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illriginal
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:41 PM) *
Ok, just assume I called you a n****er, spick, chink, whatever.

Any lacerations? Cuts, bruises, bumps? Broken bones? Dislocations? Death?

Oh yes. You call me a s**c to my face and you'll end up with all sorts of skin splits/cuts, bruises, bumps all over your face and skull + broken limbs. I wouldn't kill you... instead I'd like to see you suffer for the next few weeks as you heal up. Maybe just maybe I won't come back and do it all over again.
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QUOTE(smash @ Feb 21 2009, 09:49 PM) *
lol. no but really, those are fighting words. it may not hurt someone physically but it's disrepectful. it could butthurt someone emotionally and possibly mentally.

Fixed.
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 21 2009, 09:50 PM) *
Oh yes. You call me a s**c to my face and you'll end up with all sorts of skin splits/cuts, bruises, bumps all over your face and skull + broken limbs. I wouldn't kill you... instead I'd like to see you suffer for the next few weeks as you heal up. Maybe just maybe I won't come back and do it all over again.

http://images.google.com/images?q=lynching

Like all of that?

Just a little bit of hypocrisy.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 21 2009, 10:50 PM) *
Oh yes. You call me a s**c to my face and you'll end up with all sorts of skin splits/cuts, bruises, bumps all over your face and skull + broken limbs. I wouldn't kill you... instead I'd like to see you suffer for the next few weeks as you heal up. Maybe just maybe I won't come back and do it all over again.


Amen thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 21 2009, 09:52 PM) *
Amen thumbsup.gif

That's what it is. You're agreeing with Tama. Nobody here does that.
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 21 2009, 11:28 PM) *
9001 is white. that's basically all you need to know to understand his thinking.

read it again you guys, gosh


it's no coincidence that tung, myself, illmortal, ashley, BamBamBoogie all say we'd be pissed if someone called us a racial slur. none of us are white, so you know, we would actually know what it's like to be called something like this or disrespected in this way.
illriginal
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:52 PM) *
http://images.google.com/images?q=lynching

Like all of that?

Just a little bit of hypocrisy.

Like I said, I wouldn't kill you, definitely wouldn't lynch you. I'd beat you down for the sake of knowledge... sometimes pain is the best form of knowledge for those who deserve it. Philosophical shit, son.

QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:56 PM) *
read it again you guys, gosh
it's no coincidence that tung, myself, illmortal, ashley, BamBamBoogie all say we'd be pissed if someone called us a racial slur. none of us are white, so you know, we would actually know what it's like to be called something like this or disrespected in this way.


ooooooh now I see. Ok now I know better. Thanks for clarifying, bro!
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 21 2009, 09:56 PM) *
Like I said, I wouldn't kill you, definitely wouldn't lynch you. I'd beat you down for the sake of knowledge... sometimes pain is the best form of knowledge for those who deserve it. Philosophical shit, son.

Not philosophical, barbaric.
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 21 2009, 09:56 PM) *
read it again you guys, gosh
it's no coincidence that tung, myself, illmortal, ashley, BamBamBoogie all say we'd be pissed if someone called us a racial slur. none of us are white, so you know, we would actually know what it's like to be called something like this or disrespected in this way.

So you don't think people are racist against whites?
illriginal
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:58 PM) *
So you don't think people are racist against whites?

Pfffft you'll never understand. You can read your whole history and it'll never amount to the pain and suffering of those who are non-white.
brooklyneast05
stop double posting. someone come warn him for it already because he keeps doing it and it's f*cking annoying.

and no, i never said no one was racist to whites. but, white people are usually the ones who go around claiming they wouldn't care if someone called them a racial slur. no shit, it's becuase no one really does in any serious form.
Tung
White Male Privilege. Look it up. Most white people don't even realize they have this social privilege.
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 21 2009, 09:59 PM) *
Pfffft you'll never understand. You can read your whole history and it'll never amount to the pain and suffering of those who are non-white.

illriginal
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 11:03 PM) *

And? You think that's more brutality than the others? Get real.
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 21 2009, 10:07 PM) *
And? You think that's more brutality than the others? Get real.

