ok the ppl there dunt get it frum having sex all the time...if their great great great grandparents have it, then the probably do too...that happends in US n other places too, just not as much

um... i dont kno wat to say to that...hmm... oh.... um... but... umm... well i guess then we have to save them... i mean wat if everyone in africa died... that country will be empty O_O;; heh well i guess we gotta save them, but at least a tutor we need... to tell them to stop passing aids... i mean some of their grandparents might not have one... so yeah at least teach them a lesson. just asking do they have any tutors in africa to teach them about it? just at least ONE?

of course...all those missionaries and stuff...but have u noticed the size of Africa?

sum of men infected with the aids virus were told that if they have sex with a young girl they would be cured because the blood of a young lady would be fresh.

dam, even dads would rape their own daughters.
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even though it would be a good thing to help people in africa, we're in a really big deficit, and so how can we afford to do that.

there are celebrities that help alot with aids and stuff, sooo....

Let's see... at $10,000 a year... times 600 million people in Africa... means that we'd be spending $6,000,000,000,000 to give every African AIDS drugs... The current budget of the US Government is about $2,000,000,000,000, so we would have to quadruple taxes... would you really want to live in a society with a 188% personal tax rate? For every dollar you earn, you pay $1.88 to buy AIDS drugs for horny African people? How long do you think an economy would last?

Whereas following my plan of sealing off areas with AIDS and letting all the people with AIDS kill each other would only have a negligible cost.

Really?

I never heard of AIDs running in the family (unless your grandparent had AIDs and had your mother, then your mother would have AIDs. If she lived long enough to have you, then you would have AIDs).

But you're right that people don't get it from just having sex. If you have an open injury and you're exposed to blood or some other bodily fluids of a person who has AIDs, then you have a good chance of catching the disease.

AIDS can transfer from woman to child, but not from man to child.

thats what i meant it wuld be passed down to each woman

Yes, it would, providing that she doesnt die of AIDS first (think someone already mentioned it..)

*jumps up and down* I did, I did!

lol funny funny
yeah i think we shuld help ppl here first...but i mean Africa is on this planet n when more Africans come over here, a lot of them may bring the disease...so i dunno

um where did you get that information from?

That does seem a little high...

Time to consult the CIA World Factbook... the only thing that the CIA has done correctly:

United States AIDS Infection Rate: 0.6%
Africa AIDS Infection Rate: I'm not going to calculate the whole thing, but the highest country is Zimbawbwe with 33.4% infection rate.

i should've just edited but anyways.

princess what you last said is ignorant, if you didn't know it isn't Africans who are bringing the dieases over. The Europeans and Spainards brought the diseases over. And just recently the Europeans have brought mad cow and such over.

Ya'll(excluding, fae,emerald, and com) post like everyone in the CONTINENT(please remember continent) is stupid and uneduated. Atleast know your facts and present your sources before you say anything.

This should be named how to deal with the ENTIRE AIDS epidemic.

Here are some facts for everyone.

8.5%(a contrast to the "60%") of Africans have AIDs.
North Africa & the Middle East 0.2-0.4%
South & South East Asia 0.4-0.8%
East Asia & Pacific 0.1-0.1%
Latin America 0.5-0.7 %
Caribbean 1.9-3.1 %
Eastern Europe & Central Asia05-0.9%
Western Europe 0.3-0.3%
North America 0.5-0.7%
Australia & New Zealand- 0.1-0.1%
from Avert.org

It just makes me so mad how people have a twisted views of Africans like we are all barbaric and stupid and have AIDS. I mean shoot i just got it bad, I'm,African,Black,Christian,American, and a female

The Europeans brought over like ... smallpox. Geez, people should get over things from 500 years ago. I'm Chinese and I'm not angry at the Mongols...

how was i ignorant? maybe u misunderstood what i said...im saying i think we need to help the ppl in the US first...i mean its our tax $$ it shuld cover our country, but they still live on the same planet as us...we are all somehow related and should help those in need...and i was just making a point saying that when they if they come to the US, or any other coutry, as our universe gets more diveres, they bring the disease...i never said that the Europeans didnt give it to the Africans and i also never said they were uneducated, tons of them dont even get it by having sex...im not sure what i said that offended u...but sorry? ive agreed with all ur other post thou so...im not even debating u so u dunt need to be offended

Thanks for the facts, and well.. you can't easily changed centuries of cultural views..


The Europeans could've brought AIDS as well, but the probability of African's bringing it would be higher because it originated in Africa; what are you saying with the 500 years thing?


Mm.. they may have originally brought the disease, but once in another country, and once it spreads, its impossible to trace with all the transportation now connecting the world..

Wait.. "I never said that the Europeans didnt give it to the Africans"? it originated in Africa.. Africa had to give it to Europe first..

