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Cyanide-
QUOTE(Mikeplyts @ Nov 15 2008, 11:15 PM) *
lol@the arugument between Natilie and BamBamBoogie.

lol at the fact he/she cant support his/her own topics too well flowers.gif

QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 11:16 PM) *
lol. You're quite stubborn. I really don't care if anyone agrees with me. I still sleep quite well at night. Im not going to continue to argue with you either. I tried to end this debate in a respectful way, but you obviously don't want to do that. So... later.

and btw I said spell check before you did an edit.

Im aware im stubborn, but its better to let my opinion go out then for it to not be heard. Im glad you sleep well at night though i have no f*cking idea what that has to do with this. I wouldnt call this an argue because i dont have anything agaisnt you, its more like a heavy discussion because thats what debates tend to be, heavy discussions. The risk you take of making a debate is for seeing others posts that you may not agree with. Respectful or not respectul, this post had it coming. Sooner or later someone would roll by sitting in my position now.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 15 2008, 11:16 PM) *
lol at the fact she cant support her own topics too well flowers.gif


um... Im a guy. stubborn.gif
Cyanide-
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 11:17 PM) *
um... Im a guy. stubborn.gif

my bad, thats why i changed it right after to he/she because i had a feeling you might be a guy but wasnt positive.
Amaranthus
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:47 PM) *
You're entitled to your opinion.
Hmm... I don't recall saying that. Can you read?

It's a f*cking generalization, can you infer?
manic
How easy is it to make a word go? It is a word and it has a definition, what can you do about it when referring to resources or reading a book without seeming silly?

I don't see how banning the word would have a positive impact. Its true that any body can make a memorial, or work to get a bill passed, and etc. if they are passionate enough. If someone wants to waste time and energy trying to ban the word and finding people to support them . . . that is on them. It shouldn't be too hard, right? I mean look at the feedback in this thread!
batman
QUOTE(FreshYetDead @ Nov 13 2008, 05:25 PM) *
Then gays will want f****t banned, and "small people" will want midget banned, and Spanish/Mexicans etc, will want Spick[sp?] banned.


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yeah, bitch!
karmakiller
lol, I don't think anyone took this thread seriously, yet the replies were enough to make him want to quit debating the topic.
misoshiru
QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 16 2008, 11:36 AM) *
Wow, just read the last two pages. This is stupid.

me too. but i just waste my time reading the last five.
ScArFaCeLaDii
You do know black people can be racist too, right?
So if the N word is banned, then so should Cracker and all of the other white racist terms.
And plus, cops aren't gonna come rolling up the second you say it for christ sake. You can't freaking ban a word. People can say whatever they want.
Oh and there are TONS of other racist words for black people, so uh, why are you just focusing on the N word? jeeeze. Stupid question.
wwwww
HEY OP! NIGGER!

Not only should n****er not be banned, but it should not be censored, and it should not regarded as profanity.

Banning n****er isn't going to end racism at all. People will just start saying rope-fillers.
dosomethin888
My mom told me today that "sin" was taken out of the dictionary. I dont know if thats true but if it is, I have no idea why they would do that.

Since the dictionary is just a holder of all words, why should any words be taken out of it? No matter how mean or offensive that word is, it is still a word. And, people interpret and think of words differently, so why should it be up to these dictionary-people to take out words people will say anyway?
firechild
Why ban something that can just be looked at differently, some people think the N word is racist, some don't.

QUOTE(FreshYetDead @ Nov 13 2008, 04:25 PM) *
n****er means shiftless and lazy.
Its actually not a racist word, people just happen to use it in racist ways, and if we ban it, people won't care, they'll say it anyway.
Its just a word. Plus, if we ban n****er we'll have to ban a bunch of other racist words, like porch monkey, and stuff. Then gays will want f****t banned, and "small people" will want midget banned, and Spanish/Mexicans etc, will want Spick[sp?] banned.


