ArjunaCapulong
Aug 12 2008, 09:51 PM
Ok mods, after the whole screenshot incident, we noticed Rebecca has helped calmed the community down, and that's cool. We'll play nice, no problem, but that doesn't mean we're gonna let anybody slip.
I'm challenging you mods to try to figure out what's supposed to happen with Nate, Thomas, and Dee by yourselves by the end of the week. Then make it happen! If you guys are still clueless by Sunday, I'm just going to have to give you a little help. That's by August 17th, for those of you without a calendar.
Good luck!

P.S. I still need the last 10% of my warning level lowered, please. Thanks!
demolished
Aug 12 2008, 09:52 PM
moderators seem to be a
little nicer today ... and avoiding drama.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 12 2008, 09:53 PM
QUOTE(demolished @ Aug 12 2008, 09:52 PM)

i noticed moderators are a little nicer today ... and avoiding drama.
Two can play that game!
demolished
Aug 12 2008, 09:55 PM
Huh? me as "two"?
hi-C
Aug 12 2008, 09:56 PM
Wait, I missed something. What did Dee do?
Aberisk
Aug 12 2008, 10:13 PM
I think karmakiller also tried her best to calm the issue.
demolished
Aug 12 2008, 10:16 PM
^
she may be doing it(?) but i don't agreed with what she's doing now including the whole voting thing. LOL.
karmakiller
Aug 12 2008, 10:49 PM
What voting thing?
The-March-Hare
Aug 13 2008, 04:28 AM
This will be dealt with in good time, however long it takes, the right decision will be made. No one is going to rush to meet you rdeadlines, however 'nice' you may be about it. People are busy, and this isn't the only decision which needs to be made.
Chill out, we'll sort it.
superstitious
Aug 13 2008, 12:38 PM
You know, I have work deadlines, school deadlines (for both myself and my son), bill deadlines, follow-up physician visits deadlines...
I honestly don't think that setting a specific deadline for staff matters on a forum is particularly fair or nice.
I am truly sorry for what was said and am moreso sorry that it wasn't addressed immediately, since it's clearly in the moderator guidelines. That is something all upper staff, not just Dee should take responsibility for. People should have been reminded that talking in such a manner isn't something that should be done.
Some patience and understanding would be really nice. =)
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 13 2008, 03:51 PM
Sorry guys, no help until Sunday! Wouldn't want to disturb the peace or anything.

It's all you!
superstitious
Aug 13 2008, 03:56 PM
LOL Well ok then.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 13 2008, 04:00 PM
Don't worry, I'm actually confident that you guys will be able to pull this off. Now don't make me feel like I misplaced my faith!
Tung
Aug 14 2008, 04:10 PM
What exactly do you want other staff members to do with Nate, Thomas, and Dee?

If anything they were just expressing their opinions just like everyone else.
Of course they may have went about things the wrong way, but that shouldn't mean they deserve to be punished.
I honestly think, the situation this past week, is a good learning experience for both us and the Mods. Therefore we can learn from past experiences, and correct our mistakes.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 14 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE(Tungster @ Aug 14 2008, 04:10 PM)

What exactly do you want other staff members to do with Nate, Thomas, and Dee?

Can't say a word until Sunday.

Not even a hint!
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 15 2008, 11:34 PM
Oh, and mods... Please try not to do anything incredibly stupid between now and Sunday.

I like the peace the way it is.
KryMeARiver
Aug 16 2008, 12:11 AM
I'm throwing my chips in the bucket here too. I'm gonna go on vacation, if conditions haven't improved by then, there will be consequences.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 12:39 AM
Time's up.
Lariat
Aug 17 2008, 12:41 AM

So what happens now?
Tung
Aug 17 2008, 12:42 AM
was the deadline eastern time or pacific.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 12:42 AM
lol, I thought I put EST, but I see I didn't. So I guess I'll wait.
Tung
Aug 17 2008, 01:47 AM
15 minutes...tick tockk....

ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 01:51 AM
I can't really do anything until it's Sunday in
Eniwetok too. Where ever that is. But apparently they got the latest time zone or something like that.
Lariat
Aug 17 2008, 01:58 AM
So GMT-12 hours?
libertie
Aug 17 2008, 01:59 AM
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Aug 17 2008, 01:51 AM)

I can't really do anything until it's Sunday in
Eniwetok too. Where ever that is. But apparently they got the latest time zone or something like that.
lol, how many CB members live there?
Lariat
Aug 17 2008, 02:00 AM
Probably none

Latest time zone is the international date line, from the U.S. Probably the most west point of it.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 02:01 AM
QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 17 2008, 01:58 AM)

So GMT-12 hours?
Yeah, something like that.
QUOTE(libertie @ Aug 17 2008, 01:59 AM)

lol, how many CB members live there?
lol, I didn't even know that place existed.
Lariat
Aug 17 2008, 02:04 AM
Woo, 5 hours till sunday for the Eniwetokans :)
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 02:04 AM
Five hours? Meh, I'll probably be asleep by then.
technicolour
Aug 17 2008, 02:06 AM
That sounds like some place off of Star Wars or something.
5 more hours?!
doiink
Aug 17 2008, 04:31 AM
LOL WHAT IS THIS
k arjuna you know I have love for you and I also know you have the intelligence to not take what I have to say PERSONALLY. got it? cool!

