idk honestly i'm with tung.

you're a jackass steven. as much as i like you and know you're just tryin to get a rise out of people it doesn't stop the fact you go out of your way to be really rude to people who have never really done anything to you here. you just bash and bash and call people ugly and tell them to die and all this crap so i don't get why you should just get to do whatever you please when other people don't.


i don't get the negative mentality that so many people here got.


just don't understand

i'm with

well that's one haha


i wish more people were with me. but i guess in general i wish more people were just chill on here. everyone gets so worked up on putting everyone down. i'm not really ever mean to anyone and i still have a good time here, but maybe that's just me

oh yeah, because i "call" someone a bitch means that i deserve to be warned?

^ if you're talkin to me, i don't know about you or what you did or anything.


i'm only talkin about steven, who goes around constantly starting shit for fun. which is ok with me as long as people don't go crazy when a mod does their job.

Is this what you got warned for?



idk, yanlin. i love you, but i think you're being a little petty. i'm never friends with the people getting bashed left and right, in fact, i'm usually friends with the people doing the bashing, but it was pretty obvious that it was getting out of control. they never really did anything to deserve the shit they were getting.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...p;#entry3091364

I didn't give Tung permission to post my picture in that thread. Do I care? Nah. Shouldn't be such a little bitch though when he's breaking the same rules he's warning me for. I like Tung and all, but inconsistency and staff isn't a very good thing for him, imo. Should just be around for snarky comments here and there, not modding.

Oh and I did give Elba permission.

yeah but is it ONLY because tung warned you? i mean who on staff do you think is warranted to give you a warning? because that's what is confusing me.

Was that "Steven" topic a bashing topic?

I would expect it from everyone else. No one else behaves like Tung. I don't dislike Tung's behavior, but if he's going to warn me for something he'd do himself, kinda stupid imo. Now if he warned me for posting nudes (I would never), or doing something else destructive out of the ordinary, I could see that. What he warned me for? Retarded.

@Elba, I don't think so. I assumed it was just tung being tung.

... what did he warn you for?

Posting other member's pictures. The ones found on their cB profile, not facebook.

I assume so. But see, Tung told me that I was warned because he was told that he was being too lenient. So, I was just trying to follow rules now. I wasn't talking about the bashing. So, the topic was closed. The end.

Lol aite you got me though steven on the posting pictures. I was watching a Lakers game online while all the Tomates/Shanaynay stuff was going on so my mind was off somewhere, so I quickly warned you (so it could at least slow your attacks on Tomates/Shanaynay/MissUchiha) and put the pictures thing as a reason, but I was definitely reading what was going on in the other threads, and you were member bashing though.

But you're right on the pictures thing.

i don't know, it's a fine line i feel like. i mean even if tung did something, it's still his job to mod. like if you got on staff right now, it would still be your job to warn people for bashing, even though you've done a ton of it yourself. not i think you'd ever warn someone for bashing if you were on staff but i'm just sayin.

i don't know if it makes sense to say that a mod can never warn a member for something they themselves have done before.

it's inconsistent in a sense maybe...but then there's a practical sense that factors in too i think.

oh, well, he was probably saying he was being too lenient in response to the report i sent:



I do agree that Tung can be a little (or a lot) more clear when posting up reasons for warning people.

It's cool, brah, I'm watchin the Rockets game right now. We're up, 97 - 89.

more along the lines of this.

Heh. It's a tough spot to be in.

is this where the idea that i think mods are too lenient came from?

Tell backstage to f*ck off.











With tact, of course.

Yeah, I agree with you. I'm trying to improve on communicating more on why I warn people.

Yeah JC. I think so. I don't even remember writing that, (cuz I was still watching the Lakers game ), but I probably shouldn't have said that. My fault.

Yanlin, I just felt that your warning was warranted. I don't know why you are so upset over it. It might be inconsistent, since I may not have warned you or others in the past, but that's what longevity is for. I'm still learning, and I'm getting advice from people, and trying to be a better mod. I probably should've handed warnings to people in the past. And if you guys are saying I should be consistent, doesn't that mean, I should continue to let that go. Not really. Cuz there is a fine line though, of when to stop. Steven is right though, that I do enjoy the dramas, but I'm a mod just doing what's suppose to be done. I don't know if any of what I wrote made sense.

It's more of the fact that my calling of someone a bitch is "member bashing"? So, if next time I say "damn you're ugly" I'll get warned again?

Personally, there was no ill intent behind bitch part of the "suck it up bitch".


Oh, and since we're on this topic of what equates member bashing, could you guys give me examples of what not to say anymore? Such as 1) can't call anyone a bitch anymore...

eh, i don't think you saying bitch alone is member bashing. you always say bitch, it's your thing.



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i didn't see this, but yeah, it's ok. i just thought that if yan lin thought she was warned becuase i said that mods were too lenient that was unfair/not really true. cause i was on a whole other subject regarding something completely different pretty much when i was talking about leniency and debate forum backstage.

well now that it's been clarified, i have no more beefcakes with you. keke.

good, cause don't like havin beefcake with his 's.