^its stick btw^

feminests will want "slut" banned
superstitious
Words shouldn't be banned. People who take words too seriously should be banned.
SuckDickNSaveLives
QUOTE(ScArFaCeLaDii @ Dec 31 2008, 02:46 AM) *
You do know black people can be racist too, right?

No they aren't, what are you talking about?
dosomethin888
QUOTE(superstitious @ Dec 31 2008, 09:47 AM) *
Words shouldn't be banned. People who take words too seriously should be banned.

Well said, well said.
TOOLBAGSIRNUTS
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sixfive
Hell no it shouldn't censorship is bullshit. That's not to say everyone and their dad should be freely using every word they think of, but with discretion censorship is bullshit.
firechild
To any person you ask the N word either is racist or a term of collective brotherhood.
creole
i think it shouldn't be banned, but don't you think its rude to say that type of word in public?

ppl just say the "N" word at a friendly child place? srsly
BamBamBoogie
Wow, after all this time, even after I 'quit' debating this topic, people still havn't read the previous posts and are saying the same dumb shit like 'its just a word' lol. This is quite amusing.

QUOTE( @ Dec 31 2008, 11:59 AM) *
How else is snoop dog suppose to make his lyrics? Or how is Kat Williams suppose to do his shows?

1. If Snoop is unable to find other words in his vocabulary to use other than the n-word than maybe he shouldn't be worried about rapping. It would be in his best interest to go hit the books and learn a few more appropriate words.

2. Although Katt Williams is one funny dude, he is unfortunately in a 'mental institution.' Not sure if that's what it's called, but you get my point. Anyway, he won't be saying that on standup anytime soon.

QUOTE(IamLegend @ Dec 31 2008, 10:58 PM) *
No they aren't, what are you talking about?


Blacks are capable of being racist, as well as other races. If you look at the definition of racist, you will see this.



And to close, it seems as though a lot of you think that I am trying to display Blacks as being innocent, non-racist, victimized people. I am NOT doing this at all. I wish there was a way to rid our world of all of the offensive slurs that are used everyday, but as many of you have said, this is not possible. Of course there is no way of 'banning' a word, and I have already addressed that before. My whole point for making this thread was to raise awareness of how each of us have certain characteristics that may prevent the country and/or world from progressing foward such as racism, prejudices, biases, etc. We all are different, but we are also the same in many ways. Rather than looking at someone with unique qualities as being weird, look at those differences as blessings that could be used to help someone else who may not have that quality. I hope you all understand my point now.
creole
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Jan 2 2009, 01:58 PM) *
Wow, after all this time, even after I 'quit' debating this topic, people still havn't read the previous posts and are saying the same dumb shit like 'its just a word' lol. This is quite amusing.



You should always respect on how people say their debate. No matter how "dull, dumb, funny, and lame" it is.

QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Jan 2 2009, 01:58 PM) *
Blacks are capable of being racist, as well as other races. If you look at the definition of racist, you will see this.

Oh really? I'm going to start looking at lots of online dictionaries to see if your statement is true.

Source 1 ; Meriam Webster
Source 2 ; Dictionary.com
Source 3 ; Google Dictionary
Source 4 ; Yahoo Dictionary
Source 5 ; Wikipedia

Obviously, it is your choice to be "racist" or not. Just know, your words can hurt other people. Like if a white guy calls a black guy "N*GG**"? Then, there would be violence. Or if the person who was offended was smart, they would ignore it or walk off. Similar to how we have a choice or not to click on this link and read this topic.
cakedout
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 14 2008, 07:32 PM) *
No one still has not gave a good reason for it to stay and it should therefore be given the boot.

cause you know, the first amendment is one shitty ass reason
Tung
QUOTE(cakedout @ Jan 2 2009, 03:00 PM) *
cause you know, the first amendment is one shitty ass reason

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BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(cakedout @ Jan 2 2009, 06:00 PM) *
cause you know, the first amendment is one shitty ass reason


umm... I've already addressed that. whistling.gif

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Obviously, it is your choice to be "racist" or not. Just know, your words can hurt other people. Like if a white guy calls a black guy "N*GG**"? Then, there would be violence. Or if the person who was offended was smart, they would ignore it or walk off. Similar to how we have a choice or not to click on this link and read this topic.


clap.gif Exactly, which proves my point that all races can be racist.
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SuckDickNSaveLives
QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Jan 2 2009, 05:58 PM) *
Blacks are capable of being racist, as well as other races. If you look at the definition of racist, you will see this.

