Is that they're more trouble than their worth. It'd work if it was treated to a case-by-case basis. However, who has time to do that, if someone is making a new account each day. The majority, as Rebecca did point out was that the people that are using duplicate accounts are either to a) anonymously berate others, or b) spam anonymously.

I'm with Kevin about the username thing, I had mind changed, and changed it to something I liked at the time, and was over with a week later, though, I did wait for 6 months before I changed it to its current. For the user to be able to change their username when they want to by making another account should be fine, if the other account is disabled. It get's more troublesome to the admins, and it has glitches with the cb profiles when admins are changing people's usernames.

I'm kind of on the fence on this issue, because I've used duplicate accounts for both reasons, one to anonymously voice my opinions about the site in feedback. And also to spam anonymously. But if better moderation of these duplicate accounts are taken, such as someone requests to an admin before one is made, then the admin accepts the request, dupes the current account and lets the user use their dupe, I wouldn't see the problem. I don't feel the same way if you let one user have full rights on their 20 different accounts though. One at a time please.
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