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Justingamemaster
i don't think they do.

Some kid isn't gonna "get violent" all of a sudden because of some game that is about something that is already happening in the news, movies, or TV already...





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EmeraldKnight
Generally I dont think they shouldnt.. but if say a kid spends most of his time playing them.. and has been playing from a young age, then yes, it would distort their sense of reality, because if they start playing those games when they're young and still developing a sense of right and wrong, they may get confused.. but hey, that's what game ratings are for.. if onli ppl would abide by them..
LiNHy POO
well for the younger ones... its gonna have an effect on them... cuz they are still in the learning process... and they're not sure of what's right or wrong yet... for them it is a threat.

the older kids.... i think they have more sense... sooo when they play... they dont put the game in reality... like the younger kids...
bigpoppaproppy
theres a reason you have t be an age to buy them

if underage kids stil get them, its the parents fault 99% likely

i want my violent games mad.gif
saintsaens
Who voted "yes?" That was stupid. Like bigpoppa says, give me my violent games back.

-Edit-
They teach you stuff too. Morals and what-not.
AZN_DRAGON
un sum games gets the urge to make ppl become like the game for example nba ballers is a everyone's labeled game and the story is jus like screwing ppl and getting the money so yeah its prety bad but i dont care i jus enjoy the game
ComradeRed
They don't pose a threat, some of the people playing them do.
kryogenix
VIDEOGAMES DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
dukesoccer07
yes... I go out and steal cars because GTA teachs me how
Kathleen
Dude people are seriously saying this just for their excuse as horrid parents. Parents are the ones who should be teaching kids morals. If they honestly think video games are going to distort their sense of reality, THEN DON'T BUY IT FOR THEM! Another thing, the ten o'clock news seems more violent nowadays compared to video games. I mean...sheesh.
SasukeNaru
Its not the games fault -
1. people have no self control
2. People need to be taught reality from fiction
3. Have common sense
Justingamemaster
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 2 2004, 1:36 PM)
Dude people are seriously saying this just for their excuse as horrid parents. Parents are the ones who should be teaching kids morals. If they honestly think video games are going to distort their sense of reality, THEN DON'T BUY IT FOR THEM! Another thing, the ten o'clock news seems more violent nowadays compared to video games. I mean...sheesh.

YOU TELL EM!! mad.gif

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xHalf nHalf
everybody in here makes very valid points, i strongly agree. parents blame the videogames for turning their children into violent rebellious kids when they give no effort into monitoring the games they play. its stupid...
kryogenix
i'm going to buy out rockstar games and make a new gta where the police are so good, no one would even dare to go on shootings or hijack cars.
ComradeRed
That's called a "police state".

In that situation, you get a lot of people together, commit mass acts of civil disobedience, get part of the military on your side, fight a civil war, and overthrow the government.

There's lots of games like that already.
XaZnX07
naw i dont think they pose a threat its just intertainment rite?







.:tony:.
JlIaTMK
id say a little because it depends on the kind of kids that play those video games.... i play them and i dont take them into that direction.... but theres others that do so....
Spirited Away
For one thing, I agree that kids who have violent games are due to the parents irresponsibility. For another, I agree that games do not kill, but people do.

Now that I have gotten that across, to the person who said that I'm "stupid" for saying "yes", you're even stupider for not even hearing the reason why and then making dumb assumptions. Ever heard of listening to both sides of the story?

So here is my take on it:

Games do not kill, however they promote killing and/or violence. Why else do we call it a "violent game" if it is not violent or if it doesn't promote violence?

What contributes to a child's early growth? Is it not their environment? Lets say that a child already live with irresponsible parents who are gone for most of the day (nothing new in our society), and all this child does is play games and watch TV for most of his/her time (which is nothing new either). If this child doesn't get any guidance from what is right/wrong, how is he going to know that what the game teaches is wrong?

No, I wouldn't say that violent games causes violence in children, however, I am saying that they do make contributions.

edit>> someone made a topic in the lounge entitled something like "what have the world gone to", to complain about how kids are more and more explicit in their language and act. I see a trend in games getting more explicit and violent and kids getting more and more decadent. There may be other factors, but violence in games/entertainement is very much one of these factors.
saintsaens
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 2 2004, 9:03 PM)
For one thing, I agree that kids who have violent games are due to the parents irresponsibility. For another, I agree that games do not kill, but people do.