I'm aware of this, I was being sarcastic in my post. I honestly think every single person is racist to some exent, otherwise we wouldn't segregate ourselves by race. We would instead see each other as one individual human race.
Amaranthus
QUOTE(ninjaBeenly @ Jan 2 2009, 05:54 PM) *
You should always respect on how people say their debate. No matter how "dull, dumb, funny, and lame" it is.
Oh really? I'm going to start looking at lots of online dictionaries to see if your statement is true.

Source 1 ; Meriam Webster
Source 2 ; Dictionary.com
Source 3 ; Google Dictionary
Source 4 ; Yahoo Dictionary
Source 5 ; Wikipedia

Obviously, it is your choice to be "racist" or not. Just know, your words can hurt other people. Like if a white guy calls a black guy "N*GG**"? Then, there would be violence. Or if the person who was offended was smart, they would ignore it or walk off. Similar to how we have a choice or not to click on this link and read this topic.

Why did you provide links?

Btw I really like your sig.
karmakiller
Why is this topic still going?

QUOTE(BamBamBoogie @ Nov 15 2008, 10:05 PM) *
I quit.
fameONE
This topic is a bowl of epic failure.
alison-apples
It's just a word.
wwwww
It's just a bump.
illriginal
The "N" word is simply repulsive. And I'm sick and tired of black people using it and especially claiming they're the only ones who are allowed to use that word. It's not just a word... there's a nasty history behind it, there's actual emotions behind it, AND physical & mental torment.

Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. fought for equality and human rights... and this is how their people repay them? Disgusting.
fameONE
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 12 2009, 10:51 AM) *
The "N" word is simply repulsive. And I'm sick and tired of black people using it and especially claiming they're the only ones who are allowed to use that word. It's not just a word... there's a nasty history behind it, there's actual emotions behind it, AND physical & mental torment.

Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. fought for equality and human rights... and this is how their people repay them? Disgusting.

Words are repulsive when you empower them.
illriginal
QUOTE(WarMachine @ Feb 12 2009, 03:25 AM) *
Words are repulsive when you empower them.

You don't have to empower it. It is already empowered. Go to a 80 year old black woman or man and call her the "N" word even if you wanna "slang" it so it doesn't sound as bad. And I bet either she'll/he'll cry or she'll/he'll be pissed to hell. Why do people need to use such a word? The KKK said that word as they hung black men and women and children, the KKK used that word when they used to chase after blacks and hunt them down like animals, the KKK used that word instead of their names, the KKK used that word to refer to them as a specific people, the KKK used that word as they burned black churches and tormented black people.

By using the "N" word all you're doing is giving power to the White Supremacy, they are achieving their goal when blacks use that term towards another black.
fameONE
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 12 2009, 12:02 PM) *
You don't have to empower it. It is already empowered. Go to a 80 year old black woman or man and call her the "N" word even if you wanna "slang" it so it doesn't sound as bad. And I bet either she'll/he'll cry or she'll/he'll be pissed to hell. Why do people need to use such a word? The KKK said that word as they hung black men and women and children, the KKK used that word when they used to chase after blacks and hunt them down like animals, the KKK used that word instead of their names, the KKK used that word to refer to them as a specific people, the KKK used that word as they burned black churches and tormented black people.

By using the "N" word all you're doing is giving power to the White Supremacy, they are achieving their goal when blacks use that term towards another black.

As a Black man, simply saying the word doesn't offend me. I think it's more offensive to be told by a white person, "you speak so well!"

If you ban n****er, you'd have to ban s**c, kike, ginny, wop, mick, etc, etc, etc.
illriginal
QUOTE(WarMachine @ Feb 12 2009, 06:12 AM) *
As a Black man, simply saying the word doesn't offend me.

