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Justingamemaster
peepoz i am gonna build my own computer because i think it's much cheaper to build your own.

help me on this topic.



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aznraver396
i have no idea how to build a computer but i might know some people who would.
SasukeNaru
Well however cheap it mayb.. its better to get brand name parts so u'll get better warranties. A friend of mine made his for 100$ top of the line and fell through 2 months later. He had factory warranties and his comp took a long time to repiece. Some parts u'll be surprised are from older computers airbrushed or fixed to look like others. Dont trust all that u see. Id buy a decent comp from Dell, or HP then upgrade from there
XaZnX07
yeah my cousin knows how to build a computer its alot cheaper umm i dont know how to but i would love to learn how well good luck on building one happy.gif



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Justingamemaster
its very easy you don't need any tools...just plug everything in basically....
tofumonzter
It's easy and you do have a self-warranties. self-warranties are much cheaper than the brand one. i dunno if it's just for me because i build most of my computer at home but the oldest one.
Justingamemaster
what are self warranties laugh.gif
tofumonzter
moved to technology
kryogenix
it's not sooo much cheaper, but it is cheaper. look for some tutorials on google.
Justingamemaster
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its not sooooo much cheaper, but it is cheaper.

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kryogenix
yeah, it isn't so much cheaper, but you will save a bit. Computers you buy from a store will have rebates and everything so you'll save a bit. if you build your own computer, you probably won't get those rebates and you'll probably use retail not OEM parts. But by building you get to customize the computer to your needs. So if you don't need a 200gb hd, you can build a computer with 100gb. If you don't need 3.6 ghz, you can build one with 3.0.
tofumonzter
QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Jul 2 2004, 12:40 PM)
what are self warranties laugh.gif

that's what i call it. tongue.gif
JlIaTMK
i want to build my own computer!!!!

it just seems like it works better....

maybe my cousin could build me one
MasterNe0
I've built computers before. It depends on what parts you want and where you buy it. It not always cheaper but at least you know what parts are in your computer.
But i suggest that if you do build your own, you research the parts you are buying and look around for parts. Also you need a great computer knowledge before you even attempt at building a computer at all.
ryan_73
i agree, if you know what you're doing, i'd suggest you build your own computer. you can save a lot of money and you can customize it to your exact specifications; and yes each part you buy should be covered by the manufacturer's warranty. i'll try to post some links for good tutorials later for whoever wants to build one. it's not as hard as it seems and when you're done, you'll have a better working knowledge about your computer so when a problem arises you'll know how to troubleshoot it yourself.
ryan_73
Here's some tutorials on how to build a pc from scratch:

Link 1
Link 2
Link 3

Most of the suscribers from the tech site forums I read recommend buying parts online from Newegg. They have one of the highest reseller ratings, a good return/replacement policy and some of the fastest shipping available. Many of the items include free fedex saver shipping. I buy most of my computer parts from them too.
Newegg.com

Hope it helps and good luck! happy.gif
Justingamemaster
uhh
this is my plan
  • nice case
  • 3-4 fans
  • im not to hot on watercooling, so i probablyh wont use that
  • amd athlon chip...2.6 or watever is highest...very cheap, but works just as fast as the fastest pentium.
  • radeon 9800 pro
  • Help with motherboard?
  • ghetto monitor
  • 80 GB HD
  • 1 cd rom drive
  • no floppy
  • REAL sound card
is that good enough?
ryan_73
for AMD i would recommend the AMD Mobile XP 2500+ (~ $80). the mobile xp cpu's are popular these days because they overclock easily to 2.4-2.5 ghz which in terms of AMD architecture and speed, its faster than a P4 3.2 ghz. the desktop AMD cpu and the mobile AMD cpu (originally intended for laptops) are virtually the same though. the only difference in that the mobile one operates at a lower voltage allowing it to clock higher. i have one myself and it works just great. if you don't plan to overclock than you should just get the desktop version. the 2 most sought after motherboards for the AMD XP processor line is the Abit NF7-S Rev. 2 and the DFI NFII ultra infinity board. they're selling for about $80-90. i think either board would suit you fine if you decide to go with one of them. they both also come with a good onboard sound card so you won't need to buy a separate sound card. the 9800 pro is a good video card too. don't forget your power supply. don't skimp out on a cheap one. Enermax, Thermaltake and Antec make the best power supplies. i think your setup looks good for starters. good luck with the project.
Blah
QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Jul 4 2004, 2:47 AM)
uhh
this is my plan
  • nice case
  • 3-4 fans
  • im not to hot on watercooling, so i probablyh wont use that
  • amd athlon chip...2.6 or watever is highest...very cheap, but works just as fast as the fastest pentium. 
  • radeon 9800 pro
  • Help with motherboard?
  • ghetto monitor
  • 80 GB HD
  • 1 cd rom drive
  • no floppy
  • REAL sound card
is that good enough?