It's more brutality than anyone here has experienced.
BamBamBoogie
okay everyone calm down. Im not trying to start a race war...
Tung
The enslavement of African Americans > Holocaust.

Also check out the Khmer Rougue, bombings in japan, agent orange in Vietnam, and even currently what the US is doing in IRAQ. there's tons more of history people aren't taught, or US history doesn't cover.
illriginal
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 11:09 PM) *
It's more brutality than anyone here has experienced.

I'm talking about the history of races/ethnicities other than white. Stay on topic or accept defeat.
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QUOTE(Tung @ Feb 21 2009, 10:09 PM) *
The enslavement of African Americans > Holocaust.

Also check out the Khmer Rougue, bombings in japan, agent orange in Vietnam, and even currently what the US is doing in IRAQ. there's tons more of history people aren't taught, or US history doesn't cover.

According to Wikipedia:
QUOTE
Jews 5.9 million [30]
Soviet POWs 2–3 million [31]
Ethnic Poles 1.8–2 million [32][33]
Romani 220,000–1,500,000 [34][35]
Disabled 200,000–250,000 [36]
Freemasons 80,000–200,000 [37]
Homosexuals 5,000–15,000 [38]
Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500–5,000 [39]

Over 6 years.

According to http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm:
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In American Holocaust (1992), David Stannard estimates that some 30 to 60 million Africans died being enslaved. He claims a 50% mortality rate among new slaves while being gathered and stored in Africa, a 10% mortality among the survivors while crossing the ocean, and another 50% mortality rate in the first "seasoning" phase of slave labor. Overall, he estimates a 75-80% mortality rate in transit.

Over 400 years.



Holocaust: 2739 deaths per day.
African Slavery: 308 deaths per day (assuming midpoint between 30 and 60 million is correct.)
smash
QUOTE(Tung @ Feb 21 2009, 10:01 PM) *
White Male Privilege. Look it up. Most white people don't even realize they have this social privilege.

a lot of white people are racist by default. i think it's the ones who choose to be aware of the fact that they have such privilege because of their race that tend to be less prejudice, if prejudice at all towards other races.
Tung
lol that wikipedia shit didn't talk about the 1.5+ million people that died in the Khmer Rouge.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(9001 @ Feb 21 2009, 11:21 PM) *
According to Wikipedia:

Over 6 years.

According to http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm:

Over 400 years.
Holocaust: 2739 deaths per day.
African Slavery: 308 deaths per day (assuming midpoint between 30 and 60 million is correct.)


blink.gif Wikipedia??? Are you serious??? I can go on there right now and change those numbers myself
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QUOTE(Tung @ Feb 21 2009, 10:25 PM) *
lol that wikipedia shit didn't talk about the 1.5+ million people that died in the Khmer Rouge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

Third paragraph.

Tung
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 21 2009, 08:27 PM) *
blink.gif Wikipedia??? Are you serious??? I can go on there right now and change those numbers myself

So what. Wikipedia is pretty useful for these kinda stuff. And those numbers seem to be right.

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QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 21 2009, 10:27 PM) *
blink.gif Wikipedia??? Are you serious??? I can go on there right now and change those numbers myself

Ok then.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=...duleId=10005143 First paragraph
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/holo.html First paragraph

Yeah, two reliable sources.
Insurmountable
I'm sorry but why should this word be banned? Around here black people call each other n****er like they are saying brother to them.

Its just a word, people need to suck it up if they find it offensive.
brooklyneast05
i think the topic starter is the only one in all 10 pages to think it should be banned lol
Insurmountable
Oh okay, haha. I don't ever read the full topic, who wants to read 10 pages of people arguing with each other >_>
BamBamBoogie
I really wish people would read the posts. I clearly said that I understand the word cant be banned and the wording of this topic is off. Now, please continue debating. This is gettin' pretty interesting.
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Facepalm'd extremely hard.
Uronacid
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 21 2009, 11:39 PM) *
I really wish people would read the posts. I clearly said that I understand the word cant be banned and the wording of this topic is off. Now, please continue debating. This is gettin' pretty interesting.


