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dosomethin888
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30146878/

Hey Gays,

If they refuse to inseminate you, go to another clinic!
If they refuse to take pictures of you, go to another photographer!
If they refuse to counsel you, go to another counselor!

BOSS
wouldnt you be angry if someone refused to serve you because you were a female?
paperplane
QUOTE
A Christian student group was not recognized at a University of California law school because it denies membership to anyone practicing sex outside of traditional marriage.

yeeeahhhhh
fameONE
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Apr 10 2009, 04:47 AM) *
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30146878/

Hey Gays,

If they refuse to inseminate you, go to another clinic!
If they refuse to take pictures of you, go to another photographer!
If they refuse to counsel you, go to another counselor!

It's all about principle.
superstitious
But it's ok for the church to push their views on everyone else?

fameONE
QUOTE(superstitious @ Apr 10 2009, 10:14 AM) *
But it's ok for the church to push their views on everyone else?

That's my point. The church has long transcended the line of church and state. The church is the sub-establishment that acts as a government in its own right. The gay community is only returning the favor (no pun intended), because they have every right to be heard. I think that it is a little petty, because by pushing their beliefs on the church they're doing exactly what organized religion is doing to the general public; controlling the masses.
itanium
QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 10 2009, 05:31 AM) *
wouldnt you be angry if someone refused to serve you because you were a female?

x1000.
Tomates
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Apr 10 2009, 04:47 AM) *
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30146878/

Hey Gays,

If they refuse to inseminate you, go to another clinic!
If they refuse to take pictures of you, go to another photographer!
If they refuse to counsel you, go to another counselor!

wouldn't you be upset if someone told you no? No matter who you are, what gender, or what you believe in?
brooklyneast05
awwww poor christians cry.gif
mipadi
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Apr 10 2009, 04:47 AM) *
Hey Gays,

If they refuse to inseminate you, go to another clinic!
If they refuse to take pictures of you, go to another photographer!
If they refuse to counsel you, go to another counselor!

I agree. In fact, I feel the same way about blacks!

Hey blacks,
If they refuse to let you into their school, go to another school!
If they refuse to serve you a soda, go to another soda fountain!
If they refuse to let you drink at their water fountain, go to another water fountain!
If they refuse to let you sit in the front of the bus, go to the back of the bus!
illriginal
Christians... where are your WARRIORS?!?! KILL AND DESTROY THOSE INFIDELS!!!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!! stubborn.gif

Tell those gays to go to the Middle East and demand human rights. I'd like to bathe in their blood.
superstitious
Goddamn, man.
brooklyneast05
well, that's disturbing
IWontRapeYou
QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 10 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Christians... where are your WARRIORS?!?! KILL AND DESTROY THOSE INFIDELS!!!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!! stubborn.gif

Tell those gays to go to the Middle East and demand human rights. I'd like to bathe in their blood.


I guess we are just pass the whole Crusades mass murder thing.
illriginal
QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Apr 10 2009, 03:36 PM) *
I guess we are just pass the whole Crusades mass murder thing.

screw a mass murder, I want a genocide on all homosexuals, their families, and their friends. Oh and on metrosexuals and men who wear pink / purple, including the Lakers stubborn.gif



(sarcasm guys, just pokin fun)
hypnotique
QUOTE(superstitious @ Apr 10 2009, 09:14 AM) *
But it's ok for the church to push their views on everyone else?

Ive been saying this shit for the longest time *smh*


And secondly wtf is up with this "hey gays" shit?
Janette
QUOTE
* A Christian photographer was forced by the New Mexico Civil Rights Commission to pay $6,637 in attorney's costs after she refused to photograph a gay couple's commitment ceremony.
good.
QUOTE
* A psychologist in Georgia was fired after she declined for religious reasons to counsel a lesbian about her relationship.
good
QUOTE
* Christian fertility doctors in California who refused to artificially inseminate a lesbian patient were barred by the state Supreme Court from invoking their religious beliefs in refusing treatment.
good
QUOTE
* A Christian student group was not recognized at a University of California law school because it denies membership to anyone practicing sex outside of traditional marriage.
good.
iGio
QUOTE(hypnotique @ Apr 10 2009, 05:10 PM) *
And secondly wtf is up with this "hey gays" shit?



^Word . I agree with Tomates too .
kryogenix
You guys really believe that private individuals don't have the right to refuse service at their discretion? And you believe the government has the authority to force people to go against their conscience?

What a world we live in.
serotonin
QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 10 2009, 10:38 AM) *
I agree. In fact, I feel the same way about blacks!

Hey blacks,
If they refuse to let you into their school, go to another school!
If they refuse to serve you a soda, go to another soda fountain!
If they refuse to let you drink at their water fountain, go to another water fountain!
If they refuse to let you sit in the front of the bus, go to the back of the bus!

Whoa, Black people get to use soda fountains?
hypnotique
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 29 2009, 02:18 PM) *
Whoa, Black people get to use soda fountains?

Wow not even my people get that.

We have swine flu.
illriginal
QUOTE(hypnotique @ Apr 29 2009, 05:44 PM) *
Wow not even my people get that.

We have swine flu.


lol.

I think my Christian brethren need some lessons on how to handle non-believers.