Not really good. :P
  • any case
  • 4 fans
  • AMD [ Any kind] [Intel isn't good cause it only depends on speed and AMD is for safe]
  • Geforce [ any kind]
  • ASUS MotherBoard [ any kind.. Asus is the best motherboard company..]
  • Two Cd rom drives [burnable][dvd burnable]
  • One floppy
  • Any Sound Card
  • 120 western digital hd.
;]

"amd athlon chip...2.6 or watever is highest...very cheap, but works just as fast as the fastest pentium. "
and that part... 2.6 isn't that fastest... 4.5 is!! :D
it's like 200 dollars.
uLoVeMikeRoch
QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Jul 4 2004, 2:47 AM)
uhh
this is my plan
  • nice case
  • 3-4 fans
  • im not to hot on watercooling, so i probablyh wont use that
  • amd athlon chip...2.6 or watever is highest...very cheap, but works just as fast as the fastest pentium.
  • radeon 9800 pro
  • Help with motherboard?
  • ghetto monitor
  • 80 GB HD
  • 1 cd rom drive
  • no floppy
  • REAL sound card
is that good enough?

no please dont, that was terrible
Asus MotherBoard
I would recommand the radeon 9800 but then geforce released a new kick ass one that blows away the 9800, but then again radeon jsut realesed another one 2, soo either the Geforce 6800 (the new one) or the Radeon x800
pentium 4 3.8
8 fans
3 gig ram
the moniters alittle tricky, cuz the new 6800 geforce is the first card 2 use the new 16point architechture, basically a new moniter slot
512 gigs of harddrive
a creaive autigy sound card
a dvd-burner/cd/dvd/cd-burner
hells no screw the floopy
but if ur gonna forget the floppy i recommend a zip drive, external 2\

thats about it that should do u some good
Blah
Why yuo need 8 fans? I only have 3 fans and it goes below 10 degrees...
kryogenix
How much money are you planning to spend on this project?
tofumonzter
lol. eight fans. laugh.gif
Justingamemaster
my teacher wasted his money.
he built a computer with like 10 lights inside....
and like 10 fans
crazy as hell
when he starts it up, sounds like a frickan thunder storm




[edit]i dunno...geforce 6800 is kinda expensive....and its only a LITTLE better than X800....but thats only because in halo, the developers refused to let anyone test video cards using antistropic filtering....otherwise, x800 rules. but the 6800 is more "innovative"
Justingamemaster
QUOTE(ryan_73 @ Jul 4 2004, 4:52 AM)
for AMD i would recommend the AMD Mobile XP 2500+ (~ $80). the mobile xp cpu's are popular these days because they overclock easily to 2.4-2.5 ghz which in terms of AMD architecture and speed, its faster than a P4 3.2 ghz. the desktop AMD cpu and the mobile AMD cpu (originally intended for laptops) are virtually the same though. the only difference in that the mobile one operates at a lower voltage allowing it to clock higher. i have one myself and it works just great. if you don't plan to overclock than you should just get the desktop version. the 2 most sought after motherboards for the AMD XP processor line is the Abit NF7-S Rev. 2 and the DFI NFII ultra infinity board. they're selling for about $80-90. i think either board would suit you fine if you decide to go with one of them. they both also come with a good onboard sound card so you won't need to buy a separate sound card. the 9800 pro is a good video card too. don't forget your power supply. don't skimp out on a cheap one. Enermax, Thermaltake and Antec make the best power supplies. i think your setup looks good for starters. good luck with the project.

sorry for double post.

isn't the AMD 2500 already 2.5 gigahertz..?
ryan_73
QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Jul 6 2004, 12:14 PM)
sorry for double post.

isn't the AMD 2500 already 2.5 gigahertz..?

nope, the AMD XP 2500 is actually clocked at 1.83 Ghz. AMD used the 2500 reference number because when you compare and benchmark the cpu against an Intel Pentium 4, it performs similarly to an Intel clocked at 2.5 Ghz or 2500 Mhz. AMD uses a different design and architecture than Intel which although being clocked at lower speeds, allows it to compete effectively against Intel counterpart cpu's.
Justingamemaster
amds are faster.
they use more (i forgot the wowrd...for now its units)"units" per megahert, than intel. Intel uses like 5 and amd uses like 9 or 10...do the math...
visual_overload
QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jul 4 2004, 11:11 AM)
no please dont, that was terrible
Asus MotherBoard
I would recommand the radeon 9800 but then geforce released a new kick ass one that blows away the 9800, but then again radeon jsut realesed another one 2, soo either the Geforce 6800 (the new one) or the Radeon x800
pentium 4 3.8
8 fans
3 gig ram
the moniters alittle tricky, cuz the new 6800 geforce is the first card 2 use the new 16point architechture, basically a new moniter slot
512 gigs of harddrive
a creaive autigy sound card
a dvd-burner/cd/dvd/cd-burner
hells no screw the floopy
but if ur gonna forget the floppy i recommend a zip drive, external 2\

thats about it that should do u some good

3 gigs of ram? and 512 gigs of hard drive space? blink.gif

i agree with everything else though. i've always had good experience with asus motherboards, especially the A7N8X deluxe, that is, if you're gonna go Athlon. If you want Pentium, then i cant help you there mellow.gif . an audigy soundcard is a must and i think the 6800 is gonna help you in the long run because it has more features than the radeon x800. and instead of getting the floppy disk, i recommend those 5 in 1 card reader (the name slipped my mind pinch.gif )

good luck with building your first rig wink.gif
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