We do need to help those in need, but onli after helping ourselves..
What good is trying to help them if it will hurt us right now?
Ok, I agree.. some time in the future, we should do more to help, but now is not the time.. with an ongoing war on terror, an enormous budget deficit, continued inflation, how can we spare resources to help a whole continent?

it originated in africa, in the places where the european civilization put it's mark.

first, they built a highway. truckers go through fast.
they brought prostitution. they ply thier trade along the road.

small village in jungle, someone eats some monkey meat, get it. usually, it's isolated. but then he gets a job as a trucker, picks up some whores along the way...

then one of the whores feels sick, goes to a clinic that only uses one needle per day for everyone because they don't have enough money. 100s of people now have it.
then they go to clinics again.

that's how it happens. it's where the old and new cross.

south africa(the country) -- 30% aids rate. look it up, CIA world factbook.

the US is not doing enough, as proved that they denied one billion dollars to the UN at the AIDs confrence, yet still have 89 billion to fund the war in iraq.

WHY should we do anything more than we already have?

Uh... is it Americans fault that people have aids or something?

why shouldn't we help?

your fellow humans are dying, and you will not save them?

Right, we SHOULD help them because it's the moral thing to do...

BUT we have no OBLIGATIONS to do so.

Those are two different things. We don't NEED to help, but we should help becaus lives are important.

Why must there be a set amount that WE need shell out? We have to give 1 billion while other european countries COMBINE give 1 billion.

Is that fair?

I mean, we're one country, and they're.... i think there's more than 10 of them (in the Euro zone, I'll check later).

Definitely. Everyone knows that. http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/98/395/13372_AIDS.html

Hmm, okay I read it... it doesn't tell me, that as an American, what my role is with other people getting Aids.

The author also says that "the good news is that HIV/AIDS are completely curable."

I don't know about you, but I find that funny.

It shows that americans are responsible for developing AIDS as a bioterrorism weapon, and also for hiding reall easy cures.

Okay, may be I need to ask something.

Aids originated where? And the article says that the US created a bioweapon using aids and other diseases. Is this an underground operation? Because as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about that.

And according to the author "the cost [of curing AIDS] is almost nil", then why do we have to cough up 1 billion dollars?

but we spend 80 billion dollars to wage war on a man who didn't bother us,

but we cannot spend 1 billion bollars on a threat that is real? AIDS kills more people a year than saddam has killed in his lifetime.


and i think the presentation of that article was a joke. you know, humor.

the article isn't a joke, but using it as an argument sure is.

That's because it's our money, we should be able to spend our money on what we want, right?


Like I said, we SHOULD, but it shouldn't be an obligation to do so.



Gee, I don't know why I said I thought it was "funny" on my first post to reply, if I didn't think it was.

80 billion , yet half the american people don't even think we should be in iraq.

80 billion, with only partial support of the contry.

it's our money. Mr. bush just wasted it on his old enemy.

It's more than half now that do not want us in Iraq, but that's kind of late...

Still, why must we be obligated to do anything about it? Sure, it's the moral and humanist thing to do, but why MUST we?



Huh? All I'm saying is, why does the US have to shell out 1 billion when the other European countries combine give 1 billion as well? Shouldn't they like give 10 billions or something?



It's whose money?

Morally, everyone should help their fellow person.. but in reality, do they? HELL NO.. if we start expending all these resources on a problem with no foreseeable cure, we're going to be wearing ourselves down, making US more vulnerable..

Look, if you want to send money over there, donate all you want.. but I'm not going to have my tax dollars wasted on an entire continent that I dont believe can benefit from it nearly enough

note that we could spend tax dollars on AIDS research, which would benifit a lot.

I concur, but we should spend it on research to help BUT NOT because someone said we MUST do it for the benefit of another country.

Also note the stubborness of our politicians to care about anything besides "national defense"

they're gonna die.. let them be..
wut we need to do is find a cure.. not wasting money on people who're gonna die unless we find a cure -0-

That is a realli erm.. cruel view.. but I have to agree on practicality

We could do much better finding a cure and preventing others from being afflicted than we could trying to help ones already stricken with the disease

Here's something interesting.

There was an idea that drug users be given new syringes and needles so they could lower the spread of HIV by more than 12,000...

haha. that's crazy.

well, personaly, i usually leave the suffering people in third world countries alone.

but there does need to be something done. you can't just let a contient be wiped out.

and it's spreading in asia like wildfire.

Erm... why would drug users do that? Wouldnt that be admitting that they use drugs? And isnt certain drug use illegal?


Something needs to be done, but we shouldnt have to do it; its everyone's problem, the entire world must band together.. we shall all unite!

yea, the UN was going to do something about it, but they don't have enough money now.

And we do? Pfft.. did you see my post in "Lounge" about the US National Debt?

you also know the cost of the war which we got ourselves into.

We? Pfft.. I dont recall ever supporting the war..

well, we as in a country.

i never supported the war, but we ended up there anyways.

Heh.. we seem to be all to focused on the wrong things lately..

I supported strongly at first because of a silly reason called 'displacement' for 9/11, but I see the folly in that, but I still support US presence there.



I'm still hungry

What's displacement?


*guides her towards nearest buffet line*

i don't think we should have ever gone, but now that we're there we have to stay there.

Why do we have to stay there? Use our money to maintain troops there.. our soldiers are dying out there.. tell me, why must we stay?

Psychology term for taking my anger for 9/11 on something (almost) non-related (as I believe that there is a relationship bw Iraq and terrorists).





*Grabs your hand and took a bite*... HAHAHAH GOTCHA!!!