They have probably been brought up before then for a reason stating that this whole topic is just ridiculous. What is there to f*cking read? All the title says is "should the N word be banned" and you just added "people should think before they talk" We have simply just stated our opinion on this. Theres not much to your post to agree about at all. I mean what do you expect? did you expect that you would have people saying "yeah i agree! lets riot about it and get our word out!!!" Atleast post a reason or something, your topic and replies are so incredibly petty that it makes me want to hurt a small child.

thing is, it's just pointless is what everyone is getting at. it doesn't change anything and it isn't going to make people stop saying it. you can't stop people from saying what they want to say, and i don't think anyone should try in the first place.

i wasn't raised in a household that embraced that word. i wasn't ever allowed to say any variation of it. i don't say it hardly ever, if ever. i don't call my friends that, ect. i personally think it is ridiculous...but i don't care if other people want to say it. that's their choice and i don't think they need to be censored. at the end of the day it can't be erased, or taken back, or stopped so i don't see any need in leading a crusade against a word that's not going to matter. there are way better things to fight for than the removal of a word from the dictionary.

i know people see is as some kind of symbolic gesture or something to remove it but it's not practical at all and doesn't make sense. i've been called a n****er numerous times and it would have the same effect on me whether or not it's considered a word or not...it'll still mean the same thing and people will still call me that regardless of if it's in the dictionary.

I believe you are referring to my first post, and that is not what I am talking about. I meant read the other comments that have been made because they have already been addressed.







I think you have made a great point. However, it is that exact mentality that its not important enough to fight for, that leads fuels inequal rights. For example, did you know that for years after Dr. King's "I have a dream" speech, there was no memorial or plaque to indicate where he stood while giving that speech? Many thought "so what? no big deal." It took a group of school kids to fight for some type of acknowledgement. Either way the speech happened, plaque or not. But it still means something to have a recognition of it. Another example is at George Washington's house. For years there was not even a leaf to honor the burial site of many slaves who weren't even all african-american. Some thought "so what? big deal." Well someone who was passionate about it worked hard to have a memorial for the burial site of a number of people who died, and fyi, there is still not an exact amount of bodies found there, although 100 is the number normally used.

My point is, despite how big or small something is, if you believe something needs to be changed, you should work 5x as hard to make that change. Or at least support efforts for change, despite what differing opinions may say.

ummm, i didn't say it's not important, i said it doesn't change anything. i've been to where King made his dream speech and i don't recall nor do i care if there was a plaque there or not. i don't think that really adds anything personally, it's not like it wasn't acknowledged until there was a plaque there...we've always acknowledged it. i don't think putting a plaque there changed anything. i'd like to see some sources on this big fight that it took to put a plaque up though.





i've been to Mt.Vernon, Monticello, ect. ummm i guess it's good they have something to honor the burial site now. it's not like they haven't honored it anyway. i don't get how this relates to a word really. i've never been on a tour to one of these places where the guide hasn't talked exclusively about slaves, slave quarters, slave burial, ect. i guess i don't really see the point here. it wasn't acknowledged at one point, but ya know, lots old graves aren't acknowledged...



thanks for the fyi, but i've already said i've actually been to these places and seen it so you don't have to worry about informing me that much!



look it's not going to be changed by taking it out of the dictionary or not calling it a word. that's what everyone is getting at. we're talking about a word, not a plaque that you can just make and stick somewhere and that's that. the only way to change this is for people to stop saying it, which they will have to do on their own, because you can't force away a word. so you can say it's not a word and then guess what...nothing will have changed and you won't see or hear it any less than you did before you all the sudden claimed it wasn't a word anymore. i just don't see how you're going to feel any better about it not being a word when it's still be said all the time.

you're examples don't mean that much in my opinion because you're talking about putting a physical object somewhere which isn't anything like a word which is an idea.

i disagree. I only gave physical examples because there has never been a "word thing." But, I still believe that it will change something. By us continuing to print the word in dictionaries and accepting it as proper, we are basically saying that it is okay for it to be used. People will still use it if they want to of course, but we can at least show a form of disapproval of the word. Otherwise we're just agreeing with the usage of it.

