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illriginal
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 15 2009, 07:03 PM) *
They are going to look back in 5 or 10 years and see themselves like we see them and be so embarrassed.

Especially when they realize (hopefully realize) that Obama's going about it all wrong, economically speaking. And people thought that Obama was gonna stop the wars? Ha... he's promoting the war against Afghanistan.
JackRapington
What if he does a at least somewhat decent job? Then what. Seems like a lot of people are almost hopeing that he fails, but he he fails then we are directly affected by it. I just feel like hopping for the best is better than waiting for the worse. If that makes any sense at all.
illriginal
I agree... the only problem I have with Obama at this very moment, is his "bail outs" And Nancy Pelosi pisses me off with her fear mongering, "500 million Americans will lose their jobs a month if this bill isn't passed"


Stupid ass woman, there isn't even 500 million Americans to begin with.
dosomethin888
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 15 2009, 05:10 PM) *
Especially when they realize (hopefully realize) that Obama's going about it all wrong, economically speaking. And people thought that Obama was gonna stop the wars? Ha... he's promoting the war against Afghanistan.

true,true
datass
QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 16 2009, 05:45 AM) *
it has been a white country for a long time and i am one for tradition

elaborate, douche
illriginal
QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Feb 16 2009, 11:48 AM) *
true,true

He's sending another 17,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. Ridiculous. mad.gif

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Obama OKs about 17,000 more troops for Afghanistan

By ANNE GEARAN – 5 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama approved adding some 17,000 U.S. troops for the flagging war in Afghanistan, his first significant move to change the course of a conflict that his closest military advisers have warned the United States is not winning. "This increase is necessary to stabilize a deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, which has not received the strategic attention, direction and resources it urgently requires," Obama said in a statement.

That was an implicit slap at his predecessor, George W. Bush, whom Obama has accused of slighting urgent national security needs in Afghanistan in favor of war in Iraq.

The White House said the new commander in chief would send a Marine brigade and one additional Army brigade to Afghanistan this spring and summer. About 8,000 Marines are expected to go first, followed by about 9,000 Army troops. The United States has slightly more than 30,000 troops in the country now.

The new troops represent the first installment on a larger influx of U.S. forces widely expected this year. Obama's move would put several thousand troops in place in time for the increase in fighting that usually occurs with warmer weather and ahead of national elections in August.

The additional forces partly answer a standing request from the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, who has sought as many as 30,000 additional U.S. troops to counter the resurgence of the Taliban militants and protect Afghan civilians.

"There is no more solemn duty as president than the decision to deploy our armed forces into harm's way," Obama said. "I do it today mindful that the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan demands urgent attention and swift action."

The new units are a Marine Expeditionary Brigade unit from Camp Lejeune, N.C., and the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, an Army Stryker brigade from Fort Lewis in Washington state.

Defense officials said they are still working out final numbers of Marines who will deploy with the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade. A Marine Expeditionary Brigade can vary in size and makeup.

Among the forces recently notified of deployment is a Marine unit of infantry and ground troops from Camp Pendleton in southern California, said Kurt Bardella, a spokesman for Rep. Darrell Issa, a Republican who represents the congressional district where the base is located. He said a full Marine brigade that also includes air assault forces, electronic warfare and reconnaissance will leave for Afghanistan on May 30.

The withdrawal of troops from Iraq allows Obama to increase the numbers in Afghanistan. Last fall, the Pentagon announced that the Fort Lewis brigade was being ordered to go to Iraq.

Ahead of his first foreign trip this week, Obama told a Canadian news organization that the United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to Afghanistan, where the U.S. has been engaged in war since 2001.

"I am absolutely convinced that you cannot solve the problem of Afghanistan, the Taliban, the spread of extremism in that region solely through military means," the president said in a White House interview with Toronto-based Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

Obama is scheduled to make a quick day trip to Ottawa on Thursday.

Obama agreed to a troop recommendation from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the lone holdover from the Bush administration. Pentagon officials had been expecting a similar announcement for weeks, but the new Obama team took about a month choosing how and when to add forces to a war that has been sliding backward.

The president made his decision Tuesday, a senior White House official said. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of the announcement, said Obama informed congressional leaders and Afghan President Hamid Karzai by phone.

The planned troop deployment does not preclude sending more forces in the future, the official said. Any others, however, would come as part of a broader strategic review of the entire policy in Afghanistan and Pakistan, not as a stand-alone troop decision, the official said.

That review should be completed sometime around the end of March, which coincides with a NATO summit in Europe.

The strategy review for the Iraq war is expected to be completed in about two weeks or so, with announcements expected then on troop drawdowns, the White House official said.

U.S. commanders have said they want to beef up the expeditionary units and trainers in Afghanistan's southern region with enough new troops to stem the violence without becoming an occupying force that would alienate the population.

McKiernan has asked for more mobile forces and believes having a Stryker brigade will allow soldiers to move more easily along the rugged trails to the widely dispersed tribal enclaves.

Stryker brigades come outfitted with several hundred eight-wheeled, 19-ton Stryker vehicles, which offer greater protection than a Humvee and are more maneuverable than the heavily armored mine-resistant vehicles that are being used across Iraq.



Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...-u_vdwD96DK3HO0
brooklyneast05
if someone thought obama was going to "end all the wars" then they weren't listening to what he was saying the whole time anyway. he's outright said the entire time that he wants to get out of IRAQ, not Afghanistan becuase he's been saying forever that we need to finish shit in Afghanistan.

they could just read his website to know his views on the issue of iraq and afghanistan.

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Resurgent Al Qaeda in Afghanistan: The decision to invade Iraq diverted resources from the war in Afghanistan, making it harder for us to kill or capture Osama Bin Laden and others involved in the 9/11 attacks. Nearly seven years later, the Taliban has reemerged in southern Afghanistan while Al Qaeda has used the space provided by the Iraq war to regroup, train and plan for another attack on the United States. 2007 was the most violent year in Afghanistan since the invasion in 2001. The scale of our deployments in Iraq continues to set back our ability to finish the fight in Afghanistan, producing unacceptable strategic risks.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

i don't know, it doesn't seem very surprising to me what he's doing now
Maccabee
HES SENDING MORE TROOPS!
EXACTLY what our first president told us not to do!
Get involved with other countries.
emberfly
^George Washington didn't say shit about not sending troops..
Maccabee
He set not to get involved with other countries and to not get involved in other peoples wars to avoid trouble.
JackRapington
QUOTE(JosephCohen123 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:30 PM) *
HES SENDING MORE TROOPS!
EXACTLY what our first president told us not to do!
Get involved with other countries.


OMFGZ IMPEACHMENTZ nao.

You act like he is the first to do so. But then again according to you it was okay when white people did it because this is white America after all.
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