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brooklyneast05
i was almost always on invisible when i was on staff, and before it, and now. i almost never sign out though so i just keep the same setting automatically and never really think about it. anyway i've never really had a problem though with anyone wanting to sign on that way shrug.gif


i think resolved threads should work like they do in the resource center.
superstitious
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 1 2008, 12:23 PM) *
i think resolved threads should work like they do in the resource center.

Meaning, wait until the OP has said something about the resolution?
The-March-Hare
Hi, guys.

Due to something which happened very recently, I will have to be on very low/no activity for the next few days, at least. This is a personal issue, so I can't give a definitive time frame.

I'm posting this here because the absent thread has disappeared from the pinned section of the lounge, and this was quicker than searching.
brooklyneast05
QUOTE(superstitious @ May 1 2008, 05:37 PM) *
Meaning, wait until the OP has said something about the resolution?



yes ma'am
Tung
QUOTE(micron @ May 1 2008, 06:04 PM) *
what i find interesting - and somewhat annoying - is that most of you who are so intent on tearing someone down - you wouldnt be able to make a good design even if someone was to give you a million dollars; if youre going to ostracize someone in public, at least be qualified at their level.


Wow, way to blatantly put down EVERYONE on this site. That was a really uncall for comment, and dumb thing to say imo. Give me a penny, and I'll made a layout and good design. If she was SOOO good at designing, why would she need to jock and copy images? What does that say of her as a designer. I rather be an average designer, than a designer who supposedly a so called 'expert' who jocks and reuse layout concepts.

Sorry, but I really got offended by this comment you said, because you really act like Trish is above as all, and that she is on some kind of "level" that is higher than ours. She is not above me, nor is she under me. We're all equal here. It's like saying since we aren't on someone's level we shouldn't criticize them? So should we not criticize our president. He's above our level is he not?
Elba
QUOTE(Tungster @ May 1 2008, 08:35 PM) *
Wow, way to blatantly put down EVERYONE on this site. That was a really uncall for comment, and dumb thing to say imo. Give me a penny, and I'll made a layout and good design. If she was SOOO good at designing, why would she need to jock and copy images? What does that say of her as a designer. I rather be an average designer, than a designer who supposedly a so called 'expert' who jocks and reuse layout concepts.

Sorry, but I really got offended by this comment you said, because you really act like Trish is above as all, and that she is on some kind of "level" that is higher than ours. She is not above me, nor is she under me. We're all equal here. It's like saying since we aren't on someone's level we shouldn't criticize them? So should we not criticize our president. He's above our level is he not?

Also, to add to this, perhaps you're right, Jusun. Maybe we have done something similar in the past. The difference between us and trash Trish is that if someone pointed out that we were jocking or should have given credit on something, we'd say something along the lines of "Oh, you know what you're right, I should have given credit on that. Sorry, I didn't mean to" or whatever. HOWEVER, Trish never owns up to shit. She can't admit to being wrong. She said it herself that IT "DESERVED NO CREDIT", WHEN CLEARLY IT DOES DESERVE CREDIT.

I think the thing isn't really about Trish using the image without crediting; it's more about her not being able to say she was wrong and should have given credit.

Bitch, own up to your shit.
Melissa
^ I agree with Elba.
micron
QUOTE(Tungster @ May 1 2008, 11:35 PM) *
Wow, way to blatantly put down EVERYONE on this site. That was a really uncall for comment, and dumb thing to say imo. Give me a penny, and I'll made a layout and good design. If she was SOOO good at designing, why would she need to jock and copy images? What does that say of her as a designer. I rather be an average designer, than a designer who supposedly a so called 'expert' who jocks and reuse layout concepts.

Sorry, but I really got offended by this comment you said, because you really act like Trish is above as all, and that she is on some kind of "level" that is higher than ours. She is not above me, nor is she under me. We're all equal here. It's like saying since we aren't on someone's level we shouldn't criticize them? So should we not criticize our president. He's above our level is he not?

hi,

i apologize, it was a stupid thing to say. i didn't mean to put Trish above everyone else, i dont believe that. i was expressing my frustration over the whole situation, considering that most people learn how to web design first by imitating other designs, and more often than not, not crediting them. most designers would readily agree with me on that fact, so i found it annoying when people who aren't designers were so ready to attack her (without knowing the real situation behind "jocking" - everyone did it at one point in their designing 'careers'). but this doesnt excuse Trish from brushing everything away, considering her reaction to Mike's previous mistakes.