You can't automatically agree with the usage of the word if it's printed, and printing does not provoke people to use it. Not only that, it's a historical word, it belongs in dictionaries. Printing words does not provoke people you use them maliciously, that's up to the people themselves. Leave it alone, words are just words, there are none that are good or bad, it's the context they're used in that can be deemed good or bad

I think you've made the best argument so far. However, the last part is incorrect because there is no good way to use the "N" word.


I would like for everyone who says keep the word give a good reason for it to be kept. Like how would it be beneficial if it is kept?

n****er means shiftless and lazy.
Its actually not a racist word, people just happen to use it in racist ways, and if we ban it, people won't care, they'll say it anyway.
Its just a word. Plus, if we ban n****er we'll have to ban a bunch of other racist words, like porch monkey, and stuff. Then gays will want f****t banned, and "small people" will want midget banned, and Spanish/Mexicans etc, will want Spick[sp?] banned.

you're cool for doing that. thanks.

most of us answered what the topic asked, and even more, most went into a discussion about it, so do not try and tell us we have a lack of reading comprehension or whatever else you are saying.

Umm... that's not tru for majority of them ad even if you did discuss it, it was already discussed previously and the points were settled. So again, if you read where it was settled, then you didn't comprehend effectively. Otherwise, you wouldn't restate resolved arguments.



Thanks for defining it for us. I think that'll help a lot now. However, that is a new definition. But, Im pretty sure that isn't what it meant in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

However, Please read comments before posting. Many of us have addressed the whole "its just a word and if you ban it you gotta ban other words as well" thing . Just read a little so you don't sound ignorant okay?

Alright smartass, but that is the definition, so people can and more than likely do use it racially, but that does not make it a racist word, therefore it shouldn't be banned. And if we banned it, how would African Americans refer to there friends?

Oh and thanks maybe later you can teach me how to be ignorant.
You can't tell people what to do, so stfu.


The majority DID answer the question though, and she said most of us answered it OR (thats the main word) went into discussion about it. I know everyone answered it, even if they didn't say "Yes" or "No" they still said enough to let you know if they think it should or not.

Im aware thats not what your initially talking about. Though if you wanted to make a point of something you should have said more, it really just seems like your looking for people to just agree with you and call the others useless because they dont.

Who the f*ck uses n****er in formal literature/context?
Aside from the dictionary, of course.

hey news flash ain't is in the dictionary. f*ck is in the dictionary. and n****er is in the dictionary.

words are words. its the feeling/idea behind those certain words that can not be banned.
sure, it might be beneficial to an english lover to ban every word that is considered slang or informal, and just leave "formal" words, but that would not be a complete representation of the words we use in today's english language.

[MY BAD if someone already said that.]

So you want a good reason? Freedom of Speech

definetly freedom of speech
and some may say this also take the "infringe on someone's happiness"
so yeah i DONT think it should be banned if you say it and someone happens to be offended all you can say is sorry

besides if it's banned someone will make up a new word

Trump card.

It could be used when trying to sympathize with slaves. Such as "these people were ridiculed and called niggers, which was sad". That's not bad, it's a historical word, people used it commonly and it used to not be an insult, and it still isn't an "insult", it's a unique word actually. Calling someone a n****er, what are you really calling them? A black person? Or a certain type of black person? If it's a certain type of black person, i could see why people wouldn't want to be put in that category, but if it's just a black person, why does it matter? I'd hope people are content with the race they are.

If you were to ban the "n" word, you would have to ban all the other words that have negative connotation. A word doesn't create racism anymore than a plaque causes someone to have an emotional attachment to a location that is important to history. Sure, the tone and delivery of the word implies if the person saying it is saying it to harmful and hurtful. (I, personally, don't think there is any positive way to use the word.)

Why should we not be censored? In Nazi Germany Hitler burned books and dictated what civilians could and could not say. They were locked off from progressing as a nation. If the government starts to ban words, they are no better. I think that we need to learn how to progress and move forward. You should spend more of your time working to stop hate crimes than ban a word. If the word is taken away, the hate is still there. It gets us nowhere.

I hate when people use the word "n****er." It makes them sound ignorant.

huh? ^

I don't see why they should ban it anyway. It makes my day to see two whites calling each other nigger.

Freedom of speech won't be affected by removing the word from the language. They can still say it if the want. It just wont be seen as an actual word.

