are we helping ppl in Africa w/ AIDS enough?

Um.. no offense to ppl in Africa.. but seeing as we can hardly help the aids epidemic in the US.. why should we help them? shouldnt we first rid ourselves of it, then them?

yeah i agree but i was in health n the teacher went on n on abt how we dunt do enough to help them

that's because we can't.. our resources are strained enough already with the military and stuff.. we have a $500 billion deficit.. programs are being cut.. we can hardly spare money to aid other countries significantly

the problem in africa about aids is the myths. because they heard that if older guys rape younger girls, aids would be cured. but that's a false myth, and its spreading aids everywhere. i think ppl should hire teachers to go to africa and inform this.

wtf? haha they seriously think that?

they need aids information.

they don't know all the facts.

they have 12 year olds left as the head of the household, working to support their siblings, becuase their parents have died of aids and they will too.

we've tried

convoys have been sent to explain everything, with translators, presentations, brochures, etc

they have their culture and are unwilling to change, even for the better

some of the tribes there customarily bathe in the dead's blood....thus its passed....we proved to them this causes their death,...they dont care


they dont want our help, fine. treat the aids ppl here

survival of the fittest, darwin at work.

When people live by the same laws or traditions for centuries, it takes time and a great deal of persuation to make changes.

If we educate one woman, and she comes home to her husband, who is still ignorant, that education has gone to waste. Or if you educate the woman, but she gets raped.

So, in such a society, not only do we need to educate its people, but we also need to protect the educated, something that is completely out of our jurisdiction as their laws are different than ours.

In addition, Aids is a world wide problem. In my opinion, the US and other countries has helped enough. We cannot help those who do not wish to help themselves.

nope we arent.... they suffer a lot over there and they are really under privlaged.... the ghettos in the US r nothing compared to the slums in African.... one of my friends used to live in South America and he told me how bad the conditions are there....

And why should we them more than we already have?

If we do help them, how do you think we should go about doing it? Give them 20% of our income? Demand their government to follow our rules?

You left out "help" in the first sentence

Yes, good point.. why should we go and impose our culture on countries all over the world?

millions die from aids and the best cure: abstinence

*nod* well.. there is no real "cure".. but yup, I totally agree

First, You can't really "help" an ENTIRE continent. If we were to help people it would be the country with the biggest Aid problem.

Second, People please do not believe everything you see and hear on national geographic or news, because that is never the entire story. Half of what people said above are myths.

Third, America has helped alot. The problem doesn't not lie with in the people the problem lies within the country's government. Becuase I swear to you everytime someone tries to do something to actually help the people some rival group wants to assinate him. Also the the military rules the country no good can happen inside the country.

what I said isnt from national geographic, its from my college education

Okay um let me say it like this have you ever been to an African country? Have you ever been to an African county with an AIDS problem. When you have get back to me.

so you can speak for EVERY part of africa and EVERY tribe right?

I would appreciate it if you could point out these incorrect assumptions, aka myths. I'm not knowledgable about the region, nor do I know much about Aids except how it spreads.


Right you are.



That's what I mean when I said that their laws are different then ours. We cannot do much to help if we do not have the law on our side.

Gosh uninspiredfae (I dunno your real name, sorrie), you always bring up such good points

Why should we even bother trying to aid an entire continent when we can't even save ourselves.. what good will it do if we cripple our resources trying to aid others?

hmm... i dunno. every bomb we've dropped is worth like. 2000 dollars. we've drops tons.

it's my understanding that massive AIDS education programs would be a lot cheaper than bombing iraq.

and, africa isn't all tribes.

take south africa- very modernized, with a 30% AIDS population.

can't we educate them? 1 out of three people have AIDS.

it's where the old world crosses with the new, that probelms occur.

Tribe? You have been watching too much Southpark. They are civilized, they have cars. You know what, just hush =) Thank you in advance.

You know what, I think we are doing enough, because when I went, there were so many clinics for the sick, paid by the States. And the African countries finally got the message that this a serious problem. They are encouraging safe sex, just like we are. I think it may seem like we're not doing a lot, but it takes time. So after a while we will see the results. But the most we can do right here in the US, is to have safe sex, use those condoms damnit! AIDS is some serious stuff, and if it's either safe sex or no sex. (Yeah...I sound like the radio >< but I have a good point) I agree with uninspiredfae, it's not just Africa we need to worry about, it's everywhere.

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You can call me Fae... or whatever else you feel comfortable with. And thanks for the compliment as well as pointing out my missing "help"...


Like we have been trying to say earlier, sadolakced acid, education is USELESS if we do not have the means to protect the educated. What would you like the US to do? Spend money educating the people, then spend more money bribing their government to see things our way?


We've been trying for a long time but nothing much can be done to help without people seeing our help in a positive light. I'm sure people do not like to be told what to do, nor do they like to change their lifestyles because a of a few strangers.


True.

well, i guess there isn't really anything we can do. not many people in the US care about africa.

Ah, but you see, Americans are STILL trying to help even though we know the possible chance of failure, and that proves that many people do care about the well-being of others.

Heck, my friend wants to go to S. Africa for her med. internship to help people over there. I told her that she can do good a lot of good here, in the States, but she said that there are people who need help there and do not receive them as easily as in the US. (Such devotion... she's my inspiration!)

