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CO0KiE
So in my Psychology class I'm doing a project on Asian Stereotypes.
Where did these stereotypes begin?
Like:
1 Where did the sterotype of Asians being horrible drivers come from?
2 Where did the whole "Asians are excellent in math" come from?
3 All asians are smart?
etc etc etc.

& how could I, if it were possible, go back into the past & change these?
Help me out please?
BamBamBoogie
Im pretty sure this isn't the answer you're looking for, but I'll say it anyway. Most stereotypes, if not all of them, come from ignorance. Many people develop prejudices based on 1 encounter with a person or group of people, and claim whatever conflict that happens to be caused by every single person represented by that 1 person. Im not sure how long its been going on, probably since ancient times. But I think that if everyone gained some type of knowledge about asians and the many different countries that are in Asia like Japan, China, Russia, and even Iraq, there would be a fair less amount of stereotypes.
ArjunaCapulong
QUOTE(CO0KiE @ May 25 2009, 01:22 PM) *
1 Where did the sterotype of Asians being horrible drivers come from?
Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ May 25 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Im pretty sure this isn't the answer you're looking for, but I'll say it anyway. Most stereotypes, if not all of them, come from ignorance.


don't asian countries score really well in math in general? _unsure.gif i mean yeah i know it's a stereotype and not all asians are good at math. if asians DO test better in math though, then i don't see how the stereotype "comes from ignorance".


i was in a math club and this is what my group looked like

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i duno where the bad driving thing comes from. i've seen a lot of bad driving asians but i've seen a lot of bad driving other races too. it doesn't take much to piss me off when driving though so who knows.


all asians definitely aren't smart, this myth can be disregarded after about 10 minutes on cb.
ArjunaCapulong
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 25 2009, 02:01 PM) *
i was in a math club and this is what my group looked like

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all asians definitely aren't smart, this myth can be disregarded after about 10 minutes on cb.
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BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 25 2009, 02:01 PM) *
if asians DO test better in math though, then i don't see how the stereotype "comes from ignorance".


When I said it comes from ignorance, I meant ignorance on behalf of those dishing out the sterotypes/stereotypical beliefs. Most of us judge without actually knowing someone, thus leading to steereotypes. Ignorant = To not know.
Joanne
Stereotypes aren't all bad... they help people make quick generalizations and categorizations. Say there are zero stereotypes; your brain would be on overdrive trying to place everything in its right place simultaneously.

Anyway, I don't have any real idea of how these Asian stereotypes were formed, but I strongly believe that the self-fulfilling prophecy has a lot to do with spreading them. Non-Asians directly and indirectly push these beliefs onto the Asians (eg. treating them like they're math geniuses), and Asians gain meta-stereotypes (ie. beliefs regarding stereotype others hold about them), causing them to work towards that stereotype.

Y'know?
BamBamBoogie
Anyone know which country people are referring to when stating "Asians are smart"? Because Asia is a huge continent but people are normally referring to japanese and chinese citizens when I hear it. Imagine if they were referring to people like sudaam hussein, osama bin laden, etc.
ArjunaCapulong
I would consider that middle east


southeast asia = ghetto of asia
IamLegend
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ May 25 2009, 01:31 PM) *
Im pretty sure this isn't the answer you're looking for, but I'll say it anyway. Most stereotypes, if not all of them, come from ignorance. Many people develop prejudices based on 1 encounter with a person or group of people, and claim whatever conflict that happens to be caused by every single person represented by that 1 person. Im not sure how long its been going on, probably since ancient times. But I think that if everyone gained some type of knowledge about asians and the many different countries that are in Asia like Japan, China, Russia, and even Iraq, there would be a fair less amount of stereotypes.

Some stereotypes I think are true. Why you think Usain Bolt is the fastest man we've seen on a track field?
ArjunaCapulong
QUOTE(IamLegend @ May 25 2009, 06:16 PM) *
Some stereotypes I think are true. Why you think Usain Bolt is the fastest man we've seen on a track field?
'CAUSE THEY DON'T SHOW THE COP CARS BEHIND HIM ON CAMERA, HOLLAAAAAA
CLYDE
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ May 25 2009, 03:49 PM) *
'CAUSE THEY DON'T SHOW THE COP CARS BEHIND HIM ON CAMERA, HOLLAAAAAA

BAHAHA.

Just like there is always a bit of truth in every rumor there is always a bit of truth in every stereotype. I live in a Canadian city with 95% Asian population and let me tell you driving is NOT fun.
shrug.gif No offense or anything. I'm Asian.
kryogenix
QUOTE(CLYDE @ May 25 2009, 07:32 PM) *
BAHAHA.

Just like there is always a bit of truth in every rumor there is always a bit of truth in every stereotype. I live in a Canadian city with 95% Asian population and let me tell you driving is NOT fun.
shrug.gif No offense or anything. I'm Asian.


Nah, the drivers there aren't bad because they're Asian. They're bad because they're Canadian. Probably think they're driving a zamboni or something.
CLYDE
Ya last night Wayne Gretsky crashed into my igloo with his dogsled =/
Maccabee
What about the stereotype "all asians are hot/pretty/sexy."

