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oBeBexImporto
believe man
SarahxJoy
I'm a protestant, so Jesus. huh.gif
DisneyPrincessKate
You can't have one without the other. Both Satan and Jesus are real. Satan was an angel who challenged God. God then banished him from the Kingdom. I'm assuming this is more a question of who do you worship? I worship God and Jesus.
skaterjswife2
i be jewish.
KnightOfChrono
I believe whatever The Bible tells me.
visualfusion
Everything in this world is in opposites, so that means... Satan is the opposite of God... and without God, there would be no Satan.... but then it leads to the question of, if there was no God, would there be suffering? (That is supposidly caused by Satan)
ComradeRed
"the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet" (Nahum 1:3).

Do you believe that clouds are god's footprints?
visualfusion
Do you believe the rain's God's tears?
onenonly101
ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil
joanna0304
i believe in jesus
princess2113
i believe in both, they both exist...i worship Jesus
ComradeRed
What about Allah? Allah feels left out...
AZN_DRAGON
i belive in jesus
EmeraldKnight
Gah.. not more religion... pinch.gif

Its going to be the same thing over and over again..

Then again, I dont see ppl debating.. so shouldnt this be in lounge or something?
Spirited Away
Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?
EmeraldKnight
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Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?

The Devil's advocate perhaps?

Haha I heve no idea what the heck I'm saying tongue.gif
Spirited Away
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 10:29 PM)
The Devil's advocate perhaps?

You mean... Keanu Reeves? laugh.gif tongue.gif
EmeraldKnight
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You mean... Keanu Reeves? 

Erm.. I'm a little slow....... _unsure.gif
CEP
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 9 2004, 8:38 PM)
Erm.. I'm a little slow.......  _unsure.gif

It's a movie.
Starring Keanu.
devil's advocate

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
EmeraldKnight
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It's a movie.
Starring Keanu.
devil's advocate

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Oh right.. I remember that.. just didnt recognize the name tongue.gif
kryogenix
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 9 2004, 8:41 PM)
ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil

yeah, same here. but i think she was asking who do you support?
angel-roh
oh so this topic is about who u support...the devil or the jesus...right james? um... hmm... weird...why on earth do we wana support the devil? i mean all he give us is pain, stress, anger, and sadness to our lives... he destroy everything in our lives.. why do we wana support the devil when he's making everything miserable? Jesus helps you, he heals ur pain, he makes u happy, he tries to be there by your side every day and night... of course I love Jesus. and of course I will worship him and my heavenly father til the end.
princess2113
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 9 2004, 10:26 PM)
Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?

well he exist so i believe in him as in i believe he exist...just like he believes Jesus exist...he just doesnt love Jesus...i DO NOT worship him or give him ANY praise or service
Spirited Away
QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 10 2004, 12:51 PM)
well he exist so i believe in him as in i believe he exist...just like he believes Jesus exist...he just doesnt love Jesus...i DO NOT worship him or give him ANY praise or service

I don't think you understand my question... Well, it was meant to be a rhetorical question...

I meant that who would believe in the Devil (and His evils) and would want to serve/worship such evil. Yah?
redsoxbaby87
i dont believe in the devil or jesus. i am a jew and i believe in G-d. i think that this is a very limiting question and i also think that it was very stupid to say:
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believe man

as the first post. it does not specify. it is also a very closeminded topic because it includes very few religions. you should open the spectrum more when you post.
QUOTE
um... hmm... weird...why on earth do we wana support the devil? i mean all he give us is pain, stress, anger, and sadness to our lives... he destroy everything in our lives.. why do we wana support the devil when he's making everything miserable?

what about people not from your religion. if i am not mistaken, this is not the christian forum and maybe people from other religions worship what you call the devil. they may worship him under a different name. you never know. to them he might bring the same things as you god brings to you.
xHalf nHalf
umm i believe in the exsistence of both but i follow and serve God
princess2113
QUOTE(redsoxbaby87 @ Jul 10 2004, 1:01 PM)
i dont believe in the devil or jesus. i am a jew and i believe in G-d. i think that this is a very limiting question and i also think that it was very stupid to say:

as the first post. it does not specify. it is also a very closeminded topic because it includes very few religions. you should open the spectrum more when you post.

what about people not from your religion. if i am not mistaken, this is not the christian forum and maybe people from other religions worship what you call the devil. they may worship him under a different name. you never know. to them he might bring the same things as you god brings to you.

um every Jewish person i know believes in Jesus and teh devil...they dunt believe Jesus is the Son of God thou, they believe He is a Great Prophet, i believe He is the Son of God...but as far as the devil goes, Jews believe in the Torah...which is the Old Testament of the Bible which clearly talks about the devil
the_overachiever
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 9 2004, 10:47 PM)
What about Allah? Allah feels left out...

whoaaa minda zheng, mindy zhang. that could get confusing. sorry, random note. yeah, i`m Christian.
melface
Proof, please. mellow.gif
princess2113
QUOTE(omg_melface @ Jul 10 2004, 7:31 PM)
Proof, please. mellow.gif

proof that He doesnt exist plz
melface
QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 10 2004, 6:33 PM)
proof that He doesnt exist plz

Yet, I need proof that he does... the things in the bible are sort of stretched... and I wasn't talking about just Jesus... I was just talking about proof, in general.

