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BamBamBoogie
Do you all think that Germany should have been blamed for the FIRST (1) World War? Why?
wwwww
No. Gravrilo Princep should be blamed. Research him a bit and you'll find out why.
creole
Germany shouldn't took full blame. USA has flaws too.
wwwww
QUOTE(Beenly @ Apr 4 2009, 08:16 PM) *
Germany shouldn't took full blame. USA has flaws too.

But the US didn't have anything to do with the war until towards the end.
Maccabee
QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 09:18 PM) *
But the US didn't have anything to do with the war until towards the end.


Exactly. The us just assisted the British.
I think they sould take full blame. WHo else could have done anything?! They were the ones who invaded belguim and started the war.
wwwww
QUOTE(jcp @ Apr 4 2009, 08:32 PM) *
Exactly. The us just assisted the British.
I think they sould take full blame. WHo else could have done anything?! They were the ones who invaded belguim and started the war.

Austria-Hungary was the cause of the war. I don't know what history class you're taking, but it's not right.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 10:35 PM) *
Austria-Hungary was the cause of the war. I don't know what history class you're taking, but it's not right.


I agree. But imo, if it wasn't for Germany's instigations between austira-hungary and serbia, their disregard for other countries' well being and safety, and their unrestricted submarine warfare, the war wouldn't have involved so many nations to even be considered a "World War."
wwwww
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Apr 4 2009, 08:39 PM) *
I agree. But imo, if it wasn't for Germany's instigations between austira-hungary and serbia, their disregard for other countries' well being and safety, and their unrestricted submarine warfare, the war wouldn't have involved so many nations to even be considered a "World War."

I agree. Germany didn't start it, but they definitely didn't help anybody. It would have stayed one of Europe's many little outbreaks if Germany wasn't such a dick about the whole thing.
JackRapington
I don't think they should be blamed, nor do I thin they should have been punished as much as they were. Maybe if they weren't ordered to pay for the reconstruction of the allies then they would have never been desperate enough to put Hitler to power. Thus evading another world war.
karmakiller
QUOTE(9001 @ Apr 4 2009, 09:13 PM) *
No. Gravrilo Princep should be blamed. Research him a bit and you'll find out why.
I'm surprised you didn't say Kaiser Wilhelm instead.
sixfive
So if you're lonely
You know I'm here waiting for you
I'm just a cross-hair
I'm just a shot away from you
And if you leave here
You leave me broken
shattered, I lie
I'm just a cross-hair
I'm just a shot,then we can die
I know I won't be leaving here
With you
Gigi
^ I had to think about that one for a good 2 minutes haha
fameONE
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 4 2009, 11:51 PM) *
I'm surprised you didn't say Kaiser Wilhelm instead.

He was pretty manipulative in seeking vengeance, but I wouldn't blame him entirely.
karmakiller
QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 8 2009, 10:40 AM) *
He was pretty manipulative in seeking vengeance, but I wouldn't blame him entirely.
I wouldn't entirely blame one person, but I brought him up for a couple of reasons.

- It's no secret that he wanted Germany to be viewed as a powerful country, but I think it's tough to say whether or not he wanted to achieve this with or without conflict. I'd like to say that he wanted to make Germany a world power without conflict, but then I'd have no way to explain why he worked to increase and mobilize the German military. For the record, I would not want to actually be able to say that.

- He urged Austria-Hungary to attack Serbia as a way of revenge for the assassination of the archduke, which resulted in Britain, France, and Russia joining the war.

- He simply did not know how to control the military that he built up. I suppose one could argue that this helped the allied countries.

- He left Germany in a desperate state which lead to the rise of Hitler (who Wilhelm actively supported, even though Hitler was angry at him for "failing" Germany) and we all know what happened when Hitler didn't get into art school...
BOSS
no i blame chuck norris for sleeping during this time when he could've stopped
paperplane
Why do I feel like half the people in this thread have never taken a history class?
illriginal
Nah.. just white people


jk (semi serious... maybe)
karmakiller
rolleyes.gif I'm white and German. Ooh, scary.
sixfive
me too broski, name when immigrants came over was johanson/von stauff or something liek that/hesse and im sure a few others, i just don't know them :]
illriginal
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 26 2009, 05:35 PM) *
rolleyes.gif I'm white and German. Ooh, scary.


Damn we can't have children together, sorry. zipped.gif
karmakiller
^ hammer.gif Take it back! ewwwwww

QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 26 2009, 04:40 PM) *
me too broski, name when immigrants came over was johanson/von stauff or something liek that/hesse and im sure a few others, i just don't know them :]
stauf=accumulating, haha, from accumulating? At least those names don't have a lot of letters in them. My last name has 13 :(
illriginal
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Apr 26 2009, 05:56 PM) *
^ hammer.gif Take it back! ewwwwww

stauf=accumulating, haha, from accumulating? At least those names don't have a lot of letters in them. My last name has 13 :(


I will not! stubborn.gif
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