Why don't you just have an admin change the topic title for you.
Tung
there's nothing to debate if the topic title is going to be changed
karmakiller
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:00 PM) *
stop double posting. someone come warn him for it already because he keeps doing it and it's f*cking annoying.

and no, i never said no one was racist to whites. but, white people are usually the ones who go around claiming they wouldn't care if someone called them a racial slur. no shit, it's becuase no one really does in any serious form.
Yeah, he's an annoying debater. Hopefully he doesn't double post anymore... EDIT BUTTON!

I agree with you. I mean, I'm white and I get offended when someone calls me a Nazi. I couldn't see how being call the n word would not offend someone.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Feb 21 2009, 11:52 PM) *
I agree with you. I mean, I'm white and I get offended when someone calls me a Nazi. I couldn't see how being call the n word would not offend someone.


thumbsup.gif FINALLY someone is seeing the light [No pun intended]
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 24 2009, 02:16 AM) *
thumbsup.gif FINALLY someone is seeing the light [No pun intended]


.................
brundleswat
I think the word "EGREGIOUS should be taken out of the english language as well. It annoys me, Laymens rarely ever even use it in a sentence and if I hear it, I dont understand it and I take it as disrespect. In fact, I think every word that offends someone in even the smallest way should be banned because do we really need people to feel slightly uncomfortable in this modern world. I think if we as a people take the initiative to ban every disrespectful term we can revert to our original grunts and noises where so no one can be offended. Fucking moron. Turn into a caveman you bastard and leave intelligent people alone.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(The-Abominable-Cpillar @ Feb 24 2009, 03:03 PM) *
I think the word "EGREGIOUS should be taken out of the english language as well. It annoys me, Laymens rarely ever even use it in a sentence and if I hear it, I dont understand it and I take it as disrespect. In fact, I think every word that offends someone in even the smallest way should be banned because do we really need people to feel slightly uncomfortable in this modern world. I think if we as a people take the initiative to ban every disrespectful term we can revert to our original grunts and noises where so no one can be offended. Fucking moron. Turn into a caveman you bastard and leave intelligent people alone.


umm... blink.gif

How is the N word and intelligence at all related?
brundleswat
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Feb 24 2009, 09:13 PM) *
umm... blink.gif

How is the N word and intelligence at all related?

Im not saying the "n-word" and intelligence are related, Im saying that the idea of banning a word that offends people is retarded and it leads down a road of stupidity. Political correctness is the dumbest idea in the history of civilization, fuck correctness, I'll offend if I fucking want to. BTW, I fucking HATE the "n-word." Not "nigger," I dont give a shit about that. I mean the "n-word." Its just white people getting away with saying nigger and all you're doing is avoiding actually saying the word but then putting the word in the listeners head. You say "n-word" and I hear "Nigger" but I dont want to fucking say it, you fucking say it and take some responsibilty you doofus.
Uronacid
QUOTE(The-Abominable-Cpillar @ Feb 25 2009, 12:49 PM) *
Im not saying the "n-word" and intelligence are related, Im saying that the idea of banning a word that offends people is retarded and it leads down a road of stupidity. Political correctness is the dumbest idea in the history of civilization, fuck correctness, I'll offend if I fucking want to. BTW, I fucking HATE the "n-word." Not "nigger," I dont give a shit about that. I mean the "n-word." Its just white people getting away with saying nigger and all you're doing is avoiding actually saying the word but then putting the word in the listeners head. You say "n-word" and I hear "Nigger" but I dont want to fucking say it, you fucking say it and take some responsibilty you doofus.


Damn right, this country is getting worse and worse because people are going "ban crazy" every time someone gets offended. Look at how watered down our entertainment is now-a-days. It's crap. In real life people use racial slurs, crack minority jokes, and cuss up the storm all the time. You have all these corny movies and tv shows that aim to be politically correct just to avoid offending everyone or gaining a bad rep in the media... I miss Clint Eastwood back in the day.... *sigh*
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 2 2009, 11:57 PM) *
Damn right, this country is getting worse and worse because people are going "ban crazy" every time someone gets offended. Look at how watered down our entertainment is now-a-days. It's crap. In real life people use racial slurs, crack minority jokes, and cuss up the storm all the time. You have all these corny movies and tv shows that aim to be politically correct just to avoid offending everyone or gaining a bad rep in the media... I miss Clint Eastwood back in the day.... *sigh*


So you're saying that it is okay if majority of a race is offended by a term used in an entertainment piece as long as it is entertaining to you and/or a select few who agrees with you? I say hell no, but then again, thats just imo.

