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hi-C
QUOTE(fameONE @ Nov 15 2008, 06:03 PM) *
No matter how much I enjoy listening to 'Shooter,' or 'Let the Beat Build,' Lil' Wayne is just a modern day minstrel show to me.
lauziebaybee2k8
Well i think kanye west is a gud singa but he can be cocky at times, i listen to sum of his music but im a DRUM N BASS Fan lol,
manic
A lot of artists are horrible people that I would personally never want to have a conversation with after meeting them for the first time. Take glen danzig for example. He's a satanist and I still love his voice or david dramen for instance, a complete ***hole.

The sad thing about Kanye is that I hate his music, and I hate him so . . f*ck him and all of that bullshit.
AngryBaby
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Nov 14 2008, 07:53 PM) *
I guess it's just a matter of opinion then. I don't think he's great enough to be as cocky as he is. I think his music is overplayed MTV crap that teenagers listen to because they don't know how to find good music on their own. I have less respect for him as an actual artist because Kanye West is less about the music and more about his image.


um have you listened to his new shit? definitely not commercial stuff. we teens took it upon ourselves to FIND his music.
i wasn't that big a fan of kanye, but 808's and heartbreak is amazing.
fameONE
QUOTE(manic @ Nov 15 2008, 08:12 PM) *
A lot of artists are horrible people that I would personally never want to have a conversation with after meeting them for the first time. Take glen danzig for example. He's a satanist and I still love his voice or david dramen for instance, a complete ***hole.

The sad thing about Kanye is that I hate his music, and I hate him so . . f*ck him and all of that bullshit.

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U MAD?!
TBoltzbabe
QUOTE(AngryBaby @ Nov 16 2008, 02:42 AM) *
um have you listened to his new shit? definitely not commercial stuff. we teens took it upon ourselves to FIND his music.
i wasn't that big a fan of kanye, but 808's and heartbreak is amazing.

Yes, I have actually. I believe the the mainstream song from 808's is "Love Lockdown" which was introduced to the mainstream public at the MTV VMA's.

And also, in Atlanta they don't walk around in beaters and jeans like Lil Wayne. The style is more similar to Kanye's. And I don't like Kanye's style mmmmkay
fameONE
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Nov 16 2008, 02:04 AM) *
And also, in Atlanta they don't walk around in beaters and jeans like Lil Wayne. The style is more similar to Kanye's. And I don't like Kanye's style mmmmkay

You've established that you prefer unkempt over classy. You're just repeating yourself. But the entire city of Atlanta doesn't dress like KanYe, that's a stretch. rolleyes.gif
Simba
they wouldn't be able to afford to sad.gif
TBoltzbabe
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Nov 16 2008, 11:53 AM) *
they wouldn't be able to afford to sad.gif

Wow you kids are f*cking ridiculous!! How old are you anyways?? They wouldn't be able to afford to in Atlanta!! That wins the ignorant remark of the day award, congrats! Hahaha you obviously don't know the first thing about some of the black people in Atlanta then. Maybe I'm only speaking for myself because I only associate with certain people, but from what I've seen, Kanye's style is imitated much more frequently than Lil Wayne's.

And second, I prefer unkempt over classy?? I don't think Kanye's style is classy, I think he dresses like the tool that he is. I think Lil Wayne's style is more casual, and more chill, and I prefer that. I wouldn't say he is unkempt, although that's more than I can say about a LOT of the people that try to dress like Lil Wayne. His style is more rough around the edges while Kanye's style is kind of cartoonish. I think Kanye tries too hard, period. So I don't like him!! End of story! If you like him, great, good for you, you're sooo cool. There really isn't anything else to argue about because I've heard what you've had to say, and I get it--you think he's awesome!
batman
^ It's funny that you've said "we're all entitled to our own opinions" in nearly every post you've made. Stop perpetuating the argument if you're just gonna get pissed off.
Tung
TBoltzbabe is kinda hot.
RCKstarh
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And also, in Atlanta they don't walk around in beaters and jeans like Lil Wayne. The style is more similar to Kanye's. And I don't like Kanye's style mmmmkay


when u say "they" it sounds like ur talkin about majority which is SO UNTRU. i been to atlanta, nd they werent dressin like kanye..... from the teenagers/young adults that i've seen they were either did the whole beeter thing or some other style and maybe 1 or 2 kanye's. but i wud say kany's style is more in the NY, tristate area
TBoltzbabe
QUOTE(heartquasm @ Nov 16 2008, 04:18 PM) *
^ It's funny that you've said "we're all entitled to our own opinions" in nearly every post you've made. Stop perpetuating the argument if you're just gonna get pissed off.