Because you've been won over. ermm.gif
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto
Damn this is one hell of a topic.
question...
so why do they make a big deal about what black people say.
if white people or other different races of people can use certain words to call each other like honkey cracker s**c and what not but find it offensive if someone else uses it
then why make a big deal over the word n*gga?
and there's a difference
n*gga and n****er
you should break that down to.
karmakiller
No offense, but I think the whole "n*gga" and "n****er" thing is stupid. It doesn't bother me if people chose to use a racial slur. What bothers me is how they are using the word. People will still use a word regardless of if you've banned it.
illriginal
QUOTE(Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto @ Feb 12 2009, 01:22 PM) *
Damn this is one hell of a topic.
question...
so why do they make a big deal about what black people say.
if white people or other different races of people can use certain words to call each other like honkey cracker s**c and what not but find it offensive if someone else uses it
then why make a big deal over the word n*gga?
and there's a difference
n*gga and n****er
you should break that down to.

I've never met a person other than a black person who referred to their own race as a racial slur.

Just sayin.
fameONE
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 12 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Because you've been won over. ermm.gif

Won over? How, exactly? Feel free to fill me in on what you know about my life and what is/isn't important to me.
Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 12 2009, 03:03 PM) *
I've never met a person other than a black person who referred to their own race as a racial slur.

Just sayin.

you view it as a racial slur the people if you ask them
don't refer to it as a racial slur.
they make a visual difference in the word n*gga and n****er
and they define the word that they use.
not as a racial slur but as a "term of endearment"
illriginal
The fact that KKK members and white supremacists til this day use that word gives me every right to dislike the word. Just because you make it "ga" and not "ger" doesn't mean crap. The only difference between the two is "dialect". Nothing more.
BamBamBoogie
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 14 2009, 11:18 AM) *
The fact that KKK members and white supremacists til this day use that word gives me every right to dislike the word. Just because you make it "ga" and not "ger" doesn't mean crap. The only difference between the two is "dialect". Nothing more.


clap.gif Amen. Finally someone sees my way of thinking. clap.gif
sixfive
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 14 2009, 10:18 AM) *
The fact that KKK members and white supremacists til this day use that word gives me every right to dislike the word. Just because you make it "ga" and not "ger" doesn't mean crap. The only difference between the two is "dialect". Nothing more.

n*gga please i otta pop a cap in yo bitch ass
Tramatize
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 17 2009, 12:58 AM) *
n*gga please i otta pop a cap in yo bitch ass

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BOSS
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 14 2009, 08:18 AM) *
The fact that KKK members and white supremacists til this day use that word gives me every right to dislike the word. Just because you make it "ga" and not "ger" doesn't mean crap. The only difference between the two is "dialect". Nothing more.

yeah it does mean crap. The usage of the word are looked at differently from all people. If you saw two people black calling eachother n*gga, would you step into their conversation and tell they how offensive you find it? f*ck no, they obviously know that neither of them are trying to offend eachother. you just seem to choose to view n*gga and n****er as the same.
illriginal
QUOTE(BOSS @ Feb 17 2009, 01:12 AM) *
yeah it does mean crap. The usage of the word are looked at differently from all people. If you saw two people black calling eachother n*gga, would you step into their conversation and tell they how offensive you find it? f*ck no, they obviously know that neither of them are trying to offend eachother. you just seem to choose to view n*gga and n****er as the same.

No. Instead, I'd laugh at their pathetic ignorance, and then feel sorry that their parents didn't teach them better.

BOSS I advise you to do a thorough study on the History of African men and women. Otherwise you'll be another person thinking there's nothing wrong with the word. God America IS shit.
sixfive
QUOTE(illmortal @ Feb 17 2009, 10:11 AM) *
God America IS shit.

Then why are you here?
illriginal
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 17 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Then why are you here?

Make money. Almost reached my goal then moving the eff out as this country as it rots further.
sixfive
Why not make money elsewhere? Surely there are opportunities in say, Europe, Asia, or maybe your ugly wife's anus?
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