Bottom line is, taking the word out would be more beneficial than keeping it. No one still has not gave a good reason for it to stay and it should therefore be given the boot.

lol, what? You want to go through all the trouble of banning a word so that people can still use it. That defeats the purpose of a ban.

It's obvious that you can't stop people from saying a word, as many others have said before. But by declaring the "N" word as not a word, in my opinion there is a sort of symbolic meaning about the process. It kinda shows that America is putting thise kinds of things behind us and unity is closer.

Also I think someone said that if the "N" word is banned black people will have nothing to call their friends-WTF?

sad that this is the way they define the word "n****er"

1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.

2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised


^actually looked this up. this word was once a word that defined lazy and ignorant people..... upsetting that this word now denies a "black" person. if anything, this definition should be changed back to its original meaning instead of a way to deifine a "black person"

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No offense.

You haven't given a good reason for it to go. Your arguments are silly and far fetched.

Actually I have. The word should go simply because it is offensive and there is no good reason to keep it. By that I mean it will not be beneficial if kept. However, if it is gone, it will have a symbolic meaning to many, including races other than black.

This just shows ignorance. Anyone agree?

no

Nah. This cracker gets soggy when he swims and thinks black people are some of the most enjoyable people to hang out with.

Speaking of which, JC, we should meet up when I'm in NYC this winter break.

That didnt make much sense at all. To me what your saying is that they can still use it even though you want to ban it...So then whats the point of banning the word if people can still use it? And people will still see it as a actual word since they have said it for years now. Theres nothing beneficial about taking the word out if people are still going to use it.

This whole thing is ignorant, your statements are ridiculous

Are you clear on what ignorant means? Doesn't sound like it because if you did you would see that this isn't ignorant.

Did you even read my quote?

Yes im clear on what it means or else i wouldnt have said it.

I see...

Well maybe you aren't seeing my point clearly and I've tried many times to make it clearer. It doesn't get any clearer than: (1) It will have a symbolic meaning, (2)It does no good to keep it.

I am seeing your point and im saying that its petty.
How clear do I have to make it now?

Well petty means to not be important. So are you saying that this isn't important?

Now maybe your whole reason for not seeing it as important is because you have no idea where I am coming from with this topic, or maybe the word doesn't affect you. I have many family members who have been verbally abused with many words such as this one. We consider it to be offensive because we are on the recieving end of it. However, many people see it as not so offensive because it is a word that blacks have been called by for years, so nothing should change now. I disagree and therefore believe that we should get rid of the word to show that change can and should happen and we should not accept things as they currently are. As I said before, there is absolutely no good reason for keeping this word.

Wow, just read the last two pages. This is stupid.

WTF You make no f*cking sense, no matter how you word your opinion,
Also , you're quite redundant.

"Yeah, because n****er is ignorance and, um, yeah it's symbolic of unity and n****er is ignorant, which means petty, which is what ignorant is, which if you haven't noticed is symbolic of unity."

You're entitled to your opinion.


Hmm... I don't recall saying that. Can you read?

I know where your coming from and i know its a very insulting word. Your responses dont make sense at all what so ever.
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Please explain how that makes any sense. It doesnt at all and all of your responses have almost been like that which means you dont know how to fight your own argument or your not really understanding/reading what others are trying to say.

Like i said above before, im aware its insulting but your going to have to face it, people are still going to say the word and abuse it even if its banned and if "it wont be seen as an actual word" People will still know what it means which wont make anything different.





again what the hell? Are you even reading the responses? or understanding them? Your answer makes no sense at all to him

I quit.

Thank god

Agree to disagree?

Agree to disagree with what? Your lack of knowledge for supporting your own opinion?

1. Spell check
2. How do I lack knowledge to support my opinion?
3. Its obvious Im not agreeing with anybody here and no one agrees with me, so I am saying agree to disagree to respect differing opinions.

1. Its spelled fine Ktnx
2. For all your answers/responses it looks like you went to wikipedia to grab a sentance to make yourself look like you knew what you were talking about
3. No one agree's with you because what you have said is ridiculous.

lol@the arugument between Natilie and BamBamBoogie.

lol. You're quite stubborn. I really don't care if anyone agrees with me. I still sleep quite well at night. Im not going to continue to argue with you either. I tried to end this debate in a respectful way, but you obviously don't want to do that. So... later.

and btw I said spell check before you did an edit.