i could have expressed myself better, so i apologize.
Teesa
^thanks for saying that jusun. and i can totally admit to not crediting images, etc. when i FIRST started making layouts and stuff.

we just want her to admit that she did something wrong. why is that so damn difficult?
Tung
Thanks Jusun. I agree that as a beginner designer, I too did jock and didn't credit images I used. But we are talking about an expert here, who jocked so that's sort of different. She's no beginner, and fully well know what she did. But yeah again, thanks for the clear up Jusun.
rnicron
QUOTE(micron @ May 1 2008, 10:53 PM) *
hi,

i apologize, it was a stupid thing to say. i didn't mean to put Trish above everyone else, i dont believe that. i was expressing my frustration over the whole situation, considering that most people learn how to web design first by imitating other designs, and more often than not, not crediting them. most designers would readily agree with me on that fact, so i found it annoying when people who aren't designers were so ready to attack her (without knowing the real situation behind "jocking" - everyone did it at one point in their designing 'careers'). but this doesnt excuse Trish from brushing everything away, considering her reaction to Mike's previous mistakes.

i could have expressed myself better, so i apologize.
Yeah, when they FIRST start...not after they've gone through schooling and done plenty of client work.

It was nice that you at least owned up to your mistake, though.
Just_Dream
QUOTE(Teesa @ May 1 2008, 08:55 PM) *
we just Why is that so damn difficult?

Because she's already digged a hold she can't get out of
Obviously she doesn't have the time to deal with this, what with all the interviews and "clients" she has.

Might I add onto what Elba, Tung, and Spencer said:

Since trash Trish is such an expert, she shouldn't have done this in the first place -- she should know the rules. In addition, she even made that thread that we must have "written permission" or some other kind of consent when using someone else's work. I find it very hypocritical of her to make that thread, only to break such a rule.

As for "I found it annoying when people who aren't designers were so ready to attack her", does that mean that someone who doesn't necessarily design should not voice their opinions? That's like saying just because some people cannot play any instrument, that they don't have the right to critique any musical piece. sad.gif And I know I'm being redundant here, but I feel like this is not stressed enough: this wouldn't have blown up if she had apologized and given credit in the first place, instead of being so stubborn about it.

Although I forgot to add, thanks for clearing up what you said in the other thread. thumbsup.gif
Melissa
Did she post in the absent thread or something?

As head staff, she really hasn't been doing much modding lately. If all the staff members were as MIA as she is right now, we could be having a rally out there and nobody would notice.

Just sayin'.
Elba
I wouldn't count on Trisj addressing this situation anytime soon (if at all).

Anyway, I think Cristy stands out the most. If anyone is going to be the next admin, it should definitely be her. She's been doing a great job and I see her post everywhere.
karmakiller
QUOTE(superstitious @ May 1 2008, 10:58 AM) *
To image tag or not to image tag! For some reason it is sticking in my mind that if the picture was on a page previous, that it was reasonable to have the image reposted. I’ll need to check around the forum to see why that is in my brain. Having said that, if not everyone is moderating consistently, I can see why that would be confusing and frustrating. Ruth did bring this up Backstage and we’ll get on the same train of thought so that things can be handled more evenly.


Ever since I was on staff we've always come to the agreement that if it's a few pages back (or one, too, I suppose) that it's okay to leave the image tags, so that the person who's reading the post wouldn't have to search through previous pages to find it. I understand why people say that the image tags should go, because when someone quotes the image the URL is still there and is still able to be clicked (if the person quoted it right). With that being said, a lot of people have high speed internet... so it shouldn't take THAT long for an image to load.
tokyo-rose
QUOTE(Elba @ May 2 2008, 08:51 PM) *
Anyway, I think Cristy stands out the most. If anyone is going to be the next admin, it should definitely be her. She's been doing a great job and I see her post everywhere.

Wow. Thanks, Elba. I don't think I'd want to be an admin, though, because there's so much pressure to do things correctly. Being Head Staff is enough. But really I appreciate your comment.

As for the whole image tag thing, it was discussed some Backstage, and I just posted this in the current Members' Photos topic:

QUOTE
Just so we're all clear: Starting from today, all People Staffers will warn members who quote images even though they know better than to do that. Remove the image tags for them, then raise their warning level. We have to be consistent here.