Tung - I hope you did not feel rushed to choose a random reason that I gave you, in response to you just closing the topic and typing "TOPIC CLOsed". I thought that you should at least put a reason, but a reason that really warranted the topic closure.

Oh yea and I thought when it comes to member bashing, it was more defined. I call people bitches all the time so I honestly think that YanYan was put on the spot. Usually when someone is actually REALLY OFFENDED by a post, then the member himself/herself (i.e. Tomates) should PM the poster (Yanlin) that s/he feels offended. IF THE PROBLEM PERSISTS and the poster makes it worse to the point that the member cannot do anything about it, that is when we seek intervention. Honestly, what happened to communication? I think that is where the inconsistency lies.

One may "feel" that a warning is warranted, but you can't just up and warn them without looking at the big picture. In addition, okay I found it as pure comedy, but since I didn't actually contribute to much bashing (or practically none) - just having fun and being blunt on my part - I did not get warned. That make sense. I think Yanlin and I are in the same boat. If anything, I think her comments are along the same degrees as I am (dunno if this makes sense but it does in my head).

that don't make no sense get out of here



ummmm agreed though. i'd agree that communication contributes a lot to inconsistency around here, just on everyone part. staff to staff, staff to members, members to staff, members to members, all around.

i got warned for calling shanaynay stupid. truth hurts.

yeah but at the same time i highly doubt you would have been warned if you had just said "shanaynay is stupid" in a topic. i thought your warning was more for the fact you went and made a whole topic about shaynaynayayaywatever being stupid.

what's the difference, really?

i duno, it just comes off as more bashing to people i think. becuase what is supposed to be talked about in the topic? nothing positive, just putting someone else down. i mean the entire topic is dedicated to talking bad about one specific person, and that's different than one post. it's intent is to promote more shit to be said about that person. it...takes it up to a higher level, or something. makes it a bigger deal. i don't know how to word it really.

i don't think there's a huge difference, but i think there is a difference between giving your opinion in a thread and creating a whole topic for the purpose of talking shit about one member who didn't do much to anyone


i duno what shanyayaanayanaayan kid or any of that little group did to anyone that was really that bad. they had a convo between themselves in another topic, that's about the extent of it.

Yanlin, Im not offended with what you said, so i apologize if it caused any trouble. Though i feel like your getting upset woth me for no reason, the "how did you even get motm" post and then i replied through a pm and then you responded by saying "lols because i didnt even vote for you" kinda confused me i gues so to say.
Did i do something to upset you? I mean was the comment honestly necissary? I mean i just want to know if i have done anything to upset you around here, so can i have an explanation? please?

Well you didn't report Yanlin, right? That's where it doesn't make sense because then Yanlin shouldn't have been warned if you didn't report her...

wat! u only get warned if you were reported? can u add cilantro 2 my sandmich

Naw, I'm saying that it seems Yanlin got warned because she called Tomates (or Ms Uchiha) a bitch. But if it didn't offend her, then what was the point of the warning? I mean often times people get warned because they are reported. Otherwise why would Tung warn her? Que.

I'm not upset with you. Just because I'm not upset with you doesn't mean that I have to like you.

I never reported her


Well i guess i dont get why you dont like me. Im not begging for a friendship or anything but i dont think i ever did anything to get you to not like me.

lol it's not that. i never believe you couldn't hate anybody before you got to know them. your posts might irk people?

Yeah I always randomly dislike people that have done nothing to me. It's irrational, yeah, but you can't help it. You have that sort of overly sweet demeanor that can get on people's nerves. You're like the polar opposite of Yanlin, forum posting-wise, so it's not really surprising.

Sigh. Before I got on staff, I made a thread or stated what exactly constitutes as member bashing so trust me on that I know where you guys are coming from. But Just because Tomates didn't get offended by what Yanlin said, that doesn't make it not bashing anymore. I could go around calling everyone faggots, and some people may not be offended, while others may be. The point is, it's still bashing bottom line. I know the word bitch is Yanlin's thing, but in the context and the timing of it in that thread, to me it was bashing. Being warned 10% is basically now equates to a verbal warning if you think about it. You only lose your member title at 20%.

hi tung, u c wat i made 4 u. SO GOOD

I swurr, "irk" is one of the most common words when it comes to mod related topics.

I had a feeling...well it may seem hard to believe but usually im not so sweet.

it's the hypocrisy they're talking about.

^it still seems like it comes back around to this though. i'm not talking about a specific instance right now, but just in general, what do you want tung to do? just never mod anything?

most people on staff are probably guilty of doing something at one point or another.

idk, it'd make more sense if he didn't jump the gun, but this isn't my fight.

it's not really mine either. i'm just curious about what people around here wanna see.

just when people get on tung for supposedly being a hypocrite, i just wonder what else they would want him to realistically do. it's not like he can take back his past or anything, same as if any of you guys got put on staff. by your standards you wouldn't be able to mod anything either. (general you, as in everyone sayin tung is a hypocrite, not specifically you spencer)

it's not anything to do with his past, it's that he's doing the same things while on staff that he did in the past, but then reprimanding others for doing it. yeah, yeah, he said he's being warned for it, but how far do you have to go until it actually matters? he is on staff afterall.