Anyway, not many people seem to care about the world's problems because there are enough problems in their own household.

I don't recall saying i did. And for future reference it is ETHNIC groups not tribes. I am Ibo, one of the major ethnic groups in Nigeria, but there are also the Youroba, Hausa, and other groups.



Exactly alot of people do not understand that you cannot impose i guess i would say your rules and views, when the country is ruled entirely different.




Those were the two I was talking about. The second one not so much as a myth but as only a percentage of situations.

Like big whatever said i don't know every country, and Nigeria doesn't have an AIDS epidemic but i do know stuff about the government and ways it gets in the way of helping their citizens

n/m, i thought you were referring to what I said

yeah, its really sad, 4 year old girls are getting raped because most AID carriers think that having sex with a virgin would cure AIDS...that's so disgusting yet its true.

isnt Bill Gates and Oprah trying to help this? i heard it somewhere on the Oprah show.

We should blockade off Africa, and kill all the people with AIDS to stop the spread of the virus.

Actually, we don't really need to kill them. They're doing a pretty good job of killing themselves at this point.

lol

somehow i dont see the humor in that ....o im sorry maybe because it was rude

Rude and funny are not mutually exclusive. Some of the funniest stuff is the most offensive. www.theonion.com

it is rude but if u know his personality...that's so him it makes me laugh.

and also a viable option for an extreme case

if one day a virus comes like AIDS< and begins spreading rapidly and nthreatens the world with 48-72 hour death after contact, the best option is to exterminate the virus by isolating hosts and letting them die

well maybe u shuld keep that "funny" stuff to urself

He's entitled to his own opinion.. besides it livens up the debate.. makes it less.. serious.. I like it


Isnt that what they did during the Black Death? Isolating them and stuff..

I don't think what he says ever lightens up a debate. ifn you hadn't noticed whenever he says something it causes more strife. And I don't think killing people is funny. You can say all you want about it ebing a joke, but it doesn't change the context it was said in.


That wouldn't stop the spread. Because there are millions of American sufferring with AIDS and would like to travel to countries in Africa and then have sex with someone there spreading the disease

Now, now...if this was happening in your country, I bet you, you'd lash out in a second. Am I right? Thought so. Death is not funny. Okay? Okay. =)

Like I said before, AIDS is everywhere, so can't make about the Africans can ya, `cuz you have to talk about the Europeans who have it, the Asians who have it, the South Americans who have it... everyone. Because it's not just happening in Africa. We have to educate everyone, whether they don't want to know or not. It should be manditory. Because they may seem like they don't care, but next time they have sex, what you taught them will be on their mind, whether they want to admit it or not. Also..like I said before, condoms should be free, because some people like to have sex...alot. And it really goes into their pockets if you add up the expenses of just condoms. So, if they were free they would have one less reason on safe sex. Another is abstinance. People need to learn how to say no, because it's killing them. (>< Sorry guys, It's 11am...I'm not awake yet.)

not to be mean to the people in africa with AIDS but do you know how many people die of cancer every year? and AIDs is too hard to kill, the bacteria that causes AIDs is constantly morphing. but with cancer, so many people die of cancer, and i dont see a cure yet... and dont you think we should concentrate on helping ourselves first. i know for a lot of countries the US is what helps them and in a lot of ways is a savior for them, but with all the people dying in our country, i think we should concentrate on helping ourselves first, i dont think that is very selfish. [and then you have those asses that say the US always butts into everyone elses business] also, to make our jobs a little easier, everyone [as in all races] could think more before they have sex with someone.

Yes, we should definitely help ourselves first, once we eradicate it and fix it within our country, then we can help others..

Oh and you think cancer's easier to cure than AIDS? you can prevent getting AIDS, you cant prevent getting cancer

Do you know anyone from America that travels to Africa just to have sex with someone? Isn't that illegal or something? It should be.

That would be an excessive waste of airfare..

Seriously, you can get a legal prostitute without AIDS for much less money in Nevada.

And you would know this... how?

Haha, looks like you're stuck Minda

lol well seeing as how a plane ride to Africa costs at least a thousand dollars (I think..), that's a pretty big amount.. do prostitutes cost that much Minda?

I didn't say that that was their man focus on going there.

Yeah Emarld the cheapest ticket you'll find to Nigeria is about 1300 and that is if you get the ticket in like January and you aren't going till December. We booked our flight to Nigeria last week for 1717 a person(there is seven of us) and we aren't going until Christmas

Wow.... that is a lot..

nope. About 60 percent of the people in africa have AIDS, about 6 percent of the people in US have AIDS.

But think of all the resources it would take for us to help them.. like has already been previously stated.. because there's no current cure for AIDS, we can onli educate people to prevent the spread, but the education alone isnt enough.. gah.. I can't say it write.. uninspiredfae said it the best:

i aqree with u mini... i think they shud teach those african students to stop raping... so the aids can be over... i think the aids are increasing in africa...so i think about 20 or more tutors shud go there and teach them to stop... and wat AID can do... if they dont accept it...let them die then... i know im being harsh... but dont they want to live?