People don't need to click back through the pages to find the photo that's being discussed. Instead, they can click the red arrow in the quoted post, which will take them back to the original post with the photo in it. Simple. That's what the red arrow is there for.
nazimodssuck
Alright Nazis, if you won't play by the rules, I won't.

You have until noon tomorrow to apologize. After that, your fate is sealed.

Delete this, and retribution will be immediate.
fuckwithmeandfindout
Thomas, I don't do PMs. I'd rather speak to the mod staff as a whole.

Now inform me. Which rule does posting pictures of turds break? Far worse has been posted by both myself and others.
ersatz
But he declared war because he was suspended over something he shouldn't have been suspended for (like you just said). So...it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't suspended. So...his posts now being used as punishment is pretty much invalid and stupid.
fuckwithmeandfindout
It's kryogenix, not kyro, you illiterate asscommander.

My posts have been completely relevant. I posted f**king bulls in a rape thread. I posted vomiting in response to a post about vomiting.

And besides, that's completely irrelevant seeing as the f**king warning in my warn log has nothing to do with spammy or pointless posts. My posting ability was suspended because of the offensive nature of my posts, when worse has been posted in the past. What in the f**k.

What a useless mod you are.
fuckwithmeandfindout
Let's go, I know you've read this. It shouldn't take you this long to give me an answer if the reason for my punishment was so obvious.
fuckwithmeandfindout
You papaya groping simpleton. I read your PM, and I've already stated that my problem is that my posting ability shouldn't have been suspended in the first place. THE ONLY REASON I MADE ANOTHER ACCOUNT WAS SO THAT I COULD COMMUNICATE HERE, BUT YOU ANUS MCGILLACUDDYS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT DO YOU?

Why is it so hard to get a decent explanation from you guys?

Unsuitable IMGs is bullshit. I've posted shit before, other people have posted shit before, but all of a sudden, it's not allowed? EVEN CARTOON POOP? What in the f**k.

THE IMAGES WEREN'T EVEN REMOVED UNTIL A WHILE AFTER. WHAT IN THE ASS STEALING SHIT SALAD WAS THAT ABOUT? Are they unsuitable or not? If they are unsuitable, why the f**k would you leave them up for a while longer?

ANSWER: THE MODS HAVE SOME BULLSHIT AGENDA AGAINST ME. I mean, f**k, there's a SPECIAL RULE BACKSTAGE FOR ME? What in the cactus penis camel f**k is that?
Elba
You're right, I don't think it should have been suspended. Who suspended you? Sorry I just skimmed over the posts, so I don't know if you already mentioned it.
ersatz
James suspended him.
fuckwithmeandfindout
March Hare something or other.
Tung
James suspended James. Oh the irony.

ohh and it dat memba staff marchh hairry balls o sumthin..loool.gif
Elba
Can you post the picture again? I don't understand how posting pictures of bulls, vomit and poop warrant a suspension.
DoubleJ
QUOTE(Elba @ May 7 2008, 01:25 AM) *
Can you post the picture again? I don't understand how posting pictures of bulls, vomit and poop warrant a suspension.

Can he not lol! I am partaking in food right now lol.
fuckwithmeandfindout
QUOTE(doublehelix @ May 7 2008, 01:25 AM) *
Becuase the people that have the answers that you're looking for, arn't online right now?


Yeah but the dick piece definitely was earlier, and someone definitely did delete the first post I made complaining about it.

QUOTE
Only a people staff, head staff, or admin can edit your posts in the forums that you have posted them in. I guess none of them were reading your topics as you posted them.


Yes, but the dick piece saw the pictures and thought enough of them to suspend me, yet didn't bother to remove them right then and there?

Something not look right about that to you?
Insurmountable
I think the biggest deal is, that the items that James posts are pretty border line and it sometimes kind of shines through that he tries to put out things that are "border line". I think at the time James (people staff) did the best he could have, he disabled your posting until the staff could come together on a decision on what to do about it all. At the time you were spamming around and posting videos and such.

I think at the time it was the best he could do.