as James/Rebs have stated earlier in this thread, (btw staff don't hate on my bringing this back up and the fact that it may reignite some fires but my inner self maintains that I must )
DEADLINES = :(hey hey, we're all here on a volunteer basis, trying to help this place out whether or not yall agree with what we do. yes we screw up, we're only humans. *gasp. when the shit hits the fan, it hits the fan. we'll clean it up in due time, no worries k? so please, deadlining us aint the coolest way to go about this. we do our best, k? :D
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 04:51 AM
I missed you, Betty.
Anyway, I'm going out for the day, so do try not to make your retiribution TOO terrible or anything, because I wouldn't want to miss a giggle.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 12:42 PM
Tung
Aug 17 2008, 03:53 PM
So what's going to happen now..
LoveToMySilas
Aug 17 2008, 03:58 PM
Yeah...I got nothing.
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 06:57 PM
Well, for starters, absolutely nothing is going to happen to Thomas or Dee because they used their judgement, however unpopular their decisions may have been. They didn't break rules.
As far as Nate goes, for one thing, Nate himself as well as two of our Admins are currently on reduced activity, and therefore discussion has slowed somewhat. Furthermore, we lack the benefit of precedent on this, so we're working from scratch. This hasn't been forgotten about, but setting meaningless deadlines isn't going to speed up (nor will it slow down) any decisions being made.
What is more, understand that this isn't the only thing under discussion after the whole incident, let alone overall, so some leeway at a time when not everyone is here to give input every 15 minutes would be appreciated and appropriate.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:19 PM
Looks like you mods weren't able to figure things out by the end of
Saturday, so I guess I'll try to help you guys out a little bit.
Nate, Thomas, and Dee all need to be demoted one level down. That means Nate off staff, Thomas back to Design Staff, and Dee to Head Staff. The reason for this is because they're not fit for their current positions.
Easy Mode: Nate. It's been about a week, and you guys still can't figure out what to do with him. Sad. Talking trash Backstage and member bashing.
Intermediate Mode: Thomas.
LEGENDARY Mode: Dee.
Ok, which game do you mods want to play first? Choose one at a time, or else this thread could get confusing real fast. We'll take it one at a time, yeah?
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:24 PM
Yeah. Dee and Thomas aren't going to be punished, and if you'd read my post in your OTHER thread about this same issue, then you would know that Nate is still being discussed.
Your input is welcome, that being the purpose of this forum, but there is precisely zero need for a brand new thread, and I'm merging this into your original Deadline thread. Feel free to edit the title of that if you so wish.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:24 PM
Don't merge it
Wow you suck
The two threads had different topics and purposes. It's not that hard to figure out. You mods are so quick to move things around without asking what's going on. And yet so slow at doing more important things.
Split the topic, please.
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:27 PM
Yeah. There was no need for a new thread on what is essenitally the same issue. It was either merge them, or close the other. I figured this was less likely to provoke melodrama.
*edit*
I consider you delivering on what you promised in your original thread to be appropriate for being followed up in that same thread.
And yeah, easy decisions like moving things get made and acted on more quickly than more complex ones which require consultation. That's not exacltly a shocker, is it?
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:28 PM
No, the purpose of the deadline thread was to let you mods know about your deadline. The purpose of the other thread was to actually talk about Nate, Thomas, and Dee. C'mon, is it really going to hurt you that bad to keep two threads apart?
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:31 PM
Well, that's similar enough to my mind to merit being merged. If you want real discussion on the issue, then it will happen here as much as it would anywhere else.
Although frankly, it could perfectly easily have been done in Mod Performance.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:32 PM
Dang, didn't even give it a chance. Meh, whatever.
Ok, so who do you want to talk about first?
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:36 PM
Give what a chance? The thread? Or the topic? I don't understand what exactly I'm supposed to have quashed here, but whatever.
I've given my position on Thomas and Dee, and they aren't going to be demoted. If we bumped a mod down a level everytime someone disagreed with something they did, however legitimate the concern may have been, we'd never keep a staff member more than a week, and even that would be a stretch.
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:37 PM
One at a time. Don't get too excited now.
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:39 PM
Well, the two are getting the exact same treatment, i.e. nothing is going to happen to them, so we might as well clear the easy parts out of the way. Four posts ago you accused the staff of being slow at the important things, so I would have assumed you'd appreciate the expedience, and the issue being addressed promptly and concisely?
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:40 PM
Freakin' a James, just choose one person to talk about. It's not that hard.
Tung
Aug 17 2008, 07:41 PM
lol the girl in my sig is so hawt no joke
ArjunaCapulong
Aug 17 2008, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Tungster @ Aug 17 2008, 07:41 PM)

lol the girl in my sig is so hawt no joke

lol forget it. Since James apparently can't choose one person at a time, I'm letting a different mod get first dibs.
The-March-Hare
Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM
Why?
The discussion is the same for Thomas and Dee, so why faff around having it twice? Don't you think that's the kind of repetition that slows down quick, incisive decison making? We aren't punishing Thomas for making an unpopular decision. We aren't punishing Dee for making an unpopular decision.
There. I addressed them one at a time, and the only difference it made was an extra second out of my life.
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