I have seen some ugly asians.
ArjunaCapulong
QUOTE(jcp @ May 25 2009, 08:51 PM) *
What about the stereotype "all asians are hot/pretty/sexy."
LOL
reupONtrees
dog tastes good
The-Abominable-Cpillar
I dont like the chinese, they bomb our pearl harbor
Maccabee
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ May 25 2009, 07:53 PM) *
LOL

That was a joke. After I saw you I knew ugly asians existed.

hehe, jk. YOUZ IZ AZIAN!
ArjunaCapulong
you are so zany

QUOTE(reupONtrees @ May 25 2009, 08:56 PM) *
dog tastes good
squeakygirl
I think the all asians are smart came fromhow most chinese kids go thro a lot of schooling. also like it seems most electrical stuff coems from over there so i guess? maybe i dunno and i dont think you really could go back in time and change it. most stereotypes just happen over time not much you can do
Uronacid
QUOTE(CO0KiE @ May 25 2009, 01:22 PM) *
So in my Psychology class I'm doing a project on Asian Stereotypes.
Where did these stereotypes begin?
Like:
1 Where did the sterotype of Asians being horrible drivers come from?
2 Where did the whole "Asians are excellent in math" come from?
3 All asians are smart?
etc etc etc.

& how could I, if it were possible, go back into the past & change these?
Help me out please?


Let me start out by saying this only occurs in the US:

1. Because you often look at the driver that just cut you off and discover that they're Asian.
2. Because they often do well in Math.
3. Refer back to number 2.
doughnut
asians arent well, bad drivers. i live in asia, it cant be that bad, driving here isnt that bad (except for all the traffic jams in rush hours)
fameONE
QUOTE(doughnut @ May 26 2009, 11:45 AM) *
asians arent well, bad drivers. i live in asia, it cant be that bad, driving here isnt that bad (except for all the traffic jams in rush hours)

Okinawans, generally, are pretty bad drivers.
reupONtrees
thing is, you kinda have to be a bad driver in asia, think about how many cars + people there are. cutting someone off would be more viewed as smart than dickish
Gigi
Asians are stereotyped as being better at math because they are better at math, according to the test scores. That's not to say that all Asians are better than all non-Asians, but most of them are better.

If you want to know why Asians are statistically better at math than non-Asians, both in their native Asian countries and in other countries, then read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He makes a very compelling argument about how cultural differences can affect everything about a child's success.
reupONtrees
nurture
ArjunaCapulong
wish I was born in China so I could acquire some math skills y'all
Mikeplyts
What about the Asian stereotype of asians having small mouths? I, for one, believe that many asians actually possess this trait. laugh.gif
doughnut


nah.
hypnotique
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 25 2009, 01:01 PM) *
don't asian countries score really well in math in general? _unsure.gif i mean yeah i know it's a stereotype and not all asians are good at math. if asians DO test better in math though, then i don't see how the stereotype "comes from ignorance".
i was in a math club and this is what my group looked like

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all asians definitely aren't smart, this myth can be disregarded after about 10 minutes on cb.


LOL fact.

Mikeplyts
QUOTE(doughnut @ May 27 2009, 06:09 AM) *


oh.

How about that stereotype that relates to asian males?.... mellow.gif
trinityskyz
QUOTE(CO0KiE @ May 25 2009, 09:22 AM) *
So in my Psychology class I'm doing a project on Asian Stereotypes.
Where did these stereotypes begin?
Like:
1 Where did the sterotype of Asians being horrible drivers come from?
2 Where did the whole "Asians are excellent in math" come from?
3 All asians are smart?
etc etc etc.

& how could I, if it were possible, go back into the past & change these?
Help me out please?


2 & 3. No! i know some asinas thta arent that smart ( we dont try, its the lazyness!) Ya I can be smart i guess but then again doesnt this go for all races?? The other raaces are just lazy and dont try haard like the Asain stereotypes. LIke someone else, hes in 8th grade esl and he sleeps in class and hes chinese and another one in my class that copies off my friend. Asains dont have 2 be smart
Gigi
^ If I'm gonna go by Malcolm Gladwell (and I will), generally, Asians excel at math because of the cultural differences between Asians and non-Asians that determine work ethic. I won't go into the gory details, but Asian culture encourages constant practice and determination to follow through with a task - two things that are factors in math performance.

It's why math scores are the highest in places like South Korea and Hong Kong, and also why these countries go to school for longer stretches over the months (North America has 3+ months of breaks while Asian countries have significantly less), and why they go to school longer on a regular basis (10+ hours a day, 6 days a week).

So, I mean, I hate to say it, but the assertion that "other raaces are just lazy and dont try haard like the Asain stereotypes" is mostly true. It could be worded better because that's not to say that working hard and consistently is necessarily a good thing, and that non-Asians aren't good at other things, but the general idea is true.
reupONtrees
QUOTE(trinityskyz @ May 31 2009, 01:08 PM) *
2 & 3. No! i know some asinas thta arent that smart ( we dont try, its the lazyness!) Ya I can be smart i guess but then again doesnt this go for all races?? The other raaces are just lazy and dont try haard like the Asain stereotypes. LIke someone else, hes in 8th grade esl and he sleeps in class and hes chinese and another one in my class that copies off my friend. Asains dont have 2 be smart

stop living in a bubble
XDressedToKill
I'm not sure if it's just a stereotype anymore.
But the reason why lots and lots of Asians are good at maths is because Asian parents are more concerned about marks than other things -.- and us Asian kids were brought up to try to live up to their expectations.
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