How am I perpetuating the argument when my every attempt to "agree to disagree" is met with some other smart remark or statement??? Clearly I'M not going to just ignore that. But don't get it twisted... I don't get pissed off at internet people anymore. cool.gif Okay well I try my best not to, at least.
RCKstarh
guys, i thought this was just a fun argument about whether kanye is the "voice of the people"... why so serious?
cakedout
LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE
Amaranthus
Kanye West, the voice of a generation?
Probably not yet.

But I do think he's great. His shit is avant-garde.
Simba
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Nov 16 2008, 04:16 PM) *
Wow you kids are f*cking ridiculous!! How old are you anyways?? They wouldn't be able to afford to in Atlanta!! That wins the ignorant remark of the day award, congrats! Hahaha you obviously don't know the first thing about some of the black people in Atlanta then. Maybe I'm only speaking for myself because I only associate with certain people, but from what I've seen, Kanye's style is imitated much more frequently than Lil Wayne's.


Chill out, you took my comment way too seriously. console.gif

QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 16 2008, 04:29 PM) *
TBoltzbabe is kinda hot.
oh snap this ninja's a chick ohmy.gif
brooklyneast05
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dosomethin888
Lol, we should move this to debate.

I know so so little about music in general that I wouldnt stand a chance.
fameONE
She argues based on what she likes; I argue based on what's good and what isn't.

Yo, this girl is a GROUPIE. Get off his dick. mellow.gif

TBoltzbabe
QUOTE(fameONE @ Nov 17 2008, 12:31 AM) *
She argues based on what she likes; I argue based on what's good and what isn't.

Yo, this girl is a GROUPIE. Get off his dick. mellow.gif

There is no defining factor of what's GOOD and what isn't. I have friends in the music production industry in Atlanta and even they argue about whether Kanye is better than Lil Wayne. True, Kanye is a producer and has a more extensive resume than Lil Wayne, but as far as rapping goes and being the "voice of the generation," that is something to be disputed.

Of course I'm a girl...? And I absolutely would not call myself a groupie but I definitely have respect for Lil Wayne and what he does! I would be lying if I said I didn't have respect for Kanye and what he did too... but I think he needs to stfu sometimes.
fameONE
QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Nov 17 2008, 12:54 AM) *
There is no defining factor of what's GOOD and what isn't.


False. Do yourself a favor and listen to Superstar Pt. 0 by Canadian singer/emcee/guitarist K-OS. The dynamics of the track are amazing. From the jazz heavy production to how he delivers on the bars; it's an incredible song. That isn't to say that Lil' Wayne hasn't made any good music, because that wouldn't be a true statement. But to generally say that the majority of his released work is worth mentioning is laughable statement.

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I have friends in the music production industry in Atlanta and even they argue about whether Kanye is better than Lil Wayne.


Just because they make music, doesn't necessarily mean they know music. Lil' Wayne serves his purpose in the music business. He's a cash cow. Musically speaking, he's a mediocre rapper and fails to be a multi-faceted artist.

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True, Kanye is a producer and has a more extensive resume than Lil Wayne, but as far as rapping goes and being the "voice of the generation," that is something to be disputed.


I would never claim KanYe to be the voice of my generation, and if you look closely at the replies to the thread, most have stated something to that effect.

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Of course I'm a girl...?


Cool, you have boobs and female genitalia.

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And I absolutely would not call myself a groupie


*sigh. You're missing the point. If you were a guy, you'd be considerd a STAN based on your responses. If you wonder why you're getting so much flack for sticking up for someone who is more of a businessman than artist, please, feel free to refer back to bolded text.

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but I definitely have respect for Lil Wayne and what he does! I would be lying if I said I didn't have respect for Kanye and what he did too...


It is nothing wrong with appreciating the music of, or having respect for, a given artist, as long as you are realistic about their accomplishments and shortcomings in a discussion such as this one.

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but I think he needs to stfu sometimes.


Well... so do I. Especially after his GQ interview when he went on the record and admitted that he was ill-informed on political matters.

We good?
brooklyneast05
this video had me crackin up, i thought it was appropriate for this thread though since this would probably be close to his response




hypnotique
Hes gotten so douchy that I got banned for even mentioning him on 4chan.