And also, entertainment is filled with very offensive material that is filled with the bullshit that everyone loves. Perfect examples: Family Guy, South Park, etc.
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Neither Family Guy nor South Park are offensive to anyone sane.

The characters of Family guy talk about sex every once in a while, but other than that, it's just jokes about Garry Coleman.

The characters of South Park cuss a good bit, but it's all about current events. Back in the days when South Park was a decent show, it still wasn't very offensive. I remember the best episode they ever had involved Cartman farting a satellite dish.

Oh yeah, nigger.
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(9001 @ Mar 3 2009, 05:12 PM) *
Oh yeah, nigger.


what is the point of adding that
hypnotique
QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 2 2009, 10:57 PM) *
Damn right, this country is getting worse and worse because people are going "ban crazy" every time someone gets offended. Look at how watered down our entertainment is now-a-days. It's crap. In real life people use racial slurs, crack minority jokes, and cuss up the storm all the time. You have all these corny movies and tv shows that aim to be politically correct just to avoid offending everyone or gaining a bad rep in the media... I miss Clint Eastwood back in the day.... *sigh*

HOLY SHIT HI JOSH.
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 3 2009, 05:17 PM) *
what is the point of adding that

What's the point of addressing it?

I'm surprised that you don't have me blocked.
brooklyneast05
i don't block people.
Uronacid
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Mar 3 2009, 12:06 AM) *
So you're saying that it is okay if majority of a race is offended by a term used in an entertainment piece as long as it is entertaining to you and/or a select few who agrees with you? I say hell no, but then again, thats just imo.

And also, entertainment is filled with very offensive material that is filled with the bullshit that everyone loves. Perfect examples: Family Guy, South Park, etc.


That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm simply saying I like my entertainment to be just as realist as life around me. Not some half-hearted watered down bull shit. What would have happened if Ozzy Osbourne said "Nigger" on MTVs reality TV show. They would have cut it out of the program. What if contestants cracked queer jokes on Charlie Herschel in survivor. They'd cut it off the air or crucify whoever said it.

Entertainment is not filled with "offensive" material. The only place you can get decent undiluted TV these days is from private television stations (HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc...) and BET. Yes, that's right BET. The station where they can say nigger all day long. While they don't characterize all African Americans on BET they certainly characterize the majority of African American citizens living around me. While I hate the programs, at least African Americans have more "freedom" than every other race out there.

People are just easily offended. For a program targeting general audience. It takes a show that maintains the soul purpose of being politically incorrect to say words like "nigger", "queer", or other words deemed offensive by the "media".

QUOTE(9001 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Neither Family Guy nor South Park are offensive to anyone sane.

The characters of Family guy talk about sex every once in a while, but other than that, it's just jokes about Garry Coleman.

The characters of South Park cuss a good bit, but it's all about current events. Back in the days when South Park was a decent show, it still wasn't very offensive. I remember the best episode they ever had involved Cartman farting a satellite dish.

Oh yeah, nigger.


Wasn't that the first episode...

QUOTE(hypnotique @ Mar 3 2009, 07:21 PM) *
HOLY SHIT HI JOSH.


Hi, Jeremy asked me to post in here so don't get used to my ugly mug. Haha, if you want to talk though. I'll respond to PM's.
Kontroll
omg. You're stupid. You can't ban a word from a language. You might be able to keep it out of the dictionary, but as it's socially unacceptable and also slang, it probably wouldn't be in there anyway.

Let's see you try and get every one to stop saying n****er. Bet you can't.
RoyalSwagger
No they shouldn't and it would be dumb if they did they cant only ban one races word... they would have to ban cracker... and noodles... etc...
BamBamBoogie
Wow, people are still saying the same things over and over. Quite redundant...
Tung
Wow, you're still bumping this thread. Quite redundant..
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