So I'm neutral
islandkiss
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 9 2004, 8:41 PM)
ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil

I worship jesus.
JlIaTMK
lol.... if u really know so much about ur religion then u wouldn't be asking this question right now.... happy.gif
the devil is an aspect of Christianity and so is god.... to believe in one means that u believe in the other....
JasonAkAWolf
yes I do cause I believe in the Yin-yang theory good can't exsit with out evil.
redsoxbaby87
QUOTE(KnightOfChrono @ Jul 9 2004, 7:07 PM)
I believe whatever The Bible tells me.

well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...
HiddenFaerie
I don't know if God is real, or if Jesus ever walked this earth. But I do know that their is a difference between good and evil. And that the way it's always been it's the way it'll stay. As constant as change in itself.
tofumonzter
I don't understand how's this suppose to be debate..
IIO__oII
i belive there IS a devil and Jesus.. i belive IN Jesus...

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well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...

haha.. well.. DOES the bible say that? NO. its just stupid to make up things.... stop saying "IF"
Spirited Away
QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jul 13 2004, 2:07 PM)
i belive there IS a devil and Jesus.. i belive IN Jesus...


haha.. well.. DOES the bible say that? NO. its just stupid to make up things.... stop saying "IF"

That's isn't really stupid...

He/she was right when he/she said that you should be able to think for yourself instead of what the Bible tells you... after all, God gave you "free will" right?
Sumiaki
QUOTE(redsoxbaby87 @ Jul 12 2004, 7:16 PM)
well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...

But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

As for answering this thread. I don't really know what i believe in. I was raised catholic but i don't know yet. I'm still questioning and finding out what i believe in.
redsoxbaby87
QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 13 2004, 3:54 PM)
But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

a) freedom of speech. if you are able to voice your opinion that why cant I?

b) i disagree with the torah in the fact that I dont believe that Jesus was a phrophet. I believe he was an ordinary man. I dont believe in jesus. i believe in G-d.
Sumiaki
QUOTE(redsoxbaby87 @ Jul 13 2004, 4:01 PM)
a) freedom of speech. if you are able to voice your opinion that why cant I?

b) i disagree with the torah in the fact that I dont believe that Jesus was a phrophet. I believe he was an ordinary man. I dont believe in jesus. i believe in G-d.

I didn't say you couldn't voice your opinion, i just said in my opinion it's wrong to say something is stupid because you don't believe in something that others do. In my opinion you could have used a better word than stupid. In my prior post i could have said something in your post was stupid, but i choose not to. Saying something is stupid can come out offensive especially about religion.
princess2113
QUOTE(Arimalka @ Jul 11 2004, 8:00 PM)
Just because you don't believe in Jesus doesn't mean you are eternally condemned to the other extreme.

-Sarah

ummmmm yeah it kinda does...unless ur Jewish
redsoxbaby87
QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 13 2004, 7:42 PM)
ummmmm yeah it kinda does...unless ur Jewish

what about islam or buddishm??!! other things like being a native american and worshiping native american gods????!!! what about wiccan??

G-d is merely a figure that watches over us. he has given us free will and tthe tools to do what we wish with our lives. He has given us commandments and religious texts, but those are only CHOICES that we are allowed to make. there are no such things as leading a good life or a bad life. there is merley lfie itself. and during your life you are allowed to do what ever you please. if you choose not to read religious texts it does not condem you to anything but yourself. you are allowed to choose in what you belive and people do so. G-d gives us things so that we have choices, he does not mean that we MUST do as he says. otherwise there would be no free will. there is no bigger picture. sure, all things have a reason, but that does not mean that G-d is involed. last time i checked i had a brain and i had reasons for doing what i do.
floofies
I don't believe in anything like this. I'm 100% Athiest
SkYlIneZx4xLiF
to b sincere i do believe in jesus, but the devil iono......the idead of an eternal burning hell kinda creeps me out.....nd if the priest is supposed to save ur sould before u die, who goes to hell then
HiddenFaerie
QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 13 2004, 4:54 PM)
But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

But most people haven't read the bible. I myself have read the whole thing, and I assure no where in it does Jesus say: 'Go jump offa cliff.' But what about the Gnostic Gospels, the parts that were edited out by Constantine?

The few that have survived are quite interesting. For instance, they make out Jesus as not some kind of Deity as the Holy Bible tends to do. But a normal man. One who married and had kids.
Rachel
QUOTE(skaterjswife2 @ Jul 9 2004, 4:26 PM)
i be jewish.

i am tooooo!!!


also you have to open this up NOT JUST WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN
thats not a debate...its just a faith question

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um every Jewish person i know believes in Jesus and teh devil...they dunt believe Jesus is the Son of God thou, they believe He is a Great Prophet, i believe He is the Son of God...but as far as the devil goes, Jews believe in the Torah...which is the Old Testament of the Bible which clearly talks about the devil


what the heck kinda jews are you talking to?!?!? The torah doesnt mention the devil, the BIBLE does! ours was first...not yours...its NOT the old testament to us, its the ONLY testament. the bible came after the torah and its completely different. please get it straight
CEP
QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Aug 6 2004, 12:46 AM)
i am tooooo!!!


also you have to open this up NOT JUST WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN
thats not a debate...its just a faith question



what the heck kinda jews are you talking to?!?!? The torah doesnt mention the devil, the BIBLE does! ours was first...not yours...its NOT the old testament to us, its the ONLY testament. the bible came after the torah and its completely different. please get it straight

For some reason, I was imagining you going in here and say, " Neither. "
*shrugs*

- Chinkieeyedpnoi
black_cloud10
as a christian, yes i believe in Jesus and Satan...

personally i think Jesus is alive
and i have sympathy for the devil
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