(see http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=3088639 )

Kanye west needs to shut the f*ck up for 20 mins and chill.The guy is always bitching at something like my puerto rican mama.
brooklyneast05
no he isn't
Simba
It's cool that Kanyeezy keeps it real, which you gotta respect even if you don't exactly agree with him
hypnotique
I like him I just dont like when he makes it seem like hes a f*cking prodigy

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Simba
ha ha @ that screenshot...
hypnotique
My favorite Suggestion is "KANYE WEST GETS EMOTIONAL"
batman
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:07 PM) *
this video had me crackin up, i thought it was appropriate for this thread though since this would probably be close to his response

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hahahahahaha shiet, he really got himself worked up. i don't care what anyone says. i <3 kanye.
superstitious
Kanye West can be a total douche in the way he communicates but that doesn't mean that the guy isn't a fantastic entertainer. Elvis said it best, "Talent is bein' able to sell what you're feeling." Kanye's attitude sells, regardless of how much dickery and self absorption he conveys.
hypnotique
QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 1 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Kanye West can be a total douche in the way he communicates but that doesn't mean that the guy isn't a fantastic entertainer. Elvis said it best, "Talent is bein' able to sell what you're feeling." Kanye's attitude sells, regardless of how much dickery and self absorption he conveys.

I guess thats sums up how I feel about him.(Thanks for thinking what i was thinking) Im still mad as hell that i will be LULZ-less for 5 effing days.
Jenni
their soo rich they think they rule the world
brooklyneast05
wtf? back that up. who said kanye or any other music artist thinks they run the world
Harp
i love kanye...and everyone is an idiot.
cakedout
lol so what, dude has a mouth, he makes music thats straight heat and thats all i care about at this point cause everytime you show me pics of your kids, i can only show you pics of my cribs
datass
he's the best dressed man in vanity fair
synatribe
Im not the biggest fan of kanye's music, but I think he is great considering the fact that he has had the success he has in his career without 1 major scandal unlike britney, Kanye keeps himself in check and being able to do that is a great feat in itself
datass
poor guy just broke up with his fiance or something
sixfive
QUOTE(Aberisk @ Dec 2 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Im not the biggest fan of kanye's music, but I think he is great considering the fact that he has had the success he has in his career without 1 major scandal unlike britney, Kanye keeps himself in check and being able to do that is a great feat in itself

queer
rnicron
QUOTE(Aberisk @ Dec 2 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Im not the biggest fan of kanye's music, but I think he is great considering the fact that he has had the success he has in his career without 1 major scandal unlike britney, Kanye keeps himself in check and being able to do that is a great feat in itself
are...you...kidding? no major scandals, my ass.
andrewexd
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hi-C
QUOTE(andrewexd @ Dec 2 2008, 05:20 PM) *
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Good job.
andrewexd


better link

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-r...on-humble-kanye
ioio
QUOTE(Hedonism @ Nov 16 2008, 06:35 PM) *
Kanye West, the voice of a generation?
Probably not yet.

But I do think he's great. His shit is avant-garde.

TBoltzbabe
See? He's an idiot. If he's the voice of music, or our generation, or represents anything you want to be associated with... that just shows you what's happening in our country. He's totally disrespectful and disgusting to me, I don't really care what kind of music he puts out at this point. It isn't funny, it isn't cute, and he really doesn't mind ruining a 19 year old girl's moment just so that people will talk about him some more. Embarassing... he makes everything he stands for look just as bad as him. And this hasn't really surprised me either. He just totally lacks any sense of CLASS or respect. Just because you're famous doesn't mean you can do whatever the hell you want.
goth-nina
Voice of this genertation?

Well, this is a f*cked up generation.
creole
everyone stop buying kanye merchandise, stop listening to his music, stop watching him, stop mentioning him, and lets see if he goes ape shit in about 1 week. loool.gif


maybe he will change for the betta, lol
superstitious
While you're at it, destroy all of your Robert Downy Jr. merchandise and refuse to see Iron Man 2. After all, he's done some pretty naughty things (carrying firearms, being intoxicated on illegal drugs, drunk driving, violating probation, and for breaking into a house he mistook for his own and so on).
sixfive
Don't forget Chris Brown, too. Oh and Whitney Houston, don't let her have a come back. Also Madonna, Kate Moss, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Tom Cruise, Mariah Carey, Brad Pitt, Brittany Spears, Hugh Grant, Mel Gibson, Janet Jackson, etc. Don't support them at all.
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