Now that I have gotten that across, to the person who said that I'm "stupid" for saying "yes", you're even stupider for not even hearing the reason why and then making dumb assumptions. Ever heard of listening to both sides of the story?

So here is my take on it:

Games do not kill, however they promote killing and/or violence. Why else do we call it a "violent game" if it is not violent or if it doesn't promote violence?

What contributes to a child's early growth? Is it not their environment? Lets say that a child already live with irresponsible parents who are gone for most of the day (nothing new in our society), and all this child does is play games and watch TV for most of his/her time (which is nothing new either). If this child doesn't get any guidance from what is right/wrong, how is he going to know that what the game teaches is wrong?

No, I wouldn't say that violent games causes violence in children, however, I am saying that they do make contributions.

edit>> someone made a topic in the lounge entitled something like "what have the world gone to", to complain about how kids are more and more explicit in their language and act. I see a trend in games getting more explicit and violent and kids getting more and more decadent. There may be other factors, but violence in games/entertainement is very much one of these factors.

That would be me. And games don't make killers. They only give them ideas. BTW, These games give you morals, and the point of the game. Like in GTA 3, basically, the story is, "don't screw anyone over"
Spirited Away
QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jul 2 2004, 9:54 PM)
That would be me. And games don't make killers. They only give them ideas. BTW, These games give you morals, and the point of the game. Like in GTA 3, basically, the story is, "don't screw anyone over"

You're saying the same thing that has already been "pwned".

Anyway, these violent games give kids morals? How do suppose that? I don't understand "screwing" anyone over. I don't like these things, so I'll not buy them for my kids, I know better than to choose other people's way of life for them.

The arguement is whether or not these games are menaces to society not whether or not I would screw anyone over.

Oh... here's something funny... kind of related
Rock_Lee
I say, anyone who lets video games effect them in any other way besides being competetive, I.E; Warcraft, Starcraft, Counter-Strike...etc. Is an idiot. The only thing I use Postal 2 for is a stress reliever. biggrin.gif
Spirited Away
QUOTE(Rock_Lee @ Jul 2 2004, 10:29 PM)
I say, anyone who lets video games effect them in any other way besides being competetive, I.E; Warcraft, Starcraft, Counter-Strike...etc. Is an idiot. The only thing I use Postal 2 for is a stress reliever. biggrin.gif

(sarcasm) Children are usually idiots... can you blame them? (/sarcasm)
EmeraldKnight
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That would be me. And games don't make killers. They only give them ideas. BTW, These games give you morals, and the point of the game. Like in GTA 3, basically, the story is, "don't screw anyone over"

Give them ideas... and what if the ideas were to be implemented..?

Morals??!!! Okay, GTA3, what "moral" do you learn in that?
ComradeRed
Self defense tactics are useful.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 9:34 PM)
Self defense tactics are useful.

Oh I'm sure. If someone's attacking you, just point your thumbs at the bad guy and your body will automatically know what to do. tongue.gif
EmeraldKnight
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Oh I'm sure. If someone's attacking you, just point your thumbs at the bad guy and your body will automatically know what to do. 

Hahahaha laugh.gif

Video games arent realistic enough to teach you that.. taking a Self Defense class at some martial arts studio would be much more efficient
ComradeRed
But not as fun.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 10:23 PM)
But not as fun.

tongue.gif tongue.gif I'm sure having your attacker break your thumbs isn't very fun either.
EmeraldKnight
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  I'm sure having your attacker break your thumbs isn't very fun either.

Hahaha

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But not as fun.

Have you taken martial arts? its quite fun..
ComradeRed
Meh. Guns are more fun.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 10:44 PM)
Meh. Guns are more fun.

Eh, I like the feeling of beating on flesh more, thank you very much. happy.gif
ComradeRed
Sorry, I'm more of a gun person. Nice, quick, and clean.
EmeraldKnight
Listen to yourselves.. you're discussing preferred ways to kill people... ohmy.gif
kyuubi319
i really dont think so... chances are the way a kid's gonna get violent is through what they see on TV not what video games they play. plus, their rated, so the parent who buys it for their kid knows what their child would be seeing, so i suppose to some extent the parent is responsible -_-
saintsaens
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 2 2004, 11:58 PM)
Give them ideas... and what if the ideas were to be implemented..?

