Okay, I should've made it clearer, I wish that more of people staff had forum presence. In People Staff, I personally feel that only James has forum presence.

IMO, ruth only does mod stuff.

And James has only had forum presence for all of three days.

are you kidding. ruth is all over the relationship forums helping people out. i notice her presence.

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relationship isn't the only thing that needs mods.

ok staff, take notes.

people want mods who are members of the community. not mods who are mods. mods who are mods are disconnected from the community.

well said.





now where have the mods been all this time we've been having this discussion?

Backstage, from the looks of it. All three online are "reading board index."

yeah. backstage should not be the only place that mods go either.

yanlin for people staff.

Er, I've been in Relationships for a bit now... Or at least, predominantly, but note taken.

Out of curiosity, are mods still not allowed to be invisible? Or was that a blogring rule?

they are allowed to

Yeah, I remember that being BR now. Got confused for a second.

and to add a bit more, after what happened this last week, I feel that the current mods should step up their game even more and in a way, solidify the sense of community on cb. It seems that it's completely fallen apart now.

i agree with yan lin.

Aw Look at Mr. Ex-Mod JC being all supportive and teaching them how to do things.

W.W.Jc.D

Assuming there was ever a sense of community in the first place. You can't really fix what you haven't broken. I don't feel as if moderators had a significant forum presence before, anyway, but people have other things to do, especially at this time. The criticism would be more constructive at another time.

Yea, yea you tell 'em. He's was on the mod team, a former ex-Head Staff. Listen to him.

lol.

But seriously, yea you should be all around the forums if you're a moderator, especially as people staff. I mean, just because maybe the anime, food, Relationships, etc. forums might not have been touched or something by other moderators, you're still supposed to go around to each forum, do something here, do something there, etc.

But moving topics and stuff is important as well as a strong presence. People want to see that you're actively participating in a community that you've been selected to lead, whether it be participation or moderation. That balance is what keeps you on, ESPECIALLY if you are part of People Staff. I'm not going to deal with Design Staff or anything because I'm not really over there... Haha.

And it's not even about "having" a sense of community at this time. There is always a sense of community, but it depends on how you handle it. I mean, without a sense of community, don't you think everything would be in chaos? Just because we have the drama and crap doesn't mean that everything is falling apart. I think it's that kind of pessimistic attitude that boggles me, that's all.

EDIT - MissHygienic, I am not attacking you or anything. This is just a general statement, but it incorporates what you've said. I know you've been around also, as I've seen you.

p.s. jusun deleted stevens account, not any of the admins.

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here's my opinion on design staff. i don't really think that they should be held accountable for not having a strong enough forum presence. How many of the people posting in this topic actually visit the Resource Center? Should we expect the design staffers to have to answer questions in the RC while moderating topics there as well, go through 50+ layouts and 50+ graphics in the queue, submit layouts, and then turn around and post whore in the community center? Sounds like we're asking too much of them, in my opinion. People staff are only required to moderate the community center and keep their post count up. (Not saying that they do less than the design staff, just saying that it's like apples and oranges. You can't expect the same things out of DS as you would from PS.)

so why do we go to such great lengths to find design staffers with a 5.0 ppd when the second they get hired they're going to have to start focusing more in the RC than the CC? Most of the people even interested in design only come here to share their expertise by posting in the RC or submitting a ton of layouts. Why would they care about the community center?

just sayin.

trish is right. i don't really care about DS's forum presence compared to people staff. although it would be nice, sarah was able to do it.

Sarah has no life.

Hey, guys, sorry I didn't check in here when I was online last night... for once I actually genuinely forgot to check into Feedback, hence missing the reorg thread as well. Sad times...

I'm going to make a point of trying to actually start some topics as well as just joining in over the next little while.

The only thing is I have essay deadline sup until next thursday, so I'll be a little stretched. I'll work on it though.

Although yanners does have a point, I am time zoneally challenged, despite being somewhat nocturnal.

Apparently there's another 20% of mods that needs to be abolished as well.

^for what?

i know you don't like the mods, but the site needs them. i don't know who you would want to mod. you seem to dislike just about everyone here.

Some are cut out to be mods, most really aren't and I have no clue why they're even in that superiority level.

I am curious as to who you think isn't cut out and why.

It's best not to mention names.

Tbh, that's really not helping in speaking out then.

Tbh, that's really not helping in speaking out then.

Actually, no. That just ends up being incredibly unhelpful and unproductive.

I don't think mods are put in place to be "superior" to anyone else here.

Exaaactly.... nor are they meant to abuse any rules at any given time when they feel is ok to do so.

Well, yeah.

Tamacracker - if you have a problem with a specific staff member/s or aspect of CB either go ahead and spit it out already or suck it up. If you don't feel like you can announce your reservations publically; PM a staff member who you feel you can communicate your problems to.

I completely disagree with that. Previous to the current mods, many of the mods (and in all of this, I'm referring to only People Staff, DS doesn't matter) had a strong presence around these forums. People Staff are modded not only to just mod the general forums, but to keep the forums moving. Sure, everyone's busy at this time of the year, whether we're regular/official members or mods. But if all PS does right now, is to comment on just one or two subforums and talk backstage, I don't feel as if they're really doing their jobs.

And are you saying that just because people are busy, that my criticism of not having mods around is invalid? Obviously, none of you are paid to work here, which makes 'modding' just whatever spare time you may have. But if mods can't devote time to cb, even if it's just 15-20 minutes a day or so, to pop in, visit a couple of subforums and comment on certain things, then I think that they should step down.

So many previous mods have been demoted or have stepped down due to this. Not because they don't come on every day, but they don't make their presence seen enough that it was seen as inactivity.

Nah, I basically misspoke. I was talking about the new People Staff moderators, not in all of history of moderators on CreateBlog. There was already a discussion about how moderators should work together and act like a team rather than having our (in general) own personal brand of dysfunction. I wasn't invalidating your statement of having all of the moderators step up their game; I was saying that the moderators weren't really working well together in the first place. Hence, you know, persuading a few to step down from staff. I can't speak for them, though.

Ah okay, I get it.

You're right, I'm gonna suck it up and watch.

were you trying to make a reference like W.E.B Du Bois?

WWJD, or "What would Jesus do?"

well I accidently made a new topic, so mods can close that one, but I would like to say thank you to the mods for taking time to care for the community, I respect that, and I also respect your tolerance alot for the bashing people pf this community :]]

Instead of replying in MP with "take out the image tags", why not PM the person instead or use your energy to take out the image tags? It's annoying reading a reply that has nothing to do with the topic.

That goes to Cristy. That's all I ever see her doing.

So?

To answer your question, "verbal warnings" have been issued in the past for this, but we've recently discussed already that this is slightly inefficient. Instead, when it happens, an automatic raised warning level will happen (since a 10% warning increase is nothing, especially since OMs only get demoted at 20% now) - the member will be contacted and hopefully this will stop happening.

I don't really see why you wouldn't still edit them if leaving tags in is a problem.

S-Majere deserves a promotion if possible. Finally she has listened to me and has taken action to get rid of bnox after gettin caught having multiple usernames. I applaud you S-Majere, you rock.

For all of you who had doubt... I dislike you. JK... but I have to say this though, I TOLD YOU SO!




Here's a hint, she doesn't deserve to hold the position she has, and many people know and can agree to this, someone such as yourself does. Get rid of her and you'd get rid of a lot of problems.

^ Well at least now we all know it's a she he's talking about.
So can't be any of the guys on staff.