First lesson would be how to handle a scimitar.
dosomethin888
Well, isnt female/male a gender, and blacks/whites/hispanics an ethnicity? So, thats something that you for sure cannot discriminate against. Its set into stone and we know for a fact that we are born with a certain gender and ethnicity. But why are people gay? Have we proven there is a gay gene? Is it that they are born this way or that there is, in fact, a gay gene? The last time I checked, we are still not sure.
So, christians dont believe in homosexuality, so why should they be sued because they refuse to cater to gays? Its their religion and the way the live their lives, so why should they have to shove their beliefs under the rug and do something just because a gay person refuses to go to another person?

Its absurd to say that I, or any other christian or person of any religion, would refuse service to a black person or a woman. Please dont use the homo/hetero, woman/man, black/white argument.

With this hate bill that was passed recently, its like I cannot discriminate against a gay person but they can discriminate against my religious beliefs. This is a free country. And if we start making hate bills for everyone who gets picked on our rights and freedoms are going to straight out the window.
illriginal
What's mind boggling is the double standard. Gays and pro-gays want everyone to accept homosexuality... if not we're considered homophobes and bigots.


People are going to have to accept that everyone is different. We don't NEED to like anything just because you do or you say we should. That's just silly.
mipadi
QUOTE(illriginal @ May 3 2009, 02:30 PM) *
What's mind boggling is the double standard. Gays and pro-gays want everyone to accept homosexuality... if not we're considered homophobes and bigots.
People are going to have to accept that everyone is different. We don't NEED to like anything just because you do or you say we should. That's just silly.

That's great, except that homophobes aren't accepting that everyone is different, and they're encouraging political policies (such as Proposition 8 in California) that actively alienate a whole group of people.

No one says that you have to like homosexuality, just that you should accept the fact that people are different, that homosexuals aren't doing anything to personally harm you, and there's no need to treat them as second-class citizens that don't have the same rights as heterosexuals.

(I actually don't think that churches should be forced to marry gays, either, but that's because I have a strongly libertarian view on personal rights, and I feel that the government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all -- I feel that every union should be a civil union. But that's another discussion.)
coconutter
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Apr 30 2009, 10:01 PM) *
Well, isnt female/male a gender, and blacks/whites/hispanics an ethnicity? So, thats something that you for sure cannot discriminate against. Its set into stone and we know for a fact that we are born with a certain gender and ethnicity. But why are people gay? Have we proven there is a gay gene? Is it that they are born this way or that there is, in fact, a gay gene? The last time I checked, we are still not sure.
So, christians dont believe in homosexuality, so why should they be sued because they refuse to cater to gays? Its their religion and the way the live their lives, so why should they have to shove their beliefs under the rug and do something just because a gay person refuses to go to another person?

Its absurd to say that I, or any other christian or person of any religion, would refuse service to a black person or a woman. Please dont use the homo/hetero, woman/man, black/white argument.

With this hate bill that was passed recently, its like I cannot discriminate against a gay person but they can discriminate against my religious beliefs. This is a free country. And if we start making hate bills for everyone who gets picked on our rights and freedoms are going to straight out the window.



take off your signature, now
illriginal
QUOTE(mipadi @ May 3 2009, 02:35 PM) *
That's great, except that homophobes aren't accepting that everyone is different, and they're encouraging political policies (such as Proposition 8 in California) that actively alienate a whole group of people.

No one says that you have to like homosexuality, just that you should accept the fact that people are different, that homosexuals aren't doing anything to personally harm you, and there's no need to treat them as second-class citizens that don't have the same rights as heterosexuals.

(I actually don't think that churches should be forced to marry gays, either, but that's because I have a strongly libertarian view on personal rights, and I feel that the government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all -- I feel that every union should be a civil union. But that's another discussion.)


Us gay haters have to put up with the fact that gays deserve their rights... to exist, but they don't deserve our respect, just like we don't expect them to respect us for our views. And... lol to think that they can go to a Church.. or a Mosque... or even a Synagogue to get married is laughable.


Fact of the matter is... there's more people who dislike gays than there is gays and pro-homos.. You want to bring this political thing into your post, ok.. that's fine, but guess what? We have the right to vote for or against anything, here in the U.S., INCLUDING gays. They want to get married? Find a state that will support them, if not leave the country get married and have your homo-honeymoon there, then come back.

Those homos and pro-homos are lucky they don't live in the M.E. where homosexuality or the promotion of homosexuality is not tolerated and is quickly rid of, literally. And they're lucky that here in the U.S. we even acknowledge them instead of ridding them.

Be happy with what you have gays... because that's the most you're gonna get out of this nation.
karmakiller
I think giving homosexuals civil unions is a step in the right direction, but that would mean that they would have to move to a state that recognizes their union and they may have to turn down opportunities because they cannot move (like job promotions.)

Religion aside, why shouldn't homosexuals be able to acquire the benefits of marriage? There are gay couple who have been together a looong time and if one of them is dying the other can't make a medical decision, they have to file separate tax returns even if they live in the same household, etc. It's not just the fact that two people love each other and should be together, there's some economic benefit to same sex marriage. And there are also openly gay people who not focused on gay marriage:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/06/sam...nomy/index.html
illriginal
^

They should have the right to marriage... just don't get mad when the population of your state says no and definitely don't ask a monk of an Abrahamic religion to marry you, that's just a little absurd, imo.
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