Morals??!!! Okay, GTA3, what "moral" do you learn in that?

I just told you. "Don't screw anyone over." And "if you play your cards right, you can be the biggest crime lord in the city."
EmeraldKnight
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I just told you. "Don't screw anyone over." And "if you play your cards right, you can be the biggest crime lord in the city."

What kind of morals are those? Teaching kids how to become the biggest crime lord.... wth???

QUOTE
i really dont think so... chances are the way a kid's gonna get violent is through what they see on TV not what video games they play. plus, their rated, so the parent who buys it for their kid knows what their child would be seeing, so i suppose to some extent the parent is responsible -_- 

The tv I agree with.. but the ratings.. meh.. no.. lots of my friends.. have parents that buy it for them that dont read the ratings.. or, they have older siblings do so
Spirited Away
QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jul 3 2004, 10:55 PM)
I just told you. "Don't screw anyone over." And "if you play your cards right, you can be the biggest crime lord in the city."

Oh yes, that explained everything. I wonder how old you are...

I wouldn't be very happy if my 5 year old kid learned the words "screw you" from from another kid, who's a game junkie... then again, kids these days are like that... I guess you can't expect much from polite society.

QUOTE
Listen to yourselves.. you're discussing preferred ways to kill people... 

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ComradeRed
I still go for the gun. I love Swiss Sniper Rifles.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 11:02 PM)
I still go for the gun. I love Swiss Sniper Rifles.

I'd go for good old brass knuckles...
EmeraldKnight
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I wouldn't be very happy if my 5 year old kid learned the words "screw you" from from another kid, who's a game junkie... then again, kids these days are like that... I guess you can't expect much from polite society.

Polite society? Where's that?

QUOTE
I still go for the gun. I love Swiss Sniper Rifles. 

Um.. that's nice..
Spirited Away
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 11:03 PM)
Polite society? Where's that?

My point exactly.
ComradeRed
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 11:03 PM)
I'd go for good old brass knuckles...

If this were GTA Vice City I could shoot your head off with a sniper rifle before you even see me to hit me with your brass knuckles.
Spirited Away
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 11:20 PM)
If this were GTA Vice City I could shoot your head off with a sniper rifle before you even see me to hit me with your brass knuckles.

If this were good ole Mario (and I have brash knuckle shoes), I'd beat your head 6 feet under.

Isn't obvious that I haven't played much video games?
EmeraldKnight
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If this were good ole Mario (and I have brash knuckle shoes), I'd beat your head 6 feet under.

Isn't obvious that I haven't played much video games?

And now we're comparing video games.. joy..

Minda.. I'd like to see you even obtain a sniper rifle.. and where would you even find brass knuckle shoes? wouldnt those be very tiresome on the feet?
Spirited Away
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 11:25 PM)
and where would you even y..find brass knuckle shoes? wouldnt those be very tiresome on the feet?

I don't know.. if I can't find them, i'll try to make them..

i don't think they'd be tiresome.. i mean, i'd be standing on human flesh most of the time.. nice and comfy.
EmeraldKnight
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I don't know.. if I can't find them, i'll try to make them..

Haha have fun
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i don't think they'd be tiresome.. i mean, i'd be standing on human flesh most of the time.. nice and comfy.

Erm............. blink.gif
Justingamemaster
kids that have irresponsible parents usually get beatings when they do something wrong... ohmy.gif ... so that would make them scared to do it again
EmeraldKnight
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kids that have irresponsible parents usually get beatings when they do something wrong...  ... so that would make them scared to do it again 

And your point is...?

If they have irresponsible parents, they wont consider violent video games wrong.. (that's why they bought it), so what's your point?
angel-roh
i said a little... well to let u know this... lotta children who plays violent video game can turn into a bad child... they can learn everything from a game and from music like eminem and 50 cent <_<;;; they cuss and stuff...children can hear those like from everywhere... so it's affecting those kids... and also of course teenagers lols...but i dont know.... i heard that it let their stress out away from them... cause lotta ppls wen they get mad...they just want to hurt someone and just get into a fight or kill themselves...so they play violent games so they can relieve their stress...is that true? O_O if so, thats scary O_O
Spirited Away
^^True.

If a child is exposed to offensive material most of the time, they'll mimic it.

I know that from hearing my 5 year old cousin calling my brother a bastard. She even thought that was funny.
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