After that, I wasn't online because I got called in to work and being sick and all makes me sick looking at the computer screen.
Tung
QUOTE(Insurmountable @ May 6 2008, 10:38 PM) *
At the time you were spamming around and posting videos and such.

he wasn't spamming. the pictures and videos he posted were relevant of the topic at hand.
fuckwithmeandfindout
HOW IS POSTING BULL SEX IN A RAPE THREAD THAT CONTAINED A VIDEO ON TURTLE SEX SPAM? HOW IS POSTING A DESKTOP WALLPAPER IN THE DESKTOP THREAD SPAM? HOW IS POSTING A PICTURE OF CARTOON CHARACTERS VOMITING SPAM WHEN THE POST I QUOTED TALKED ABOUT BULIMIA?
rnicron
THOMAS! DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL BECAUSE?!
Insurmountable
Sorry, I saw a topic that you made on your own posting videos.

Take this up with James (people staff). Argh, why do you two have to have the same name >_>
DoubleJ
Hopefully, he can respond to it, so that this can be over. I will admit, that I would be upset as well if I was left w/o an explanation. I am sure that James will give an explanation as soon as he is able to.
libertie
Kryo, I am going to unsuspend you. I apologize for the misunderstanding, and I hope that if something like this arises in the future, everything will be perfectly clear and fair. We're going to do our best to stick to the rules both in our own posting and with how we deal with discipline. Your feedback is always appreciated, as is everyone else's, and I am more than willing to accept it if we've done something wrong. I hope that you're able to show us and everyone else that we were wrong in suspending you. I'm willing to see where this goes - again, sorry for the hassle.
kryogenix
I'd like the apology from March Hare, actually.
Tung
lmao
The-March-Hare
If you want an apology, tough. You aren't getting one, and that's the end of the matter from my point of view. I acted completely within my authority.

'I consider the images you have been posting to be unsuitable. As you have been warned for similar instances in the past, I am disabling your posts indefinitely as a preventative measure, pending discussion as to a suitable punishment. Someone will contact you as soon as a decision has been reached.

Thank you.'

That was the PM which I sent to you, and Dani has now replied; a decision having been reached. The matter has been resolved.

Oh, btw, though, for future reference, you might have stood a chance at an apology had you replied other than 'suck my dick, f****t,' and then not proceeded to make a spectacle of yourself, but that is your call.
ersatz
But you can't just do that all the time, haha. If someone does something that really isn't wrong but you just think they shouldn't be doing it, you can't just throw them in jail and say, "Well, whenever the judge gets around to it, he'll determine whether you should be here or not, but until then, this is your punishment." Get a second opinion while you are handing out the punishment if it's the grey area, not after he's been punished for quite some time.
kryogenix
YA KNOW THE NAZIS USED TO THROW PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR BEING JEWS, WARNED PEOPLE AGAINST BEING JEWS IN THE PAST AND THEY ACTED COMPLETELY WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's within your authority to suspend and people and close topics. But that doesn't make it right, officer penis hands.

Acting on precedent? Maybe I've been warned for this stuff before... but guess what. I argued successfully with the mod staff, and they admitted they were wrong to do so. If someone didn't delete the boards, you'd be able to see that in my warn logs. I've posted poop before, other people have posted poop before, and it was completely fine. Suck on that.

YOU WERE WRONG. YOU COULDN'T NAME WHAT RULE THOSE IMAGES BROKE. WAY TO BE A POWERTRIPPING NAZI, NAZI.
misoshiru
seriously? i didn't find the images offensive. a bit shocking perhaps when they loaded. but i don't feel that they violate any part of the rules on cb. so instead, if you really do find it offensive, then just take out the image tags and leave them as links.
Elba
Wow, I just got a whiff of Trish from Jame's post.
misoshiru
u2me2
paperplane
QUOTE(f**kwithmeandfindout @ May 7 2008, 01:09 AM) *
You papaya groping simpleton.

lol

Honestly, James, that post did sound an awful lot like Trish.
PS, when are you going to be home??!?
SirNinja
Tung for admin.
Tung
O_o Wai me?
kryogenix
You guys aren't off the hook yet. You've got until 2:30 EST on Monday.
synatribe
I want to say kudos to highway4355
synatribe
QUOTE(highwayto4355 @ May 10 2008, 08:25 PM) *
*bows* THANK YOU ALL. *wipes tears*.
someone: STFU NO ONE CARES.

*shrinks.*
xD xD alright that was...awkward.

thank you though. :]

lol:]
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